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Victory for American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG - Probation Continues
www.JudicialWatch.org ^ | ALOHA RONNIE, Witness

Posted on 10/19/2001 4:52:04 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE

.."No matter what happens, I did nothing wrong".. stated American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG just as his Court Hearing before Federal Judge MANUEL "Loose Cannon" REAL was due to commence 1/2 hour late in Los Angeles Federal Courthouse this morning.

...JOHNNY CHUNG had been brought to Court over his 3,000 hrs CHINA-GATE Probation Sentence brought by this Judge, that he has completed over 2,000 hrs of in 2 years, because his new Probation Supervising CAL-TRANS was refusing to assign him the Work that would finish his Probation Sentence. Confusing...? Not where CHINA-GATE and the Democrats in California State Government are concerned.

...Enter Judicial Watch's Judge Monitoring Program Manager and Former Los Angeles Prosecutor STERLING "ERNIE" NORRIS who filed to become JOHNNY's Associate Attorney to literally sit alongside his present Democrat FootSoldier Attorney BRIAN SUN..at JOHNNY's request.

...An understanding came during this Hearing between Att. SUN and the Prosecuting Asst. U.S. Attorney O'BRIEN, yes he of .."Just Call 911, Johnny".. & CHINA-GATE's KingPin JAMES RIADY .."Get out of Jail Free".. Hearing in March of 2001.

...In this understanding JOHNNY was taking responsibility for his part in a "Communications Breakdown" between he and CAL-TRANS. To which Judge REAL stated .."Things will be done my way, not JOHNNY CHUNG's way...!"

...In the end he ordered the Probation Dept to STOP treating Probationer JOHNNY CHUNG in any "Special Way" as it has been doing thru supervising CAL-TRANS' assigning a third party to keep track of JOHNNY's Probrationary hours ..because CAL-TRANS didn't want to. This had put JOHNNY CHUNG in the Middle ...probably by design ..as it stopped him from being assigned the Community Service Work he needed to do in order to finish his 3,000 hrs Probation ..earning him a trip to Los Angeles Federal Court. A Probation which is 7.5 times Federal Probation Guidlines as assigned by Judge REAL.

...A Good Crowd of 30 or 40 people was on hand in Court of JOHNNY's Supporters from his Church -&- YMCA he did Community Service in, his Family, Friends, Talk Radio Listeners -&- Freepers 'goldilucky' -&- 'ALOHA RONNIE' ...to support his and Judicial Watch's Fight for CHUNG's continued Freedom.

...What kind of -Fight for Freedom- was it...?

...Judge REAL's parting shot at JOHNNY CHUNG while granting a continuation of his .."Same Probation as before"..

.."You can't continue doing what you're doing or you are going to Jail, JOHNNY CHUNG"... that's how close.

American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG, in an Era of American Heroes, remains a Free Man this Day.


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...The careful attention to the Case of American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG by Judicial Watch and his supporters in Court and not ...was felt this day by Judge MANUEL REAL. Good decision. Great Prayer-Making for JOHNNY.

...Thanks to all who contributed to this Victory today.

GOD SPEED JOHNNY CHUNG - GO Judicial Watch GO

1 posted on 10/19/2001 4:52:05 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: johnny chung
We're with you johnny!
2 posted on 10/19/2001 4:53:32 PM PDT by b4its2late
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; amom; Snow Bunny; ChaseR; Yellow Rose of Texas; Alamo-Girl
good news ping
3 posted on 10/19/2001 5:03:28 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I'll gladly bump this, RONNIE!
4 posted on 10/19/2001 5:25:18 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Is Chung really a hero or just the lesser of many Clinton evils? If Judicial Watch is vouching for his character, I think I already know the answer.
5 posted on 10/19/2001 5:34:43 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Good job, justice will be done in the end. Stay the course, Johnny, remember God is with you.
6 posted on 10/19/2001 5:35:21 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: VA Advogado
Is Chung really a hero or just the lesser of many Clinton evils?

