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US jets accidentally fire on Northern Alliance positions
Jang breaking ^ | 1830 PST

Posted on 10/22/2001 8:42:10 AM PDT by Int

US jets accidentally fire on Northern Alliance positions

(Updated at 1830 PST)
BAGRAM: United States fighter jets on Monday mistakenly fired on opposition posts during their third raid on Taliban frontlines north of the Afghan capital Kabul, said a report quoting witnesses.

Four photographers were in an opposition post when two F-16's screamed overhead.

They said they saw at least two bombs land near opposition posts and another bomb hit a Taliban controlled area near Qalai Nasru, west of Bagram airbase and situated some 45 kms north of Kabul.


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I was expecting this...
1 posted on 10/22/2001 8:42:11 AM PDT by Int
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To: Int
Uhhh, oh yeah "oops".. uhhh, yeah, sorry. Really...
2 posted on 10/22/2001 8:46:10 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: Int
If Jang cites "a report quoting witnesses," it must be true.
3 posted on 10/22/2001 8:46:16 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Int
Looks like no harm, no foul, fortunately.
4 posted on 10/22/2001 8:46:27 AM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: Int
Oops! Sorry.
5 posted on 10/22/2001 8:46:57 AM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Int
Stuff happens in a war zone; no one should be surprised when it does.
6 posted on 10/22/2001 8:51:58 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: Int
I will take this story with a grain of salt until there is confirmation from a second source. That said, it seems to me that the world (and the press in particular) needs to wake up to the reality of war. The fact that every stray bomb is reported as breaking news is absurd. IT'S WAR, for crying out loud.

Too many people still see this whole thing as entertainment. When a bomb hits something they don't like, they boo the actors. Geez louis, wait until we nuke someone or a small pox attack takes out 3 million people - these folks might actually get up and leave the theatre.

7 posted on 10/22/2001 8:54:31 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA
Concentrate on the south. The north gets enough support from Russia.
8 posted on 10/22/2001 8:55:48 AM PDT by kingh99
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To: Int
IF...two bombs land(ed) near opposition posts and another bomb hit a Taliban controlled area ...
THEN why is this considered "firing on Northern Alliance Positions"?
Just sounds like close air support to me...
9 posted on 10/22/2001 8:58:06 AM PDT by error99
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To: kingh99
No accident
10 posted on 10/22/2001 8:58:30 AM PDT by Milosevic2
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To: Milosevic2
Man, you don't give up, do you? Does it even matter to you that no one cares about your paranoid fantasies?
11 posted on 10/22/2001 9:04:06 AM PDT by Slim Pickens
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To: Int
We are desperatly trying to keep the Northern bunch from looting whats left of Kabul. Buying time to see if we can forge some kind of end play arrangement with the surrounding intrest, notably the tribes of the South. A migration to stability is the optimum goal.
12 posted on 10/22/2001 9:06:52 AM PDT by TUX
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To: Slim Pickens
I could see Afghanistan as currently configured as an anachronism. Could be cut into four pieces. The US Military could be giving oh so subtle encouragement to the Alliance that moving west could be a better idea. A lot of coulds.
13 posted on 10/22/2001 9:08:29 AM PDT by kingh99
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To: Milosevic2; error99; Viet Vet in Augusta GA
When the body count on innocent civilians goes past 6000 in Afghanistan then I'll say, "The Score Is Even". That's when revenge killing starts.
14 posted on 10/22/2001 9:08:34 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Int
Crappy source and there are no F-16's operating in Afghanistan.
15 posted on 10/22/2001 9:12:58 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Int
Murphy's First law of combat is "Always remember, Friendly fire is not friendly".....
16 posted on 10/22/2001 9:21:07 AM PDT by stumpy
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To: TUX
From what I have read coalition forming within Afghanistan could be accelerated by the Northern Alliance advancing on Kabul. The history of the warlords switching allegiances to the perceived winning force suggests those warlords currently allied with the Taliban would be eager to defect. Now may be the last best time for such defections.
17 posted on 10/22/2001 9:23:43 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Milosevic2
You are delusional. Every day you post the same bullsh*t link. Get a life!!!
18 posted on 10/22/2001 9:24:03 AM PDT by SunStar
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To: Rokke
F-16s could be operating out of Pakistan ...
19 posted on 10/22/2001 9:24:52 AM PDT by Blueflag
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To: Int
Yup. Unfortunately Americans are not known for their accuracy. I have a relative who served in the British Army during WW2. He said that whenever the Germans would start bombing or shelling, the allies would hide in the bunkers. And whenever the British would start shelling or bombing, the Germans would hide. But whenever the Americans would start shelling or bombing, everyone would hide.
20 posted on 10/22/2001 9:31:17 AM PDT by traditionalist
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To: Int
It's very unfortunate that patriotic American reprint "news" from sources allied with and sympathetic to our enemies. It is wrong morally, and also bad for morale.
21 posted on 10/22/2001 9:34:38 AM PDT by imperator2
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To: Blueflag
Keep in mind : the only country bordering Afghanistan that is harboring the US attack troops is Pakistan - where the sharia is law, the main sponsors of the Taliban for years ...
ISLAMABAD, October 22, 2001 /from RIA Novosti correspondent Vladimir Shreter/ -- According to the paper News, Pakistan has handed over a fourth air base in Panjgur (Baluchistan province), to the US. US aircraft and servicemen have previously been seen on military aerodromes in the towns of Pasni, Jacobabad, and Dalbandin.
22 posted on 10/22/2001 9:38:25 AM PDT by Milosevic2
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To: traditionalist
Unfortunately, this is very true. During the bombing of Yugoslavia 6 of the 7 countries bordering it were hit with missiles. (Romania was the only one spared)
23 posted on 10/22/2001 9:42:30 AM PDT by Int
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To: Int
We're probably going to have to fight them sooner or later. Might as well take out two birds with one stone.
25 posted on 10/22/2001 9:59:35 AM PDT by Hans Moleman
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To: The Documentary Lady
Maybe we will stop hearing the NA complain that the Americans aren't supporting the front lines via bombings. That will be a good thing. ;)
26 posted on 10/22/2001 10:01:52 AM PDT by demnomo
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To: error99
Really! From most news reports I've read or heard, the Tally Band is within a few miles of the Northern Defiance. F-16s have to fly over something in order to drop bombs on the enemy. Why not the heads of observing photographers. Duh. What propaganda.
27 posted on 10/22/2001 10:06:04 AM PDT by GoreFreeTN
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To: Milosevic2
Re your # 10

