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Rep. Steve Buyer, IN-R on Fox Demands use of nuclear weapons if Anthrax traced to Terrorists
Fox News Live ^ | 24 OCT 01 | DCBryan1

Posted on 10/24/2001 9:21:29 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Im paraphrasing what the Congressment is saying:

"We as a country cannot fear an open discussion {on the use of nuclear weapons)".

We have been attacked by Biological weapons, and as per our 50 year plan, need to fulfill our promise to deter such attacks by using small, tactical nuclear weapons on terrorists strongholds.

If we do not retaliate with weapons of mass destruction as they have used on us, future terrorist attacks with WMD may not be detered and the consequences may be more than we are willing to bear.

Steve Buyer, IN-R

Again I was paraphrasing.


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I say, lets ROCK and lets roll....start using nukes on these 500m-1000m deep caves.
1 posted on 10/24/2001 9:21:29 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (DCBRYAN1)
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To: DCBryan1
Peter King also supports nuke response
2 posted on 10/24/2001 9:24:01 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: DCBryan1
Thank you, Buyer, for some sanity.

We have to end terrorism. That means ending terrorists. By any and all means necessary.

3 posted on 10/24/2001 9:24:12 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: DCBryan1
The last 50 years of our existance was brought to you buy DETERANCE. If we do not make good on our promise to fight "fire with fire" (nuclear retaliation for any attack on US with NBC agents), we will be seen as a paper tiger, and we will lose the advantage of deterance, and ultimately, will be attacked by more sinister NBC weapons......IF we don't strike back.

oh, by the way, nuke baghdad while we are at it....Saddam had some cuplability.

4 posted on 10/24/2001 9:24:13 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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I fear it's just not gonna happen until a couple million of us are dead. That's the insane height to which political correctness has climbed.
5 posted on 10/24/2001 9:24:39 AM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: DCBryan1
"If we do not retaliate with weapons of mass destruction as they have used on us, future terrorist attacks with WMD may not be detered and the consequences may be more than we are willing to bear."

He's exactly RIGHT!
6 posted on 10/24/2001 9:25:08 AM PDT by hawaiian
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To: DCBryan1
Rep. Buyer is a good guy and he is right. We have said that we would respond to any NBC attack with nukes and it is time to back up our words with deeds.
7 posted on 10/24/2001 9:25:16 AM PDT by TopDog2
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To: DCBryan1
We have been attacked by Biological weapons, and as per our 50 year plan, need to fulfill our promise to deter such attacks by using small, tactical nuclear weapons on terrorists strongholds

I, at first, recoiled in horror. But you know what? On further reflection, he is right.

8 posted on 10/24/2001 9:25:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: DCBryan1
I thought that we had Bin Laden's location figured out to a 10 square mile system of caves. Why haven't we leveled those mountains. We have tactical nukes and we need to use them.
9 posted on 10/24/2001 9:27:50 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: DCBryan1
This must be under consideration. And we must be serious.
10 posted on 10/24/2001 9:27:58 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: DCBryan1
start using nukes on these 500m-1000m deep caves.

Absolutely Right, nuclear weapons exploded inside these caves would collapse the tunnels, creating tombs for the evil ones.

12 posted on 10/24/2001 9:31:12 AM PDT by SolitaryMan
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To: MississippiMan
I fear it's just not gonna happen until a couple million of us are dead. That's the insane height to which political correctness has climbed.

I think you are right. I also think that the reason why we see the floating of the idea of a domestic source for the anthrax attacks is so the administration won't have to deal with this issue right now.

Steve Buyer is exactly right. If the anthrax attacks are traced to a foreign source, we must respond with weapons of mass destruction. Otherwise, our bluff will have been called and all bets will be off.

13 posted on 10/24/2001 9:31:12 AM PDT by Pete
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To: MississippiMan
That's the insane height to which political correctness has climbed.

Might I suggest an editorial re-write???

That's the insane DEPTH to which political correctness has FALLEN.

14 posted on 10/24/2001 9:31:37 AM PDT by Goldi-Lox
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To: DCBryan1
WOO-HOO! Turn up the oven!!!!!
15 posted on 10/24/2001 9:31:56 AM PDT by hoosierboy
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To: MississippiMan
MississippiMan, all

You wrote: I fear it's just not gonna happen until a couple million of us are dead. That's the insane height to which political correctness has climbed.

That is the critical question!

To me it was on 11 SEP 01....6,000 dead by civilian jets IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, and an attack on our financial, political, and military infrastructure. I advocated the use of nuclear weapons on 12 SEP 01 or better yet, when we had a clear idea of who was involved.

Now, A month later, citizens are DYING of Anthrax, a nuisense of a biological weapon, but a biological weapon nonetheless.

We must retaliate after we find a good target, with small (1-50kt) nuclear weapons to send a message to future terrorists that "We will back up our promises" to retaliate with nuclear weapons anytime anyone uses nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons on our citizens, government, or military, at home or abroad.