That is a fair question. Chung wrote a lot of columns for WorldNetDaily. He made some errors in giving donations to the Clintons for favors, but when he was caught he admitted the errors and was severely hounded by the Clintonistas even to the point of death threats. However, he refused to knuckle under and took the fall for it.

He is indeed a hero in my book. He could have denied everything and been a wealthy free man.

7 posted on 10/19/2001 5:41:03 PM PDT by OK
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To: miss print; kristinn; Registered; RMDupree; reformjoy; goldilucky; FallGuy; Carl/NewsMax...
...GO Judicial Watch GO...
8 posted on 10/19/2001 5:50:15 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; backhoe; KLT; goldilucky; Snow Bunny; LarryLied; GretchenEE; Kathleen; christine11
"You can't continue doing what you're doing or you are going to Jail, JOHNNY CHUNG"...

Ron, tell me what you really see in this statement.

[GO JUDICIAL WATCH GO]

9 posted on 10/19/2001 5:59:14 PM PDT by ChaseR
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
BUMP !!!! For Johnny Chung
10 posted on 10/19/2001 6:00:25 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: b4its2late
BUMP for Johnny Chung
11 posted on 10/19/2001 6:00:58 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: OK
Fair enough. I just have a little harder time hoisting up those who wait to their deathbed before being saved.
12 posted on 10/19/2001 6:01:24 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: backhoe
BUMP for Johnny Chung
13 posted on 10/19/2001 6:01:35 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Bump for Johnny Chung
14 posted on 10/19/2001 6:02:07 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny
Do you agree with OK? Or do you have different reasons for supporting Chung?
15 posted on 10/19/2001 6:02:44 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: The Right Stuff
Bump for Johnny Chung
16 posted on 10/19/2001 6:02:55 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny
Hey, SB, good job on the USO thread!
17 posted on 10/19/2001 6:13:26 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: VA Advogado
OK here is what I believe. Johnny Chung saw what criminals Bill and Hillary are and that THEY were NOT going to stand by him, they were going to let him take the fall just as so many others have all the way back to their Ark. days.

DEAD people
taking the 5th
Leaving the country
Going to jail

THIS is what surrounds Bill and Hillary. The Clintons are communists and traitors to everything America stands for. They BOTH should be EXECUTED for treason with Chinagate!!!!!

IF Johnny Chung and he IS ! Willing to tell what he knows and come clean, then I respect him for seeing what he did was wrong and wanted to make it right to help America and the investigation.

The Clintons are evil in its purest form. They have NO redeeming qualities at all .They use their friends, the law and threats, to get into power, stay in power ......AND THIS SHOULD NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.

Yes, I do pray for Johnny Chung, for strength to do the right thing, to not let threats etc. stop him. To be supportive of his willingness to tell the truth.

I hope I answered your question.

18 posted on 10/19/2001 6:18:43 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Bump for Judicial Watch!

Loose lips sink ships: "National Perfidy Radio" sells US out

The above site is what I was talking about earlier today with you about.

19 posted on 10/19/2001 6:27:01 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: ChaseR
I see alot in that statement. Those probation officers were trying to mess with Johnny Chung. He was right to get those records sent to his attorney. I wouldn't trust those probation officers one damn bit.
20 posted on 10/19/2001 6:29:15 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: goldilucky; ALOHA RONNIE; johnny chung
A bump for patriot Johnny Chung!

What, exactly, was it Johnny's been doing the angered the Judge enough to threaten jail time? (I can't follow Ronnie's prose style too well.))

21 posted on 10/19/2001 6:34:18 PM PDT by TPartyType
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To: The Right Stuff
Thank you so much. That means a lot to me for you to say that.

I live in Las Vegas and after I told Nellis Air Force base about it and also the Marine club here, they have been lurking and loving it. There are some other bases too lurking. I can post this in this thread about it , because I do not want to get them in trouble. Some of their wives are going to join FR so they can post too.

Thanks again so much.

22 posted on 10/19/2001 6:46:52 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: johnny chung
...GOD SPEED JOHNNY CHUNG...

