"You other Americans should behave like our favorites."
Posted on 10/24/2001 5:50:35 PM PDT by vrwc54
When New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani rejected Saudi prince Al-Walid bin Talal's $10 million donation to New York City following the latter's comments on what he referred to as the root causes of the September 11 attacks, newspaper columnists in Saudi Arabia, Syria, and the Palestinian Authority attacked Giuliani and the United States:Mahmoud bin Abd Al-Ghani Sabbagh, columnist for the Saudi paper Al-Riyadh, wrote a column headlined: "Al-Walid's check, the homosexual governor [sic], and the propaganda war": "The words of [Prince Al-Walid] did not, of course, please the Jewish lobby in the home of the largest Jewish community in the world. Because the governor [sic] of the Big Apple is a Jew, he refused [to accept the donation] and caused a storm."
"Giuliani said: 'The Prince's declarations are grievous and irresponsible; these Arabs have lost the right to dictate [to us what to do]. What we (America) must do is kill 6,000 innocent people.'"
"By Allah, I am amazed at your act, you Jew; everything Prince Al-Walid said was true."
"What happened proves beyond any doubt the public insolence, the open hatred, and the collapse of American democratic theory. If democracy means a governor who is a homosexual in a city in which dance clubs, prostitution, homosexuality, and stripping proliferate - the U.S. can keep its democracy."(1)
Dr. Abd Al-Wahed Al-Hamid, also a columnist for Al-Riyadh, wrote: "Giuliani's act exemplifies the stupidity of a number of top American officials who repeat the same mistakes that aroused great animosity towards them, not only in Arab and Islamic regions, but throughout the world."
"The problem is with Giuliani, not with the declarations of Prince Al-Walid bin Talal. With his idiotic behavior, Giuliani denied the victims of the building that collapsed the aid they need. He sacrificed the public interest for a private interest, manifested in his desire to draw closer to the Jewish electorate."
"Doesn't Giuliani know that even some political activists in 'Israel' are criticizing America's blind support for Israel?!. They know that the long-term ramifications of this unbalanced policy will only bring disaster. This is what Rudolph Giuliani, and all the other Giulianis, must realize!!"(2)
Joining the attacks on Giuliani were columnists in the Palestinian Authority mouthpiece Al-Hayat Al-Jadida. Editor Hafez Al-Barghouthi wrote: "New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani was obsessed by his hatred of Arabs even before the terrorist attacks on New York. He hides his first name, chosen for him by his Italian father, so as not to remind the Jewish voters of the infamous Rudolph Hitler [sic]. This is why he prefers to shorten it to Rudy."
"There is an intense offensive against Saudi Arabia [in the U.S.] because it is not automatically signing up for the American war; on the contrary, it has many legitimate reservations regarding Western policy towards the Arabs."
"Anyone following the Israeli and American columnists smells a media trap aimed at accusing the Saudi kingdom of terrorism, and even of harboring terrorists. [This is] not because it is true, but because Saudi Arabia is fighting alone on several fronts to protect the uniqueness of Saudi policy. It will not enter into another's war when it does not know where that war is headed; it fights terrorism in its own way and protects the interests of itself and its citizens."(3)
Al-Barghouthi's colleague, columnist (and Palestinian Authority high ranking official) 'Adli Sadeq, attacked New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, who declared his support for Giuliani and criticized the Saudi regime: "Friedman. says that the U.S. is not responsible for what he calls the widespread 'frustration' among young Saudis that makes them support bin Laden. He contends that it is not Washington that maintains an autocratic regime, and denies young people their political rights. He chides the Arab countries for their failure to [deal with] the challenges of development, and says that North Korea's average per capita income in 1950 was similar to that of Arab countries, but that today Korea has left the Arab states far behind. According to him, the U.S. is not responsible for this."
"Thomas Friedman is a liar and a fraud. The U.S. is the enemy of the democratic aspirations of the Arab peoples; it is the friend and protector of dictatorships and autocracies; it is the number one schemer against development in the Arab world."
"With regard to the media attack on Saudi Arabia, I maintain that Riyadh is doing the right thing. Refraining from joining the Americans. is counted in the tally of the Saudi government's good deeds."(4)
Talal Salman, editor of the pro-Syrian Lebanese daily Al-Safir, wrote that "the American president has missteps, some of which are laughingly bizarre, and some of which are stupid and not seemly for the most dangerous man in the world."
"President George W. Bush, who is not known for his intelligence or his knowledge of what is happening in the world, tried to correct the misstep of his top diplomat [U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, who referred to the possibility of an American attack on Syria] and promised Syria that until further notice (!!) it would remain outside the circle of his rage and his bloody vengeance."
"In this circle might also be the two insults that the American government directed at Prince Al-Walid bin Talal. one by the Zionist New York mayor whose public feelings go far beyond what Israel demands of him, and another by the spokesman of the American State Department."
"The condition for accepting Arab money (with the exception of the money that was plundered) is that [the donation] not be contingent upon any political condition, that it expresses absolute and unconditional loyalty, and that it emphasizes submission to the 'master' without the latter having to say thank you. The master is benevolent enough to accept the money ."(5)
Endnotes:
(1) Al-Riyadh (Saudi Arabia), October 15, 2001.
(2) Ibid.
(3) Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (Palestinian Authority), October 17
2001.
(4) Ibid.
