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Israel Finds Radiological Backpack Bomb
UPI via World Net Daily ^ | 26 OCT 2001 | Richard Sale

Posted on 10/26/2001 7:40:05 AM PDT by Lurker

Israel Finds Radiological Backpack Bomb
RICHARD SALE, UPI Terrorism
Correspondent, United Press International,
October 14, 2001 -- Israeli security last month arrested a man linked to suspected terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden armed with a radiological backpack bomb, as he attempted to enter Israel from the Palestinian Territories via a border checkpoint at Ramallah, according to U.S. government officials.

The arrest took place during the last week of September, according to one knowledgeable official who spoke on condition of anonymity. He declined to give the exact date of arrest. Two other sources interviewed by UPI confirmed the incident, but also declined to give further details.

"People know how to walk a dog back," one said, meaning that relating too exact an account could lead to the identification of the source of the information.

Regarding the arrest, a U.S. government official said: "There was only one individual involved. He was from Pakistan."

Another source said U.S. officials believed that the suspect had probably gotten to the territories via Lebanon.

Information on the arrest went immediately to U.S. President Bush and a close circle of advisors, another U.S. official said. He described the appearance and character of the top-secret report circulated among the Cabinet members and signed by each official present.

Former Pentagon terrorism expert, Peter Probst, described a radiological bomb as a device with a small explosive core that is encased in radioactive material. "It would not kill a great many people, but it would contaminate a considerable area with radiation," he said.

A U.S. government expert said that the weapon captured by Israel was a backpack device that CIA officials learned about through Russian intelligence agents in place in 1995.

He emphasized it was not a so-called nuclear suitcase bomb.

The CIA had intelligence reports from senior Arab intelligence officials alleging that in October 1998 bin Laden had obtained one or two nuclear suitcase weapons from a Central Asian republic in return for $30 million in cash and two tons of heroin worth $70 million - a deal brokered by the Chechen mafia.

Russian Gen. Aleksandr Ivanovich Lebed, a former national security advisor to then-President Yeltsin acknowledged publicly in 1997 that several nuclear suitcase bombs had disappeared from Russia's arsenal.

But former CIA counter-terrorism official Vince Cannistraro has no patience with such accounts: "All talk of bin Laden having a nuclear suitcase bomb is crap," he said.

Cannistraro could not be reached for comment about the backpack device.

Nuclear suitcase bombs were designed for Soviet Speznatz or special operations troops to assault and destroy NATO command and control bunkers in Europe in the event of a NATO-Soviet war. The devices could not be detonated without matching codes held in strictest security by Moscow, a former CIA official said.

Backpack bombs have no such codes, but they were also designed for Spetznetz forces and have such an intricate and complex system of activation that the ability of a terrorist to detonate one "would be incredibly limited," according to one U.S. government official.

"There is such a complicated sequence you have to perform that some terrorist isn't going to be able to get it to work. You have to be very highly trained," an intelligence official agreed, describing the chances that the device could have been activated as "practically miniscule."

Probst is nevertheless convinced that radiological bombs are still a danger for New York City. "Bin Laden is fascinated by Wall Street. My fear is that he will attempt to smuggle in some "dirty" bomb that wouldn't kill many people but would dangerously contaminate the area," he said.

Copyright 2001 by United Press International.


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Did a search, didn't see it posted.

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1 posted on 10/26/2001 7:40:05 AM PDT by Lurker
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To: Lurker
Stunning news.
2 posted on 10/26/2001 7:45:32 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Lurker
Is this for real?

If Israel found a terrorist with any form of atomic weapon, surely we would have seen a massive retaliation?

On the other hand, if this is for real, then this kicks the possibility of a radiological attack against the US from 'possible' to 'probable', maybe even inevitable.

3 posted on 10/26/2001 7:46:11 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: Lurker
Is there anyone here who does not believe that the threat of a nuclear strike from Bin laden is no longer a matter of if, but when and where?
4 posted on 10/26/2001 7:47:00 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
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To: Lurker
IMHO, this will be our third wave here in America. Radiological Hot Zones: coming soon to a symbol of capitalism near you.

God help us.

5 posted on 10/26/2001 7:49:20 AM PDT by Petronski
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To: anniegetyourgun
Scary. Arizona Republic had article that the Phoenix hiking club had 6 individual reports of suspicious middle eastern men with identical orange backpacks at the top of Squaw Peak Mountain. Announcement made to alert hikers. I do not know how to copy articles, but now would be the time. I believe it was in yesterdays online edition. Could you please try to add it Annie? Game here this weeend as well as Nascar.
6 posted on 10/26/2001 7:49:42 AM PDT by JHENN22499
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To: Lunatic Fringe
From bin Laden I think the where would be NYC or DC. As to the when, that depends entirely upon what steps we are willing to take.