...4-More ...see my Bookmarked Pre-Hearing F/R Thread titled:

'ALERT: ChinaGage Fall Guy JOHNNY CHUNG's Probation at Risk/Oct. 19th L.A. Hearing'

23 posted on 10/19/2001 6:48:25 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: TPartyType
Johnny Chung wanted to have the records of his time doing community service sent to his attorneys. The probation officers considered him a "pest" for his "demands" and were making it difficult to send any information to his attorney. Somehow, this became a problem for him as he was a "problem" for them and it wound up in court. Chung has honored his obligated duty to perform community service. The probation officers should be seriously disciplined or fired. Otherwise they can expect to be sued!
24 posted on 10/19/2001 6:58:45 PM PDT by goldilucky
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To: goldilucky
The Gestapo hates to see a man serve his obligations and get his freedom.
25 posted on 10/19/2001 7:15:33 PM PDT by meenie
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To: VA Advogado
I am not thrilled with anyone that is not a man of honor.

But I look at Johnny Chung as a man that is finally trying to do the right thing.Does that make him a man of honor..??????? NO WAY ! Johnny Chung can never be a man of honor.

BUT HE CAN TRY TO CHANGE HIS LIFE AROUND AND FINALLY BE AN HONEST MAN AND HELP CLEAN UP THE MESS HE WAS A PART OF. AND HE IS DOING THAT. My Heroes are ONLY Veterans and those in the military in America.

26 posted on 10/19/2001 7:24:31 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: goldilucky
NEVER FORGET

March 19, 2001 = Remember how Asst. U.S. Attorney O'BRIEN was just all over Defense Attorney ..ABBE LOWELL.. trying their darnest to get China-Gate Kingpin ..JAMES RIADY.. out of serving any jail time at all for his selling out our Country on behalf of the CLINTONS/Communist Chinese Army...?

October 19, 2001 = Remember how Asst. U.S. Attorney O'BRIEN was trying his darnest to put American Hero JOHNNY CHUNG -Into- Jail ...were it not for Judicial Watch's STERLING "Ernie" NORRIS...?

NEVER FORGET

27 posted on 10/19/2001 7:32:01 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; miss print; goldilucky
I'm hoping JW's critics are happy that Johnny Chung finally got some fairness, and will give a little credit where credit is due!

I mean...if they're BIG enough, they will...

28 posted on 10/19/2001 7:44:24 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria; goldilucky; reformjoy; Snow Bunny; FallGuy; miss print; kristinn; abigail2...
...It should be pretty interesting to hear what JUDICIAL WATCH itself has to say about JOHNNY CHUNG's Victory today in Court during it's National Talk Radio Show tomorrow on.. www.JudicialWatch.org ..titled:

..'The JUDICIAL WATCH Report'..

29 posted on 10/19/2001 8:33:30 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Mercuria
I will bet they don't. I was shocked when I saw such hate for JW.
30 posted on 10/19/2001 9:01:43 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I am so proud of Johnny Chung ands VERY PROUD of you ALOHA RONNIE.

Thank you for all this information.

31 posted on 10/19/2001 9:03:04 PM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: VA Advogado
Is Chung really a hero or just the lesser of many Clinton evils?

It's actually quite easy to determine which side the players are/were on in the impeachment wars.

The ones who are were on the "right" side (i.e. Clinton spearcatchers) get book deals and/or get-out-of-jail free cards.

The ones on the "wrong" side get prosecuted and/or bankrupted by lawsuits.

Considering that Chung nearly got nailed this week, I would say that he was on the "wrong" side. The "tokens in the meter" comment didn't sit well with Her Heinous. ;-)

32 posted on 10/19/2001 9:14:02 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; johnny chung; Judicial Watch
Thanks for the good news this evening, RONNIE. ALOHA!

Hang in there, Johnny Chung.

GO Judicial Watch GO!!

33 posted on 10/19/2001 9:25:32 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: an amused spectator
The ones on the "wrong" side get prosecuted and/or bankrupted by lawsuits.

