Skip to comments.Let's Restore Medina to the Jews
Posted on 10/27/2001 6:33:03 AM PDT by ml/nj
From Chapter 1, Historical Outline:
In the year 622, on the invitation of the Ansar - a group of pagans converted to Islam - Muhammad and his small band of followers left Mecca for Yathrib (Medina). The population then consisted of polytheistic clans, of Jewish tribes that had long been established in Arabia, and Arabs converted to Judaism. ...
The arrival of Muhammad and his followers provoked no opposition from the Jews. ...
In 624 Muhammad, joined by more followers, called upon the Qaynuqa, one of the Jewish tribes of Medina, to recognize his prophetic mission. When they refused, he besieged and overcame them. On the intercession of one of their protectors - a recent convert to Islam - their lives were spared, but they were expelled from the city, their lands and a part of their possessions being confiscated by the Muslims. The following year the Jewish Nadir tribe suffered a similar fate: Muhammad burned down their palm groves and divided all their fields and houses among the community of Believers. [footnote]
In 627 the Meccans sent a united force to lay siege to the Muslims in Medina, but they withdrew suddenly on a stormy night without fighting. However, guided by the angel Gabriel, Muhammad then turned his host against the Jewish tribe of the Qurayza who had been neutral during the seige. Because the Jews refused conversion, Muhammad attacked and overwhelmed them. Trenches were then dug in the marketplace of Medina, and the Jews - six to nine hundred of them, according to traditional Muslim sources - were led forth in batches and decapitated. All the menfolk perished in this way, with the exception of one convert to Islam. The Prophet then divided the women, children, houses, and chattels among the Muslims.[footnote]
... In 628, taking advantage of a treaty of nonbelligerency (Hudaybiya) with the Meccans[footnote], he attacked the oasis of Khaybar, one hundred and forty kilometers northwest of Medina, cultivated by another Jewish tribe. The assailants came to the oasis at night and in the morning attacked the peasants as they were coming out to work in the fields, carrying spades and baskets.[footnote] Their palm groves were burned down. After a siege lasting month and a half, the inhabitants surrendered under the terms of a treaty known as the dhimma. According to the agreement Muhammad allowed the Jews to continue cultivating their oasis, on the condition that they ceded to him half of their produce; he also reserved the right to break the agreement and expel them whenever he wished.[footnote] Subsequently, all the Jewish and Christian communities of Arabia submitted to the Muslims under the terms of a dhimma similar to that granted at Khaybar. ...
37 He shall give no heed to the gods of his fathers, [Chemosh, Molech] or to the one beloved by women; [Ashtoreth] he shall not give heed to any other god, for he shall magnify himself above all.
38 He shall honor the god of fortresses instead of these; [Allah] a god whom his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts.
39 He shall deal with the strongest fortresses by the help of a foreign god; [Allah] those who acknowledge him he shall magnify with honor. He shall make them rulers over many and shall divide the land for a price.
2 Kings 23
13 The king also desecrated the high places that were east of Jerusalem on the south of the Hill of Corruption--the ones Solomon king of Israel had built for Ashtoreth the vile goddess of the Sidonians, for Chemosh the vile god of Moab, and for Molech the detestable god of the people of Ammon.
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You're right, I just don't know about how he received the Koran. Either he made the whole thing up (difficult to do I would think since he was an illiterate caravan hijacker...a warlord thief and not a scholar) and dictated the work from his own imagination, basing it on what he'd already heard about Christianity and Judaism. Christianity was thriving in the middles east at this time. Ancient Churches were solidly established at Memphis, Antioch, Philadelphia, Yemen and many other places. They had already received the Gospel and had no need for a 'new' and 'final' prophet.
The other possibility is that an angel DID appear to Mo, but it wasn't Gabriel. It was Lucifer.
Investments in development like Yanbu and Jubail are such a stimulous.
Imagine _ Inspite of the oil revenues Saudi Arabia could have turned into another chaotic mess like some of those countries in Africa that have terrific natural resources. Saudi success has been about their leadership, Islam and friendship with regular America businessmen as opposed to US government.
And instead they managed to produce the wahhabis and very possibly the instigator of World War III. How clever of them.
You're absolutely right! 1500 years of hate and murder and pure evil ahve come around to the destruction of islam. About time.
Whod they side with in WWII? That's more telling about their character.
28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
Go preach this in MuslimLand and see if you last 24 hours. Muslims are the supreme ethnic cleansers of Christians, Jews and other Muslims of the wrong Muslim sect and/or ethnic group. This is the bloody Muslim heritage you salute. Mother's milk for the Jihadistas and the Bin Ladens of this world.
Clearly you don't know what Urea or sulfer is or the value of commercial fertilizers to the development of agri-business in the third world. I'm not surprised as you seem to be more focused on being petty and rude than any exhange of information.