16 posted on 10/24/2001 9:32:48 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1
I hope we wouldn't do this during Ramadan, we wouldn't want to hurt their feelings. (/sarcasm)
17 posted on 10/24/2001 9:32:54 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: wideawake
We have to end terrorism. That means ending terrorists. By any and all means necessary.

Do you really mean that? Would you support a national identity card if that would help? Would you give up your right to privacy? Etc., etc., etc...

18 posted on 10/24/2001 9:33:40 AM PDT by StonyMan451
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To: DCBryan1

In response to the Anthrax filled letters from terrorists.

19 posted on 10/24/2001 9:33:46 AM PDT by MassExodus
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To: TopDog2
Saw the interview this morning. He was really rocking and yelling at the three Fox folks. The younger ones that are on around 8 Eastern.
20 posted on 10/24/2001 9:35:44 AM PDT by RetiredArmy
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To: MassExodus
I just sent this out via an email chain. VERY cool picture. =)
21 posted on 10/24/2001 9:37:50 AM PDT by PokeyJoe
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To: MassExodus
ALL YOUR VIRGINS ARE BELONG TO US
22 posted on 10/24/2001 9:38:08 AM PDT by PeterBarringer
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To: DCBryan1

Find the terrorist camp in this photo.
24 posted on 10/24/2001 9:38:32 AM PDT by aomagrat
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To: DCBryan1
I agree that nukes should be used but what if it turns out to be an Amerircan Terror group that is responsible?
25 posted on 10/24/2001 9:41:54 AM PDT by Mixer
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To: pgkdan
Bin Laden is simply a symptom of our problem.

The only way nukes will ever be used is if a bunch of liberals die. Once this crap truly hits home all eyes will be opened.

26 posted on 10/24/2001 9:42:11 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: DCBryan1
This makes 3 congressmen in about one week saying the same message!

This is preparing America to wake up some morning and read that Iraq or Syria or Cuba does not exist anymore! As more innocent Americans die from Anthrax or are stricken by by Anhtrax, more Americans will say good riddance if nuclear weapons are used to destroy these people!

Now I have a question for those reading this thread:

What if the people mailing these Anthrax strains are identified as members of Elf, Earth First and other green envirals who hate Americans? What will you response be?

What would your response be if it is documented that the Opecker nations have been contributing to main line enviral organizations since 1973? The goal of these contributions was to have the envirals make us hate oil, oil companies and to limit exploration for new oil in the lower 48 and Alaska! Just two weeks ago, Dasshole, who has received campaign money and votes from envirals kept the bill for drilling in ANWR from going to a full vote in the Senate!

27 posted on 10/24/2001 9:42:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: DCBryan1
I absolutely agree with Steve Buyer.Some time back,the then Japanese prime-minister criticized The American worker for being "lazy,and illiterate".A while after that,I was visiting our local gun-show and I came across a bumper-sticker that pictured an atomic explosion(mushroom-cloud).Next to the explosion it reads:"Built by Lazy,Illiterate Americans;Tested in Japan" I think that if we find that bin laden and his thugs are behind this anthrax contamination,It's time to start"Testing" again!This time,we'll try Afghanistan,and perhaps,Iraq!!
28 posted on 10/24/2001 9:42:57 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: DCBryan1
Let us not talk about it. I'm sick and tired of talk, talk, talk. Let's do it for a welcome change.
29 posted on 10/24/2001 9:44:30 AM PDT by theoutsideman
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To: DCBryan1
Well, what if these terrorists already have nukes? And one or more of them detonated? Wouldn't we be blamed? They have had suicide bombers for years. Why wouldn't they just simply blow themselves up?

Accidents happen:)

30 posted on 10/24/2001 9:44:40 AM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: AbeLincoln
Yes! I would proudly carry a national I.D. card the same way I proudly wear a U.S. Flag pin on my collar. A national I.D. card would simply say "I'm proud to be a citizen of this great country!"
31 posted on 10/24/2001 9:44:58 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: MassExodus
Too Funny!
Put "TAKE IODYNE NOW" in the next one.
32 posted on 10/24/2001 9:46:00 AM PDT by dmcnash
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To: carnivaljoe
right we should just love them and it will all be better.

nice day to join FR today?

33 posted on 10/24/2001 9:46:21 AM PDT by Chipper
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To: DCBryan1
"If we do not retaliate with weapons of mass destruction as they have used on us, future terrorist attacks with WMD may not be detered and the consequences may be more than we are willing to bear."
I agree.

"We have been attacked by Biological weapons, and as per our 50 year plan, need to fulfill our promise to deter such attacks by using small, tactical nuclear weapons on terrorists strongholds."
I DISAGREE. We should use Big nuclear weapons ...