I understand this rule of thumb. Works for me in most cases except three off the top of my head - Susan McDougal, Web Hubble and of course, Hillary's guy Vince Foster.

34 posted on 10/19/2001 10:10:01 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Snow Bunny
I hope I answered your question.

Yep. That made sense. I don't really have a dog in this fight although I tend to lean a little more heavy on anyone that was ever a Clinton enabler even if they have eventually come clean. As for Judicial Watch, well, I'll leave that for another thread. Even Chung has contributed some postitive things towards exposing Clinton.

35 posted on 10/19/2001 10:12:44 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; NewDestiny
Thanks Ronnie.
36 posted on 10/19/2001 10:57:51 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: an amused spectator; Snow Bunny; Fred Mertz; abigail2; Mercuria; goldilucky; reformjoy...
...It was worth every thing just to see the Smiles on the Faces of the JOHNNY CHUNG Family walking out of Federal Court Friday morning.

...Been like walking on a cloud ever since....

All for the LOVE of JUSTICE

37 posted on 10/20/2001 12:20:51 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
You are right ALOHA RONNIE!

True Justice is SWEET ! I wish it happened more often but we just have to keep fighting for it.

Thanks so much for your NEVER Forgetting and NEVER giving up.I am so very proud of you and honored to know you.

38 posted on 10/20/2001 1:34:49 AM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: VA Advogado; ALOHA RONNIE; goldilucky; reformjoy; Snow Bunny; FallGuy; Landru; ChaseR; onyx...
Johnny Chung is really a hero. Of the 127 people who were called before Congress to testify about illegal campaign contributions on behalf of the Clintonistas, Johnny is THE ONLY ONE who did not: (1) flee the country; or (2) take the 5th.

Johnny and his family had been under FBI protection when his life was threatened. The former U.S. Attorney in L.A., Mike McCaul, thought Johnny was a hero because Johnny volunteered to help catch some Chicoms. At the last minute, a "higher up" called off the plan. All Johnny wanted to do was right the wrongs he had committed because he loves America.

My husband, a fine, brilliant and ethical man, has been working for almost a year with Johnny Chung and Judicial Watch's Ernie Norris. If Hubby didn't think Johnny was on the up-and-up, he wouldn't have anything to do with him or Judicial Watch.

Please do not make any derogatory remarks about Judicial Watch, singularly or collectively, or those who tirelessly volunteer their valuable time on behalf of Judicial Watch and/or its clients. I've spent more than a few evenings and weekends helping Hubby extract Johnny from his woes - all brought on him by a vindictive Dem.-controlled Probation Dept.

There are others here at FR who can tell you that Johnny worked tirelessly on behalf of the Long Beach Patriots when the Navy Base was about to be turned over to the Chicoms (read COSCO). Johnny is an American hero and a Patriot in every sense of the word. NEVER FORGET!!

39 posted on 10/20/2001 7:44:47 AM PDT by miss print
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To: miss print
Well, the Communist Chinese ended up getting the Navy base, didn't they? And the traitors who gave it to them on a silver platter are still out there, NOT behind bars, earning hundreds of thousands of dollars for speaking engagements and walking the halls of the U.S. Seante. After all, the Great Perpetrator tried to get Osama Bin Laden, didn't he? But he only missed him by an hour, didn't he?
40 posted on 10/20/2001 8:09:13 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: miss print; johnny chung; Snow Bunny; kristinn; ChaseR; Landru; goldilucky; reformjoy; Republic...
NEVER FORGET

...I have been so very blessed to have been chosen to be a mere Witness to the True Heroism of Others from the -Freedom Fighters- at the Battle of IA DRANG-1965 to our own Homefront -Freedom Fighters- against the Enemy that is now Within.

...The War has indeed Come Home and so blessed am I.

...Thank you JOHNNY CHUNG, Family -&- JUDICIAL WATCH ...American Heroes all ...in a -Time for Heroes....as

...GOD smiles down on you all ...BROADLY.

