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After attacks, many Southerners fly different flag
The Charleston Post & Courier ^ | October 29, 2001 | ELLEN B. MEACHAM

Posted on 10/29/2001 11:26:49 AM PST by aomagrat

Until recently, if you saw a red, white and blue flag sticker on a Southern pickup truck, odds were good that it was a Confederate flag.

That was before Sept. 11.

In the wake of the terrorist attacks, the once-prominent symbol beloved by both unreconstructed Southern partisans and Civil War buffs has been swamped in a wave of national unity.

American flags are popping up on cars, outside homes and businesses - and even on horse-drawn carriages in the city where the Civil War started.

In Charleston, unlike New York or California, the Stars and Stripes can often be seen displayed beside the controversial Confederate battle flag.

One local bumper sticker even has a message for Osama Bin Laden's terrorist network, "Terrorists: Your soul is the devil's and your butt's America's."

The sticker features a Confederate flag.

Another depicts both the U.S. and the Confederate battle flag and says "red-blooded American."

Area flag merchants say sales of Confederate flags have remained steady even as sales of U.S flags have increased.

"My American flag sales have increased 100-fold," Gary Shelton, president of 1abcstore.com in St. Simons, Ga., said. His Confederate flag sales are about the same.While it might strike some as inconsistent to fly the flag created by people who wanted to dissolve the United States next to the American flag during a time of national crisis, many in the region do not see it that way, says political science Professor Bill Moore of the College of Charleston.

"In general, I don't feel Southerners see it as inconsistent. You do have a few ultra-nationalists who would still like to secede from the Union. However, most of those who maintain a strong identity with the Confederate flag incorporate it into a historical context," he said.

In the Southerner's view, loyalty to the historical South is not necessarily incompatible with contemporary values as Americans, Moore said.

"Collectively, Southerners do tend to be stronger supporters of the military than their non-Southern counterparts and value a military career more," he said.

Also, because of limited immigration into the region and less exposure to different cultures, Southerners can be more parochial and suspicious of foreign populations than other Americans, and are thus more likely to support action on behalf of American interests abroad, he said.

Sen. Glenn McConnell is one of the brokers of the compromise that brought the Confederate flag down from the Statehouse dome to a monument on the Capitol grounds in 2000, and owns a Confederate memorabilia shop in North Charleston.

McConnell's sales of Confederate flags have continued and are unaffected by the terrorist attacks. He says he flies both an American flag and a Confederate flag and sees no inconsistency in his actions.

"We see it as a patriotic emblem of our ancestors, but the nation's moved on since then. We think our ancestors stood up for a Constitutional principle that was still considered an option back then - the issue of whether states can secede from the Union - and the issue was resolved on the battlefield. We had an unpleasant disagreement amongst ourselves, and it was settled. So now, if you punch at the United States, you've struck at all of us," he said.

Some Confederate flag supporters do embrace the flag as a separatist symbol. Before the attacks, neo-Confederate messages, like Southern independence, were said to be gaining traction, especially in the angry wake of several regional controversies. Debates about the removal of the flag from the South Carolina Statehouse, the changing of the Georgia state flag and a contentious vote on the Mississippi state flag riled Southern partisans and fans of Southern history alike.

In 1997, Michael Hill, president of the League of the South, wrote in one of his publications that "the American flag has, in fits and starts, come to stand for a corrupt central regime that increasingly visits upon its citizen-subjects expropriations that would have driven our ancestors to active resistance."

Hill said he considers himself an American, and he claims that Southerners are more American than people from other regions. He said the Confederate flag is the flag that truly represents states' rights and a Constitutional government.

On the other hand, the Sons of Confederate Veterans, a group that also has been on the forefront in the battles over the public display of the Confederate flag, took a much different position.

After the attacks, the SCV's national commander-in-chief, Ed Deason, immediately issued a statement on behalf of its 30,000 members expressing sympathy and support of President Bush, Congress and the government and affirmed its intentions to "join all patriotic Americans."

That move is harmonious with the organization's mission, spokeswoman Lynda Moreau said.

"We were chartered over 100 years ago as a patriotic and benevolent organization. Our mission is to defend the good name of the Confederate soldier. The SCV does not advocate secession," she said.

Many of its current members are veterans who fought in the armed forces during wartime.

"They fought for this country, and they stand behind it. That doesn't mean they honor the Confederate flag any less. They honor both," she said.

The Rev. Joe Darby of the Morris Avenue Missionary Baptist Church in Charleston, who is first vice president of the state National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, views the issue differently. The NAACP continues its efforts to boycott the state because of the location of the flag on the Statehouse grounds and will raise it, as well as other issues, again in the next legislative session.

To Darby, the Confederate flag is a symbol of disunity in a time when the nation's citizens should come together.