The Arab/Muslim Nazi Connection
Turning the West Bank into another "Bosnia" (Photo Album)
"The era of interim agreements," said Ben-Ami,
"is dead. It only exists in the imagination. The Palestinians
have absolutely no faith in interim agreements, for their
reasons. We are also opposed to them. They have only
given birth to terror and to a Bosnia-like situation
(in the territories)."
-- Israeli Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami
Although there was ample proof to arrest him
[Hajj Amin al Husseini] as a war criminal after
the war, the Allies made no effort to do so... Yugoslavia,
asked for his extradition... but the Arab League and the
Egyptian government succeeded in having the
-- Encyclopedia of the Holocaust
In the 1990's. the Christian Serbs later sought retribution for what they claimed were "massive war crimes" by the Islamic Bosnians during World War II, during the Bosnian-Croatian war in former Yugoslavia.
|Bosnian Moslems wearing fezzes with Nazi insignia
Under the initiative of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem-a powerful Moslem leader exiled in Berlin-Bosnian Moslems volunteered to serve in the ranks of the German Waffen-SS. Their special uniform combined Nazi with Moslem elements
|The Grand Mufti inspects Moslem SS units
Under Husseini's initiative and supervision, Yugoslavian Moslem volunteer units-called "Handjar" (Sword)-joined the German Waffen-SS. They fought Yugoslav partisans in Bosnia and massacred Bosnians and Croatian Jews.
|Bosnian Moslems who volunteered to the German army
Thousands of Bosnian Moslems responded to the Mufti's call and volunteered to serve in the German army. The volunteers wore special uniforms; the Nazi insignia decorated their fezzes (typical moslem hat).
|Nazis review Bosnian Moslem volunteers to the Waffen-SS
In the spring of 1943, Bosnian Moslems, responding to their Mufti's call, volunteered to serve in the German army. They formed their own battalions within the ranks of the Waffen-SS. The Germans publicized the Moslem-German collaboration.
|Bosnian Moslem soldiers in the German army, at prayer
Hajj Amin al Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, allied himself with Nazi Germany. While exiled in Berlin and sponsored by Nazi agencies, he brought to the creation of Moslem battalions within the German Waffen-SS.
|Hajj Amin al-Husseini with Bosnian Moslem fighters
Husseini flew from Berlin to Sarajevo to bless the Moslem army inspect its arms and observe its exercises. Husseini's army in Croatia was comprised of some 20,000 Bosnian Moslems, all of whom volunteered to serve in the German Waffen-SS.
|Bosnian Moslems who volunteered to the German army
Moslems living in Bosnia, Yugoslavia, responded to the call of the exiled grand Mufti of Jerusalem and enlisted as volunteers in the German army. Seen here are uniformed volunteers holding a propaganda brochure: "Islam and Judaism."
|Bosnian Moslems as volunteers in the German army
Hajj Amin al Husseini-the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem exiled in Berlin-planned to create a strong Arabic army and to put it at the disposal of the Axis powers. Eventually, he succeeded in forming Moslem units within the German Waffen-SS.
|Close-up of Nazi officers reviewing Moslem volunteers
Closeup of "Responding to the initiative of the exiled Grand Mufti of Jerusalem", the Germans created separate Moslem battalions within the Waffen-SS. Here, unidentified Nazi dignitaries review the new recruits.
|Bosnian Moslem soldiers in the German army during prayer
During the spring of 1943, some 20,000 Moslem Bosnians responded to the Mufti's call to join the German Waffen-SS. The Moslem volunteers, who served in separate units named "Handjar" (Sword), actively participated in war operations.
|Grand Mufti of Jerusalem
One of the most prominent Arab leaders in Palestine and the Middle East. Some believe that Husseini's collaboration with the Germans was designed to obtain support for Arab national goals from a power that seemed to have good prospects for winning the war. Others link his sympathy for Nazi Germany to his enthusiasim for its anti-Jewish policies, particularly, the Final Solution. Some even perceive a general ideological affinity between totalitarian Fascist and Nazi theories and Islam, as conceived by Husseini.
Pre - War Contacts with the Nazis
After he had broken with Britain, Husseini sent two emissaries to Berlin to make concrete proposals for collaboration. This occurred in December 1937 and in May 1939. As a result, Wilhelm Canaris, chief of the Abwehr supported the Arab uprising in Palestine.