NEVER FORGET

41 posted on 10/20/2001 8:12:37 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: miss print
"Johnny Chung is really a hero. Of the 127 people who were called before Congress to testify about illegal campaign contributions on behalf of the Clintonistas, Johnny is THE ONLY ONE who did not: (1) flee the country; or (2) take the 5th.

You got that straight, MissP; and for those two reasons alone?
...& if JohnnyC never did another thing?

There should have a bronze bust of this man erected across the street & facing the *planned* Sink Emporer Library in Little Rock, AR.

You're damned right...

42 posted on 10/20/2001 8:39:55 AM PDT by Landru
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"...Thank you JOHNNY CHUNG, Family -&- JUDICIAL WATCH...American Heroes all...in a -Time for Heroes..."

And Sarge, I respectfully ask you not forget mentioning MissP's hub in your salute.

43 posted on 10/20/2001 8:43:28 AM PDT by Landru
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To: goldilucky; TPartyType
Johnny Chung wanted to have the records of his time doing community service sent to his attorneys. The probation officers considered him a "pest" for his "demands" and were making it difficult to send any information to his attorney. Somehow, this became a problem for him as he was a "problem" for them and it wound up in court. Chung has honored his obligated duty to perform community service. The probation officers should be seriously disciplined or fired.

A few minor corrections from someone who worked close to Johnny (my husband). When Johnny was originally sentenced back in Dec. 1998, Judge Real put Johnny on 5 years probation and gave him 3,000 hours of community service to perform AT THE DIRECTION OF THE PROBATION DEPT. The probation officers (Dems.) decided to make him do the 3,000 hours in 3 years - about 20 hours per week. His initial place of community service was at his church and everything went well UNTIL Oct. 1999 when he made the keynote speech at Judicial Watch's 5th anniversary conference in Pasadena, CA. Suddenly, ACCORDING TO THE PROBATION OFFICERS, his church was no place to perform community service AND they increased his community-service hours from 20 to 25/week! Then he was placed at the YMCA, along with other probationers. Sometime while he was at the Y, the other probationers were taken away BY THE PROBATION DEPT. and only Johnny and his supervisor were doing the work of the formerly 10 - 12 men! - Johnny lost 40 lbs. during this time. The probation officers, still not satisfied that Johnny had been broken, took him away from the Y and let him sit for 3 months without giving him an assignment. After a 3-month lay-off, the probation dept. finally put him on CalTrans. This is highly unusual as CalTrans is usually a place for state/county probationers - not FEDERAL probationers! In addition, CalTrans was required BY THE PROBATION DEPT. to perform certain reporting requirements for Johnny that CalTrans didn't have to do for anyone else!

In January, 2001, Johnny told the Probation Dept. that his father had died and that his wife would have to attend to the funeral arrangements, etc. in Canada, as he was not allowed to go out of county, let alone out of country. He told them that he was going to have to baby-sit his two little kids while she was gone and he might not be able to perform the 100 hours for Feb. 2001. During Feb., there were 5 days of rain when no one worked on CalTrans, in addition to the fact that his kids were very sick and he couldn't leave them. It should be noted that Johnny not only worked the hours imposed on him by the Probation Dept., he worked MORE THAN the hours they required. For 22 months, he was ahead of the game. This, however, didn't deter the Probation Dept. from claiming that he didn't work the hours required in Feb. (82 out of 100?) and this is what they hung their hat on when they claimed that he had violated probation! A specious claim and disingenuous at best!

In addition, the Probation Dept. claimed that Johnny hadn't REALLY worked the hours that the Y certified and tried to get the judge to yank some 623 hours! Johnny gave Judge Real a letter signed by the top execs. of the Y who said how Johnny had served "with a servant's humble heart" and they would gladly welcome him back. Judge Real told the Probation officers, in March, 2001, to go back to the Y and get the matter cleared up. The probation dept. waited till about 8-27 (5 months later) before notifying Johnny's atty (Brian Sun - who didn't show Johnny the letter) that the 623 hours had been "disallowed".