"We need to be unified at a time like this. While I don't think everyone who flies it (the battle flag) is a member of a hate group, I would not fly it. When I see it, I see a symbol of white, antebellum unity. That leaves me out of the picture," he said.

Darby acknowledges that there are South Carolinians who see no conflict in flying both flags.

"What do I think when I see both flags flying together? I guess I rejoice that we live in a country where people can hold strange views," he said.

Since the Civil War, major events such as the terrorist attacks have moved Southerners toward a stronger view of themselves as Americans first and Southerners second, even if they created some subconscious tugs between regional and national loyalties along the way, writes Charles Reagan Wilson in his 1980 book "Baptized in Blood: The Religion of the Lost Cause, 1865-1920."

"The Spanish American War and World War II provided the perfect backdrop for Southern ministers to identify again with the values of the American nation," he writes.

"In 1917 the raising of Old Glory on Jefferson Davis Parkway in New Orleans became a symbolic event marking renewed patriotism. Ministers even wrote poems praising the flag, although acceptance of the prime symbol of national unity created a tension with continuing adoration for the equally potent Confederate battle flag," Wilson writes.

One Southern writer of the time, according to Wilson, suggested "that Southerners should still 'consecrate in our hearts our old battle flag of the Southern Cross'," but that it should be honored not as '"a political symbol, but as the consecrated emblem of a heroic epoch.'"

In Charleston, evidence of those competing loyalties still remains.

Until May, the Old South Carriage Company downtown displayed three flags, the United States flag, the state flag and the Confederate flag. However, the flags were stolen on Mother's Day weekend and have not yet been replaced, manager Kay Motley said. When they are replaced, one flag will still represent the Confederacy, but it will be another, less controversial flag, she said.

The company currently displays an American flag inside its barn and quickly put American flags on its carriages after the terrorist attacks.

"We're proud of our Southern heritage. Our company is named Old South, but we are patriotic enough to add American flags to our carriages at a time like this," Motley said.


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Since the Civil War, major events such as the terrorist attacks have moved Southerners toward a stronger view of themselves as Americans first and Southerners second

Nothing brings Americans together quicker than a cowardly sneak attack.

1 posted on 10/29/2001 11:26:49 AM PST by aomagrat
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2 posted on 10/29/2001 11:31:35 AM PST by Constitution Day
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3 posted on 10/29/2001 11:33:41 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: aomagrat
I fly both flags .... Stars and Stripes because I AM an American FIRST ... I fly the stars and Bars cause I believe in states rights tempered with a SMALL federal government
4 posted on 10/29/2001 11:36:32 AM PST by clamper1797
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To: aomagrat

5 posted on 10/29/2001 11:38:35 AM PST by Sparticle
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To: aomagrat
"Collectively, Southerners do tend to be stronger supporters of the military than their non-Southern counterparts and value a military career more," he said

Seems as if the rest of the country is finally coming around to our grand way of thinking.

6 posted on 10/29/2001 11:39:49 AM PST by PeaRidge
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To: Constitution Day
Thanks for the ping!

To Darby, the Confederate flag is a symbol of disunity in a time when the nation's citizens should come together.

"We need to be unified at a time like this. While I don't think everyone who flies it (the battle flag) is a member of a hate group, I would not fly it. When I see it, I see a symbol of white, antebellum unity. That leaves me out of the picture," he said.

How generous of Darby not to think all of us are members of a hate group. Silly boy.

7 posted on 10/29/2001 11:49:13 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: Sparticle
And I love the city of New York as well. BTW, the city of New York at the beginning of the WONA was willing and prepared to secede with the South.

May God bless Dixie and FWIW the flag of freedom flies over my house and not the flag of EMPIRE. Although I do say the Pledge of Allegiance in public, I do omit the one word

8 posted on 10/29/2001 11:50:46 AM PST by billbears
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To: aomagrat
Until recently, if you saw a red, white and blue flag sticker on a Southern pickup truck, odds were good that it was a Confederate flag...Well maybe on SOUTHERN pickups, but the ones I see on most of the ones you "SANDLAPPERS" drive are either a stupid garnet chicken proclaiming "Go Cocks" or an ugly ornage and white polecat paw heralding 'Tigers"! You folks need to get yourselves a real good Southern football (Gators, Bulldogs, Vols, Bama, Rebel, 'Noles, Tarheels, Jackets, Hokies, etc.) team!
9 posted on 10/29/2001 11:59:10 AM PST by meandog
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To: meandog

GO COCKS!!!!!!!
10 posted on 10/29/2001 12:02:29 PM PST by aomagrat
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To: billbears
BTW, the city of New York at the beginning of the WONA was willing and prepared to secede with the South.

Really? Got any details on that?