Why do you hate America so much?

28 posted on 10/22/2001 10:17:44 AM PDT by rmvh
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To: rmvh
I do no hate Americans. I feel for almost all Americans almost what I feel for the Caribbean Indians, as Colombus arrived on the scene. Short time later they were wiped out from the face of the earth. I feel sadness.
29 posted on 10/22/2001 10:31:10 AM PDT by Milosevic2
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To: Milosevic2
Milosevic2 - member since July 1st, 2001
31 posted on 10/22/2001 11:07:52 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: traditionalist
traditionalist - member since September 22nd, 2001

Cute story, for a lie. Try the truth next time.

32 posted on 10/22/2001 11:10:40 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: Milosevic2
I do no hate Americans. I feel for almost all Americans almost what I feel for the Caribbean Indians, as Colombus arrived on the scene. Short time later they were wiped out from the face of the earth. I feel sadness.

And I don't hate the Islamic cultists that follow a "religion" that has as it's major purpose the keeping of ignorant people ignorant and under control. What a pitiful lot the sheep that follow Islam in the middle east are. Puppets to the rich Arabs who don't even offer them crumbs. Fools that follow the sicko Sheikh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin and his ilk. Idiots that die for Arafat fighting against someone they will never defeat without all of their own deaths.

I assure you that before Americans are wiped away from the face of the Earth every Salah will be directed towards nothing more than very big holes in the Earth.

33 posted on 10/22/2001 11:24:07 AM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: Int
Was this an accident? Or a friendly reminder of who's really in charge?
34 posted on 10/22/2001 11:32:36 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: error99
IF...two bombs land(ed) near opposition posts and another bomb hit a Taliban controlled area ... THEN why is this considered "firing on Northern Alliance Positions"? Just sounds like close air support to me...

Exactly...

35 posted on 10/22/2001 11:54:06 AM PDT by Dan Day
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA
Stuff happens in a war zone; no one should be surprised when it does.

Right! I think we'd all be shocked to learn how many of our troops were killed by friendly fire in WWII. It's a risk that comes with the territory.

37 posted on 10/22/2001 12:25:30 PM PDT by rogers21774
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To: Milosevic2

Dude ... America will not perish! We fight for our freedom and way of life, and I'll guarantee you that we'll have more motivation going for us than those fanatic sh*theads ever ... and I mean ever thought of.