34 posted on 10/24/2001 9:47:25 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: Grampa Dave
The point is we should use nukes IF it's traced to these terrorists. Nobody has said use nukes if it's greenpeace.
35 posted on 10/24/2001 9:48:27 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: pgkdan
You posted, "I thought that we had Bin Laden's location figured out to a 10 square mile system of caves. Why haven't we leveled those mountains. We have tactical nukes and we need to use them."

OBL is not the target now. We are treating his thugs and their war toys the same as we treated the mass Raping Japanese soldiers on the various islands during WWII! Did any of the Japanese soldiers killed or maimed on those islands ever kill or rape an innocent after we got through with them. Has Japan been a threat since then to us in a military way?

OBL thugs have been given a chance to surrender. They chosen death or terrible maiming. When, we have basically destroyed all of his weapons, his men, and his support groups. We will find the cave/caves and seal them up for about 20 centuries!

First we kill or maim all of his camel thumping terrorist thugs and their war toys! Then we deal with OBL and his lieutenants!

36 posted on 10/24/2001 9:48:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: carnivaljoe
Kneebiter? Forget YOUR kneepads? BTW, welcome to FR.
37 posted on 10/24/2001 9:49:52 AM PDT by 4CJ
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Re: Carny Joe

"...nice day to join FR today?..."

Is that 'member since' before or after lunch I wonder?

38 posted on 10/24/2001 9:50:22 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: Terry Mross
No, I'm not suggesting that we nuke our local eco terrorists if they are involved in spreading Anthrax. What should we do to them, if they are involved?
39 posted on 10/24/2001 9:50:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: AbeLincoln
"Would you support a national identity card if that would help? Would you give up your right to privacy? Etc., etc., etc..."

A soundbite I heard on the radio this morning from an unnamed politician on the subject of liberties and security:

"The Bill of Rights" is not a suicide pact."

Those words brought the current conundrum into sharp focus for me. The Founding Fathers may have feared, but not intended, that our Freedoms would be used against us as a defensive weapon by our enemies. Your screen namesake was the first president to face this issue head on in a fight for America's very survival. Well, here we go again!

40 posted on 10/24/2001 9:50:56 AM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Grampa Dave
Environmental groups pride themselves on not "directly" harming humans. Same for animal rights groups. That is how they are able to get people sympathetic to their cause. If these groups were to use Bio-terrorism it would have started in Europe (more likely England) first and then worked its way across the Pond.
41 posted on 10/24/2001 9:51:56 AM PDT by Chipper
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To: Grampa Dave
We execute them in "a New York minute".

?Carbey Joe, would you change your mind if your girlfriend Hillary died of anthrax? Of course that'll never happen. Her flunkies pre-breath all of her air for her.

42 posted on 10/24/2001 9:53:06 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: DCBryan1
I'm with you, Steve Buyer. Brute force is the only language those people understand. Time to show them we mean business.
43 posted on 10/24/2001 9:53:49 AM PDT by freedomgirl
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
I DISAGREE. We should use Big nuclear weapons ...

Forget the Nukes...

We have all this XV nerve gas sitting waiting to be destroyed. I may have a better use for it.

And, as a plus, no fall-out and no waiting 1000 years to pull out their dead carcasses!

44 posted on 10/24/2001 9:54:35 AM PDT by MarketR
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To: DCBryan1
I would rather congress start kicking arabs out of the country. When they do this then I will be ready to discuss nukes. Untill then it is just another issue for them to blow smoke about. They are not serious about protecting the american people yet.
45 posted on 10/24/2001 9:55:10 AM PDT by winodog
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To: Mixer
Mixer posted, "I agree that nukes should be used but what if it turns out to be an Amerircan Terror group that is responsible?"

Absolutely! What do we do if the people spreading the Anthrax via our postal system are home grown terrorists! Please see my replies # 27 adn 39 on this thread.

46 posted on 10/24/2001 9:57:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: winodog
The Politicians are probably not serious enough yet to start protecting American citizens

Damn, winodog, you are probaby right!

47 posted on 10/24/2001 9:58:05 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: Grampa Dave
We execute them if their home grown terrorists. Then we nuke the other ones just for good measure.
48 posted on 10/24/2001 10:00:07 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: dmcnash

Good advice!

Hows that ?

49 posted on 10/24/2001 10:00:37 AM PDT by MassExodus
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To: Harrison Bergeron
Your screen namesake was the first president to face this issue head on in a fight for America's very survival.

I agree that there may come a time when a national ID card might be reasonable, as well as some restrictions on our privacy. However, I don't believe that we have come anywhere close to that time, even if this Anthrax situation turns out to be much worse than it currently is. I certainly don't think it will EVER get to the point where using nukes will be a reasonable response. I just thank God that Rep. Steve Buyer, if he is doing anything more than blowing off steam, is not making the decisions right now.

And whatever happened to "Give me liberty or give me death!"?

50 posted on 10/24/2001 10:00:46 AM PDT by StonyMan451
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