(5) Al-Safir (Lebanon), October 13 2001.************************
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Check this little jem:
"What happened proves beyond any doubt the public insolence, the open hatred, and the collapse of American democratic theory. If democracy means a governor who is a homosexual in a city in which dance clubs, prostitution, homosexuality, and stripping proliferate - the U.S. can keep its democracy."
ROFL !
Good stuff!
LOL. Bizarre, unbelieveable, funny, sad, PATHETIC!!
Our coalition partners.
It may be hard not to laugh when reading what they wrote but it's hard not to cry when realizing that our leaders in Washington are blind to the obvious.
Adli Sadeq doesn't seem to know North Korea from South Korea. Practically all the Arab countries have per capita incomes higher than that of North Korea. But to be fair that could be Thomas Friedman's mistake. As a liberal Democrat he may think North Korea is a paradise.
LOL
They wish to measure America by observing the worse of us - and expect us to judge Muslim States by the "best of them"... If Saudi Arabia represents the "best" of our Arab friends -- I say to hell with them..
With the exception of Turkey - I distrust all the others.
We should consider ALL other Arab/Muslim states as real or potential enemies --- and REQUIRE them to take action against Terrorists in the Field - If they will NOT join us in the fight against terrorists, they will have to take the field to fight the West.
It is up to the Arabs to determine if this is a war against Islam, or simply a war against the cockroach terrorists..
We can NOT allow those fat bastards to sit on the sideline, cheering both sides or cursing both sides - it time for them to fish or cut bait.
Semper Fi
...Saudi Arabia is fighting alone on several fronts to protect the uniqueness of Saudi policy. It will not enter into another's war when it does not know where that war is headed; it fights terrorism in its own way and protects the interests of itself and its citizens."(3)
We need to accept that principle in our relationship with them. We could change the name of Saudi Arabia to ... Exxon. In the interest of ourself and our citizens.
I think that they would change their tune pretty quickly.
If he thinks Bush is stupid, he ought to take a look at the others quoted in this column. Even Bush's "...we will fail" screw up pales in comparison to "Rudolph Hitler".
Did I miss something here?
But all the terrorists were Muslim. When even ONE American Muslim can say "we condemn the attacks on Sept 11" without the automatic "but" and declare a Jihad against those in their ranks then so called American Muslims may be taken at their word.
Look at the time I'm posting my reply! I'm laughing so hard I'm crying, and, now I've awakened the household.
Why didn't you ping me on this? I almost missed it! BOOKMARKED!
Dear Saudi Arabia,
Please keep your terrorists out of our strip clubs.4 posted on 10/24/01 5:57 PM Pacific by Dialup Llama
Its positive idiocy to think the Saudis wish us harm. This was personal for Rudy and much I admire him, he made a mistake.
How can anyone ignore US foreign policy? The conflict in Palestine has been going on since 1930 and has impacted many innocent people_ leaking over onto Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt just to name the majors. Now it has come to America and OUR innocent citizens.
Yeah, look at all the infiltration. What are you, a fifth-columnist?
You gonna post this lie on every thread today, or just stop at the two I've already read?
You have a way of making things up; days later I am STILL waiting to hear the source of your claim that ALL of Prince Allah-Weed's princely brothers were prepared to make the same princely donation if only that rascally Jewliani hadn't gone and spoiled everything.
Oh, I forgot--that was from your "personal knowledge" fertile imagination.
The following website has the 1996 National Trade Estimates ... sorry, couldn't find anything more recent.
http://www.ustr.gov/reports/nte/1996/appendix.html
As you can see, Saudi Arabia falls 18th, behind such notables as Malaysia and Thailand.
As a hint, you can be a better propagandist if, at least, you know that your assertions cannot be challenged by facts. Being a good shill means that you must be able to appeal to emotional and political correctness rather than facts; that way, you will not be impeded by the facts.
Oh, and as you can see, in 1996, we were running a 472 million dollar trade deficit with the Saudis. So, other than purchasing their oil, I wouldn't use trade as an argument to maintain any "relationship" with a country that, at best, seems lukewarm to our anti-terrorism war.
My sweet Lord, how many times must I hear this ignorant statement made on these threads.
Wake up and smell the rotting corpses, dumb-ass.
IT WASN'T THE "PALESTINIAN QUESTION" THAT LED TO THE HIJACKINGS AND DESTRUCTION.
bin Laden has a hard on for us because of our troops in Saudi, fool. "Palestine" is an add-on for the entertainment of the idiot palestinians and to gain propoganda victories in the West, since there are apparently so many mush-heads here that get all weepy at the very thought of Israel defending itself against palestinian terrorism.
"You other Americans should behave like our favorites."
Just in case anyone's forgotten, this is what Giuliani REALLY said:
"There is no moral equivalent for this attack," the mayor said. "The people who did it lost any right to ask for justification when they slaughtered 5,000, 6,000 innocent people. ... Not only are those statements wrong, they're part of the problem."
Amen, Rudy. I love ya, man.
Are you aware that there has been well over 1 BILLION dollars raised for the survivers of the attack and that from American citizens ? More money is coming ine every single day. The problem is, that the money is NOT being given out . Do you know that ?
I guess that since China is our trading partner, you think it's okay that they gave money to the Clintons. Yes ? Even if that is against the law ? Or is that wrong ? No, this isn't " apples and oranges." Think ... what if Hitler jad donated money to Jewish war orphans, in 1941 ; that's what the prince's DIRTY money was like.
I think we finally have a moniker to hang on "The Tourist Guy".
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