He will do it if he has any opportunity to do so.

7 posted on 10/26/2001 7:49:50 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Inevitable, yes I would agree. I just hope they haven't discovered the nightmarish consequences of Cobalt-59.
8 posted on 10/26/2001 7:50:50 AM PDT by Petronski
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To: Lurker
>Did a search, didn't see it posted.

Hey, I wonder if WND is getting their stories from FR!

Not only was this posted over a week ago, but it was discussed in great detail, and then the source was tracked down and posted by Freeper spycatcher.

The other thread is here: Israelis Capture Man With Radiological Backpack Bomb

Mark W.

9 posted on 10/26/2001 7:51:13 AM PDT by MarkWar
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To: Lurker
FR Axiom 23: Every old story has been posted at Free Republic at least once whether you can find it in a search or not. ;-)

This was a frightening story when first posted and it is still frightening today.

I could write ten pages outlining all the implications of this story but the thread covered many and the rest you should be bright enough to figure out for yourself.
10 posted on 10/26/2001 7:56:22 AM PDT by cgbg
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To: JHENN22499
"suspicious middle eastern men with identicaL orange backpacks at the top of Squaw Peak Mountain"

And what is it about Squaw Peak Mountain that might attract terrorists?
11 posted on 10/26/2001 7:58:54 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: MarkWar
If you go to arizonarepublic.com Under sight search: type in Sqaw Peak and read article from yesterday. Could you copy it to here?
12 posted on 10/26/2001 7:59:13 AM PDT by JHENN22499
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To: Lurker
So once more we will have so called experts telling us that it is impossible for those who are engaged in a Jihad against us to have these weapons. when one goes off in the USA they will blame some Right Eing Group as they are now with the Anthrax attacks.

I guess we better get used to the Liberals who want to go after their enemies instead of the enemies of America.

Stay well - stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

13 posted on 10/26/2001 7:59:53 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: Steve_Seattle
Location in the city. We have Nascar and 1st World Series games here this weekend.
14 posted on 10/26/2001 8:01:03 AM PDT by JHENN22499
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To: harpseal
Yep.

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15 posted on 10/26/2001 8:02:00 AM PDT by Lurker
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To: MarkWar
Sorry for the wasted bandwidth.

L

16 posted on 10/26/2001 8:02:49 AM PDT by Lurker
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To: JHENN22499
I think I might need a tin foil hat. This is the 1st time I'm feeling a little nervous. Let's hope this is nothing!
17 posted on 10/26/2001 8:03:04 AM PDT by JHENN22499
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To: MarkWar
If accurate, let's start at the "A" line in Israel and evict the Islamic squaters to a place more in line with the object of their worship, the Moon.
18 posted on 10/26/2001 8:06:41 AM PDT by hsszionist
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To: JHENN22499
Possible Nuclear Terror Alert

Pakistani Nuclear Scientist Arrested

19 posted on 10/26/2001 8:06:45 AM PDT by 6ppc
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To: Lurker
Hey Lurk, I missed it before. Thanks for bringing up again. Semper Fi
20 posted on 10/26/2001 8:08:41 AM PDT by 68 grunt
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To: Lurker
What I want to know is why the h*** isn't this all over the major news networks?
21 posted on 10/26/2001 8:09:52 AM PDT by butter pecan fan
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To: JHENN22499
"Location in the city."

Ah! Squaw Peak Mountain sounded like a wilderness location, and I couldn't understand why terrorists would be there.
22 posted on 10/26/2001 8:12:48 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: harpseal
So once more we will have so called experts telling us that it is impossible for those who are engaged in a Jihad against us to have these weapons. when one goes off in the USA they will blame some Right Eing Group as they are now with the Anthrax attacks.

My guess this is how Bill and Hitlery expect to get back into power. Obstruct the war effort, and say it's domestic enemies, and not the sainted muslims. Forget about the dead from the plane attacks, and the anthrax, and start drawing analogies to Vietnam. Say that the rags have some "justifiable" grievances, and we can't win without our fragile islamic "coalition".

The goal is to make Bush a one-term president, even if it means continued terrorism in this country. The democRATs long ago learned to not only live with crime (their elite always well-protected by the taxpayer), but use it to strengthen their grip on power. They would have no problem "looking the other way" at endemic terrorism in this country, since it would give them the excuse to inflict draconian restrictions on our freedom in the name of "fighting terrorism".