When Johnny got up court yesterday, the judge bellowed at Johnny because Johnny hadn't performed his community service hours. How could Johnny when the PD hadn't given him any for over 8 months?! What was Johnny supposed to do? Each month, when he wrote his progress report, he noted in the margin that he was still waiting for an assignment to do community service hours. Yes, the judge was right in saying that Johnny PER THE PROBATION DEPT. (the judge's eyes and ears) hadn't served his community-service hours but it wasn't Johnny's fault!

Ernie Norris of Judicial Watch wasn't going to let the shenanigans of the PD slide on this. He brilliantly-issued subpoenas on all of Johnny's past/present probation officers and their supervisors, the workers from "volunteer center" though which Johnny had been placed, the people at the CalTrans and the Y. (It should be further noted that the Probation Dept. had issued subpoenas on these same people, but not themselves.) My husband volunteered to serve all these people - about 14 - and did. It was amazing what the people at CalTrans told him about Johnny BASED ON WHAT DIS-INFO. THEY HAD BEEN GIVEN BY THE PROBATION DEPT. When Hubby showed in court yesterday in a 3-piece suit instead of a polo shirt and trousers, there double-takes, whispers and "deals" going on in the courtroom.

Before Johnny went into court, however, he did what he had done the last time he appeared before Judge Real - he gave my husband his cell-phone, wallet and keys and asked him to take care of his family. My husband told Johnny that he wasn't going to jail but took the items to make him feel better.

I'm told that the courtroom was packed. According to Ernie Norris, when the Judge walked into his court and saw all those people, he probably thought "Whoa! What's going on here?" Hubby said, KIDDINGLY, that Judge Real probably had a tee-off at 12 and wanted to get the heck out of there. But, with all those witnesses, however, it could have gone on for 2 - 3 days - at least ruining his tee-off and even any possible dinner engagement that evening!

Let's be fair. Judge Real yelled at Johnny because the probation dept. had lied to him about Johnny's hours. Sure, Johnny didn't serve community-service hours BECAUSE THEY DELIBERATELY DIDN'T GIVE HIM ANY ASSIGNMENT! The judge had been told OR ASSUMED that Johnny wanted special treatment. Johnny didn't want special treatment - he wanted equal treatment - the same as any other probationer could expect. Because the PD put so many rules and restrictions on his time, he tried: (1) to please everyone; (2) to keep track of his own time records to make sure that he was credited with all the hours he worked; and (3) he kept asking questions to ensure that he was doing everything correctly. Because of this, he was deemed to be a "pest." Since when, I ask you, is being a "pest" a violation of probation? Sheesh, there are guys out there breaking probation by taking off to Mexico for months or robbing banks or dealing in illegal weapons and Johnny is getting "dinged" for being a "pest?" This now makes one wonder seriously about the competence of the people who work in the probation dept. - they don't have anything better to do with their time than create schemes to deny Johnny his hours and then put him in jail?

Anyway, the Judge (as Hubby told Johnny beforehand) had not alternative except to say that Johnny had violated his probation. However, Judge Real, once he understood that the probation dept. had done these things to Johnny, ruled that his orginal order stand (5 years probation and 3,000 hrs community service) and that Johnny was to be treated as all other probationers were treated - equally. Then Judge Real hauled the probation officers lying hides into his chambers.

Johnny, who has a slight hearing impairment, didn't know right away that he was still a free man! Outside the court, my husband - with people gathered 'round - made a little ceremony of handing Johnny's cell-phone, wallet and keys back to him. Johnny's older daughter was the one most visibly affected and cried tears of relief. Johnny's dear mother (who now has cancer) came up and hugged my husband and thanked him for helping Johnny.

I wish I could have been in court with friends, FReepers and others who showed up on Johnny's behalf. Work prevented me from doing same and so I waited by the phone to get my report.

May God richly bless all those who supported Johnny and prayed for him. Continue to keep him and his family in your prayers, please.