Don't be fooled because America is a peaceful nation. When our wrath is aroused we are terrible to face in battle.

The Taliban and Usama Bin Laden would've done well to study the Imperial Japanese and Adm. Yamamoto in WW2. Right after he attacked Pearl Harbor, Isoroku Yamamoto said " I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and fill him with a terrible resolve." The 'Sleeping Giant' is wide awake and filled with that terrible resolve. And you know what we did to the Japs. Every ship that was in on the Pearl Harbor strike was sunk ... and that was a total of 125 or more! Do you seriously think some little pissant country with not even half of Japan's wartime strength is going to scare us? The thing about Americans most of you non-Americans don't understand is, you can kill a few of us ... BUT WE JUST KEEP COMING UNTIL THE ENEMY IS DEFEATED! Plus there is NO NATION on earth that can match our industrial output if we go on a wartime footing. This is not bragging ... it is a fact!

To the Taliban and Usama ... BE AFRAID OF US ... BE VERY, VERY AFRAID! You called down the thunder ... WELL NOW YOU GOT IT!

38 posted on 10/22/2001 12:31:15 PM PDT by Colt .45
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To: anymouse
I see you're in denial. The fact is that friendly fire is a problem that's worse in the American military than in others. I'm not saying this to rag on our troops; I support them fully. But that does not mean we should not recognize problems and deal with them. Friendly fire was a huge problem in the Gulf War. If I remember correctly, more Americans died from friendly fire than from Iraqi fire, or something close to it. It was also a problem in Vietnam, it was a problem in Korea, and it was a problem in WW2. And this report indicates that it is still a problem.
39 posted on 10/22/2001 1:03:34 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: Int

DOH!

40 posted on 10/22/2001 1:24:13 PM PDT by R_Kangel
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To: Rokke
This AFP article mentions the photographers' names
41 posted on 10/22/2001 1:43:20 PM PDT by Int
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To: traditionalist
hahahahahahahahhahahah......The British and The Germans hiding. If memory serves the americans were the front line forces throughout most of the war when the "BRITISH" couldn't even manage a beachhead into Europe and were playing a defensive game until the USA jumped the big pond and took the fight to Germany..hahahahahahahahahahahah
42 posted on 10/22/2001 1:59:45 PM PDT by sharkdiver
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To: Int
When I was working on a new submarine communication system, I was monitoring an exercise. One sub 'sank' a merchant vessel that had the misfortune to look like a hostile. The subs response: "war is hell". I hope that they're a little less casual about it if it ever happens for real.
43 posted on 10/22/2001 2:03:47 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: traditionalist
Duh, when the Americans are firing 99% of the ordinance, it is only math that they are the most likely to have the most wayward ordinace. do I need to show you before and after pics to convince you of the accuracy of American ordinance?
44 posted on 10/22/2001 2:07:14 PM PDT by NeonKnight
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To: Int
Yeah, they all look the same...
45 posted on 10/22/2001 2:08:27 PM PDT by madrussian
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To: Int
Thanks for the link. Two things: 1. There are no F-16's in Afghanistan (maybe they were F-18's). 2. If the photographers were 75 meters from where one of the bombs hit, they most likely wouldn't have survived. The smallest ordinance our jets carry contains 500lbs of high explosive. Anything within 500 meters probably won't survive. Unless of course, they were under cover, in which case they couldn't have seen the jets to begin with.
46 posted on 10/22/2001 2:15:05 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Int
Sorry, my last pic didn't load.


DOH!

47 posted on 10/22/2001 2:16:47 PM PDT by R_Kangel
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To: Int
Those Northerners shouldn't be wearing Taliban "uniforms".
48 posted on 10/22/2001 2:44:59 PM PDT by J Jay
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To: Int
As a former fighter-bomber pilot, I am not surprised at any errant bombs when the dropping aircraft are observing a 15,000-foot "floor" on their activities. If you want to know what you are dropping on, you need to get down low amongst the trees where you can see things with human eyes.
49 posted on 10/22/2001 3:13:49 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: Milosevic2
Hey wack job - with nukes you don't always get points for accuracy. We are the predominate military in the world. Do you think that the raghead with a RPG is more accurate than an F-16? By the way I don't buy this story for a minute. 16's aren't in the ATO yet as far as I can tell.
50 posted on 10/22/2001 3:55:37 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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