My greatest fear is that there are plenty of Republicans eager to go along with it, as long as they're promised a few crumbs from the democRATs. We're already being bombarded daily with Politcial Correctness, telling us why we have to be nice to the enemies in our midst.

23 posted on 10/26/2001 8:22:22 AM PDT by 300winmag
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To: 6ppc
Thanks. Missed those yesterday. That's what I get for turning off the computer for a day!
24 posted on 10/26/2001 8:35:52 AM PDT by JHENN22499
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To: JHENN22499
I've been on Squaw Peak, about five years ago on a vacation. Not central to the city, probably a bit too far away for any threat to the downtown area.

Suspicious men seen on Squaw Peak trail
By Judi Villa
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 24, 2001

The Squaw Peak Hiking Association is urging members to avoid the mountain's Summit Trail because two groups of Middle Eastern-looking men were seen there with "heavy, identical orange backpacks."

"While the contents of these heavy backpacks are not known, what is worrisome is that they could contain hazardous agents, explosives or firearms, should the owners have bad intentions to those on the mountain," the group said in a news release.

However, FBI spokesman Ed Hall said there is no evidence to suggest that the mountain would be a terrorist target.

"I have no information of anything that would keep somebody from hiking Squaw Peak," Hall said Tuesday.

Muslim community members liken the group's warning to racial profiling and say it's fueled by paranoia, not logic.

"There is no reason for anybody when they see a Middle Easterner here or there to panic," said Ihsan Saadeddin, spokesman for the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix. "There are 8 million Middle Easterners in this country, and they cannot be treated like this."

The hikers group says it has received "six independent reports of suspicious activity"; three were reported to authorities. An e-mail sent to members says two of the men drew suspicion by singing in Arabic at 4 a.m. and raising their fists in the air.

[Comment: these guys can't be oblivious to current events. Given the current climate, is this a very smart thing to do, even if their intentions are benign?]

The group is asking for a police presence on the mountain.

"It's good for people to be cautious and to be alert and to report suspicious things," said Marwan Ahmad, publisher of Arizona Muslim Voice, "but if this group of men was Caucasian, doing the same and carrying the same backpacks, would there be a press release?"

25 posted on 10/26/2001 8:40:12 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: JHENN22499
Arizona Republic Article
26 posted on 10/26/2001 8:45:22 AM PDT by sonofagun
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To: Lurker
I've seen this one story posted over and over again, and I don't think it's credible. Sale has a history of bad reporting. See this link for a good example.
27 posted on 10/26/2001 8:57:14 AM PDT by ignatz_q
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To: 6ppc
>The former head of Pakistan's nuclear research programme, who is also an outspoken supporter of Islamic radicals, has been arrested in Pakistan and placed in "protective custody", the government said today.

In-f#ck%ng-credible. So this guy runs the Pakistan nuclear program until he retires, openly visits Afghanistan, and openly supports the Taliban, and they wait until ater he retires to arrest him.

Who can guess, at this point which or what kind of nuclear devices & material bin Laden may have? Heck, he's probably got a selection to choose from...

Mark W.

28 posted on 10/26/2001 10:16:27 AM PDT by MarkWar
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To: JHENN22499; cogitator
>If you go to arizonarepublic.com Under sight search: type in Sqaw Peak and read article from yesterday. Could you copy it to here?

I'd have done it! You guys are all too fast for me! (Thanks for the good find, and thanks for doing the linking...)

Doesn't the World Series start in Phoenix tomorrow?!

(Now that Mark Grace has finally got there, I'd hate to see him vaporized...)

Mark W.