Husseini's Fate is Linked with the Fascist Powers
When World War II broke out, Husseini fled to Iraq, where he contributed to the planning of the pro-Nazi revolt. When the revolt was quelled, he went into exile, first in Italy and then in Germany. From October 1941, Husseini linked his fate with the fascist powers. He also was in touch with the Japanese. He sought to pursue Arab national political goals and lend his support to the Final Solution. For the former he set three main goals: the issuance of a joint German-Italian declaration recognizing the independence of the Arab nations and their unity in federation; the establishment of a center for Arab sabotage and propaganda, under his control; and the formation of an Arab army to fight on the Axis side. The German foreign minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop did not make the declaration Husseini wanted, but in a private letter said much of what Husseini wanted to hear regarding Arabs states under British auspices. Neither did the mufti create the center he had in mind, but he did link himself with Axis intelligence. To demonstrate their support for the idea, the Germans dropped two Arab parachutists over Jericho and five over Mosul, Iraq. Husseini's plan to form an Arab legion failed to gain much response. As of 1942, a small German-Arab training section was created, with 130 men. In November 1944, the Arab legion was set up, but it existed mostly on paper.
A Moslem Leader in the Service of the Nazis
Husseini's contribution to the Axis war effort was more successful in his capacity as a Moslem leader. He recruited and organized Bosnian Muslim battalions in 1943, known as the Handjar (Sword), who were put into the Waffen-SS. They fought partisans in Bosnia, participated in the massacre of civilians there, and carried out police and security duties in Hungary. Husseini also helped boost the fighting morale of the Ostbattaillone.
Husseini's Support of the Final Solution
Husseini's men attended SS training courses and visited Sachsenhausen. At an early stage the mufti was aware of the extermination of the Jews and he tried to persuade the Axis to extend the extermination to North Africa and Palestine. He also repeatedly proprosed the Luftwaffe bomb Tel Aviv. When he found out that efforts were underway to save Jews by means of various barter arrangements, he did all he could to foil them.
After the War - Evading Prosecution
When the war ended, Husseini was arrested in France, but in June 1946, he escaped and made his way to asylum in Egypt. Although there was ample proof to arrest him as a war criminal after the war, the Allies made no effort to do so. They were deterred by Husseini's prestige in the Arab world. In 1946, Yugoslavia, asked for his extradition, but the Arab League and the Egyptian government succeeded in having the demand tabled.
"Encyclopedia of the Holocaust"
Source (both Pictures and Text):
Copyright © 1997, The Simon Wiesenthal Center,
1. The Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini was later the notorious Nazi who mixed Nazi propaganda and Islam. He was wanted for war crimes and the slaughter of Jews in Bosnia by Yugoslavia. His mix of militant propagandizing Islam was an inspriation for both Yasser Arafat and Saddam Husein: He was also a close relative of Yasser Arafat and grandfather of the current Temple Mount Mufti. "Arafat's actual name was Abd al-Rahman abd al-Bauf Arafat al-Qud al-Husseini. He shortened it to obscure his kinship with the notorious Nazi and ex-Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini." Howard M. Sachar, A HISTORY OF ISRAEL (New York: Knopf, 1976). The Bet Agron International Center in Jerusalem interviewed Arafat's brother and sister, who described the Mufti as a cousin (family member) with tremendous influence on young Yassir after the Mufti returned from Berlin to Cairo. Yasser Arafat himself keeps his exact lineage and birthplace secret. Saddam Hussein was raised in the house of his uncle Khayrallah Tulfah, who was a leader in the Mufti's pro-Nazi coup in Iraq in May 1941.
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During World War II Ibn Sa'ud declared his neutrality, though his personal bias in favor of the western allies was never in doubt. In 1945 he somewhat reluctantly agreed to declare war on Germany, and was thus able to take his country into the United Nations organization as a founder member.-- Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1966.
Yep, 'Patria One':
HALL OF SHAME (and name) (latest incarnation 'Patria One')
An interesting concept. We should start applying it immediately to the psychopaths they've sent to infest this country
Ah, but what you seem to think of as "high-tech" isn't exactly what I had in mind. What I was thinking about was more along the line of innovative technology. But high-tech ("traditional") isn't going away, even if the competition is there. If your Arabs are saying that "there's competition, ergo we can't do it", they're dead. And not in the terribly long run either.
Clearly you don't know what Urea or sulfer
Fertilizer comes from a few sources - animal/bird waste, or is produced by throwing some energy at some air. I'm guessing that most, if not all of Saudi's production is animal waste.
rude than any exhange of information.
Well, you don't have much information to exchange, do you? I asked you about tech industry in Saudi, and your answer is that technology is outmoded and that I'm snotty :)).
Pilots, who don't need to know how to take off or land. Bonus, if they are dexterous with box cutters.
Astonished, who always lies, who always gets caught, who always gets booted and who always returns to lie again.
Lies like her heroes (Arafat, Saudis, et al): always, blatantly and without shame.
They already harbor a fanatical hatred of the USA, so what harm could it do? Maybe they'll think allah left town, relax, and get back to goat husbandry or whatever.
Speaking of ethnic cleansing, in the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, which groups charter plainly states their goal of eliminating the other group?