As for Johnny's future dealings with the Probation Dept., Ernie Norris of Judicial Watch will be going with Johnny to ensure that everything will be "according to Hoyle" and that Johnny gets equal treatment.

miss print

44 posted on 10/20/2001 9:09:58 AM PDT by miss print
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To: Landru
Thank you, Landru. miss print
45 posted on 10/20/2001 9:11:34 AM PDT by miss print
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To: miss print
Johnny Chung is really a hero. Of the 127 people who were called before Congress to testify about illegal campaign contributions on behalf of the Clintonistas, Johnny is THE ONLY ONE who did not: (1) flee the country; or (2) take the 5th.

Ok, fair enough. But how would you distingush Johnny from say a guy like John Dean, who was part of a conspiracy and instead of doing a G. Gordon Liddy and taking his licks with a serious prison sentence, sang like a canary?

46 posted on 10/20/2001 9:26:41 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: miss print
One last thing. In regards to the hours Johnny has already performed at his church, the Y, and CalTrans, the Judge didn't rule one way or the other about them. We are praying that they will stand so that Johnny can finish the less than 1,000 hours remaining of his community service and get back to taking care of his family.

Speaking of his family - one other last thing. The Probation Dept. told Johnny earlier this year that he couldn't publish his book (already written) because "it would make a lot of people nervous." (INTERESTING!! I wonder whom they had in mind when they gave Johnny this directive!) Johnny scrapped the book (again, trying to please everyone). If the book had been published, Johnny could have paid off his obligations and still had money to take care of his family. Instead of helping Johnny, the Probation Dept. put road-blocks in every step of his way. With a repenant and humble heart, Johnny never defied them but tried only to please them. (Then the PD was upset with Johnny because they didn't like the fact that he agreed with them - cooperated fully - all the time!)

Johnny, you da man!!

47 posted on 10/20/2001 9:35:57 AM PDT by miss print
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To: VA Advogado; ALOHA RONNIE
John Dean was part of a conspiracy - Johnny Chung wasn't.

It doesn't say so in your link re John Dean but does "plea bargain" or "plea agreement" say anything to you?

Also, anyone who works for any politico in DC (or home office) is supposed to, when the time calls for it, "fall on the sword" as G. Gordon Liddy did. ("Mea culpa, mea culpa maxima.) Otherwise, you never get hired by any other politico in DC. The politicos in DC expect absolute loyalty from ALL their staffers.

The most recent example of falling on the sword is Gary Condidit's chief of staff Mike Lynch. Yeah, right, it was Lynch's own doing to call the attorney in San Mateo Co. and have the attorney's PI write up an affidavit for Anne Marie Smith to sign. But... that's another thread. NEVER FORGET

48 posted on 10/20/2001 9:51:55 AM PDT by miss print
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To: VA Advogado
I just have a little harder time hoisting up those who wait to their deathbed before being saved.

But Johnny Chung wasn't on his deathbed, was he? In fact, by turning state's evidence he definitely put his own life at risk. You are aware of the FBI stopping an attempt to assignate him, aren't you? Furthermore, if you want to know how brave Johnny Chung was, just consider this. There is credible evidence to suggest that Ron Brown, Clinton's secretary of Commerce, was murdered ... just days after HE told Clinton (according to sworn testimony) that he was going to turn state's evidence in matters related to Chinagate and campaign finance illegalities by the DNC and Clinton. Chung knew this when he testified.

49 posted on 10/20/2001 10:11:16 AM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: BeAChooser
But Johnny Chung wasn't on his deathbed, was he?

He was on his legal deathbed. Going to go to prison for a long time. That was the analogy I was making.

There is credible evidence to suggest that Ron Brown, Clinton's secretary of Commerce, was murdered ... just days after HE told Clinton (according to sworn testimony) that he was going to turn state's evidence in matters related to Chinagate and campaign finance illegalities by the DNC and Clinton.

I honestly don't believe a word of that. Brown was on top of the world and had absolutely no motivation that I know of to do that. Do you have a source for this credible evidence?

50 posted on 10/20/2001 10:15:41 AM PDT by VA Advogado
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