29 posted on 10/26/2001 10:22:54 AM PDT by MarkWar
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To: super175; Squantos; Hopalong; BlueDogDemo; aristeides; Wallaby; Uncle Bill; LSJohn; Judge Parker...
BTTT
30 posted on 10/27/2001 12:39:16 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: Ozymandias Ghost; belmont_mark; Chapita; Harrison Bergeron; OwenKellogg
BTTT
31 posted on 10/27/2001 12:43:04 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: JoeEveryman
Ping!
32 posted on 10/27/2001 12:49:24 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: Lurker
This is exactly why we should NOT start talking about NOT using tactical nuclear battlefield weapons, chemical agents, biological warfare, or "illegal" weapons. Mass murdering terrorists that will stop at NOTHING to kill as many of us as they can, should have EVERYTHING in our arsenal and then some thrown at them if need be. The only way to stop the terrorism is to kill the terrorist, period. After all, by setting a standard of no standards or limits, the terrorist has determined the nature and aspect of the warfare he will face, and we would be fools to respond otherwise. Let the terrorist know exactly what his actions have wrought and the price he will pay for it.
33 posted on 10/27/2001 12:57:19 AM PDT by Imperial Warrior
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I think bin Laden's cryptic reference to Hiroshima and Nagasaki in his videotape after Sept. 11 shows he is thinking nuke.
34 posted on 10/27/2001 7:07:52 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thanks for the flag. I guess this is why they've been keeping Cheney away from Bush.
35 posted on 10/27/2001 7:11:59 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Lurker
How do you get to the Palestinian Territories from Pakistan or Afghanistan with a nuclear device without being spotted at customs? What was this guy's route?
36 posted on 10/27/2001 7:14:01 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: harpseal
So once more we will have so called experts telling us that it is impossible for those who are engaged in a Jihad against us to have these weapons. when one goes off in the USA they will blame some Right Eing Group as they are now with the Anthrax attacks.

A radiological bomb is different from a nuke in that it uses conventional explosives to scatter radioactive dust over a wide area. If you exit the area quickly, shower, and toss the clothes you will probably be all right, but the real esate will be contaminated and unusable for years

37 posted on 10/27/2001 7:24:59 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: OKCSubmariner; aristeides
Has any one thought of the terrorists using "blinding lasers"?

Could they be put in backpacks?

How are they checking that botulism isnt going to be put in the food at the baseball game?

Does any one think that the Tom-Toms,Ridge and Thompson,will be able to do much of anything when the serious stuff really hits?

38 posted on 10/27/2001 12:17:38 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: Lurker
They caught one; I wonder how many others they didn't catch...

--Boris

39 posted on 10/27/2001 12:23:18 PM PDT by boris
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To: SauronOfMordor
Heard it mentioned on one of the Networks as a "dirty bomb". Is that the same thing we are talking about?
40 posted on 10/27/2001 12:46:29 PM PDT by codder too
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To: codder too
BUMP
41 posted on 10/27/2001 1:11:06 PM PDT by codder too
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To: SauronOfMordor
I do realize there is a major difference between a radiological bomb and a nuclear device but I have heard many so called experts bloviating about how no terrorist could really have such a device and all concerns were overblown. The cost of radiological cleanup would have a significant impact on whatever state was targeted with such a device.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

42 posted on 10/29/2001 4:31:28 AM PST by harpseal
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To: codder too
Right, a "dirty bomb" is a radiological bomb and is a radioactive particle scatterer.
45 posted on 10/29/2001 6:09:50 AM PST by flamefront
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To: Lurker
"There is such a complicated sequence you have to perform that some terrorist isn't going to be able to get it to work. You have to be very highly trained"

Two months ago you could have said the same thing regarding the piloting of an large jet airplane.

46 posted on 10/29/2001 6:21:45 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Lurker; harpseal; Travis McGee; Victoria Delsoul; Spirit Of Truth; Manny Festo...
Israeli security last month arrested a man linked to suspected terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden armed with a radiological backpack bomb, as he attempted to enter Israel from the Palestinian Territories via a border checkpoint at Ramallah, according to U.S. government officials.

The arrest took place during the last week of September, according to one knowledgeable official who spoke on condition of anonymity. He declined to give the exact date of arrest. Two other sources interviewed by UPI confirmed the incident, but also declined to give further details.

"People know how to walk a dog back," one said, meaning that relating too exact an account could lead to the identification of the source of the information.

Regarding the arrest, a U.S. government official said: "There was only one individual involved. He was from Pakistan."

Pakinuclear pa-PING!!


47 posted on 10/29/2001 6:50:42 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Imagine the panic if someone set off a dirty nuke here. We have a handful die from Anthrax and the country flips. A nuke? Wouldn't matter that it wasn't the real kind.
48 posted on 10/29/2001 7:01:30 AM PST by patent
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To: patent
"Imagine the panic if someone set off a dirty nuke here"

I can only imagine that our domestic 5th Column might finally get their one-way tickets back to the hell-holes of their loyalties.

I frankly can't understand why our Congress hasn't taken the necessary steps to deport all Arab and Moslem non-citizens when the American public supports it, and Congress itself has been attacked with a WMD.


49 posted on 10/29/2001 7:17:55 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
For a WMD, Anthrax is not very effective. Osama and friends would have done better with a couple sticks of dynamite.
50 posted on 10/29/2001 7:21:12 AM PST by patent
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