11 posted on 10/29/2001 12:08:29 PM PST by NovemberCharlie
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To: NovemberCharlie
Yes, I've got a couple articles out of the New York papers and some of the leaders of the time. Will post them this evening. It had to do with the outrageous tax levels the federal government was looking for not only in Southern ports but in the city of New York as well
12 posted on 10/29/2001 12:14:16 PM PST by billbears
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To: billbears
"...I do omit the one word."

I just omit the prefix for that particular word... just my $0.02.

13 posted on 10/29/2001 12:18:05 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: PeaRidge
"..."Collectively, Southerners do tend to be stronger supporters of the military than their non-Southern counterparts and value a military career more..."

"...Our Way of Thinking..."

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YEP !!!



14 posted on 10/29/2001 12:25:28 PM PST by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: aomagrat
You know, this is news only if you held the mistaken belief that the Confederate flags were displayed as symbols of hate. To me, this article provides proof that it is used as a symbol of heritage. An attack on buildings in New York would NOT cause a Southerner filled with hate to suddenly begin supporting America. That shows that it has never been about hate and that we do love our country. What we don't like is people looking down on us and telling us how to live our lives or run our states.
15 posted on 10/29/2001 12:28:32 PM PST by Lee'sGhost
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16 posted on 10/29/2001 12:30:39 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Lee'sGhost
..."Confederate flags were displayed as symbols of hate."

Those people need to take a look at pictures taken I have seen of KKK rallies when they were at their apex (early 20th century).

Can you guess what flag they were flying?

Hint: NOT the Confederate battle flag... or any other CSA flag.

17 posted on 10/29/2001 12:33:03 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
"pictures taken I have seen"

It's been a long day. Give me a break.

18 posted on 10/29/2001 12:34:09 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
Gee, I got this picture off of the American Knights of the KKK website. It's a tee shirt that they sell. So what is that pictured in the background? Behind the guys with the pillowcases on their heads?

And here is a link to a Texas Klan chapter. What's that flying proudly in the upper right hand corner? Why it's the confederate battle flag.

Here's another link to the National Knights of the KKK. Same flag, different location

Like it or not your banner has been appropriated by some pretty crummy organizations and I don't hear y'all complaining about it much

19 posted on 10/29/2001 12:51:31 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Then shame on them for mis-using our flag. You know that flag doesn't stand for hate---its heritage. I get angered by them co-opting that flag to their petty cause. Sometimes I think its a danged conspiracy. ;)
20 posted on 10/29/2001 12:55:51 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: billbears
"indivisible"?
21 posted on 10/29/2001 12:58:08 PM PST by Thumper1960
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To: JMJ333
I was angered by Constitution Day's implications. I will retract my suggestion that the confederate flag stands for anything but what ever it is you say it stands for...heritage or whatever.
22 posted on 10/29/2001 1:03:44 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Sparticle
I'm a subscriber. The only thing that would improve that much maligned magazine is if it had a website..last time I checked, it did not.
23 posted on 10/29/2001 2:05:25 PM PST by kaylar
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To: kaylar
Try again. The link is right here .
24 posted on 10/29/2001 2:08:33 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Like it or not your banner has been appropriated by some pretty crummy organizations and I don't hear y'all complaining about it much

Yea, and your yankee flag has flown over some pretty sorry things too... the brutal attacks on peaceful, soverign nations like Yugoslavia, the CSA, etc, Mai Lai, Wounded Knee, Waco, Ruby Ridge. The list goes on and on.

Lets ban that evil yankee flag and make it a hate crime to display it, OK?

25 posted on 10/29/2001 2:23:26 PM PST by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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To: aomagrat
If you have a confederate flag on your pickup truck as a "symbol of southern heritage" you might as well have a picture of shackles and chains.
26 posted on 10/29/2001 2:28:49 PM PST by Hans Moleman
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To: Non-Sequitur
Like it or not your banner has been appropriated by some pretty crummy organizations and I don't hear y'all complaining about it much

Much the same with the Koran and the Bible. Could we get some muslims denouncing the Taliban and the concept of a Jihad? Not the notion that this is an unjust holy war, that there is no just holy war.

27 posted on 10/29/2001 2:31:05 PM PST by weegee
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To: JMJ333
Then shame on them for mis-using our flag. You know that flag doesn't stand for hate---its heritage.

Get over it. The South Lost the Civil War and their symbols should have faded away with the Confederacy. Your nostalgic obsession with the Confederacy would be like Germans flying the Nazi flag because they wanted to respect their heritage.

29 posted on 10/29/2001 2:47:26 PM PST by Dr. Pepper
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To: Dr. Pepper
Your nostalgic obsession with the Confederacy would be like Germans flying the Nazi flag because they wanted to respect their heritage.

My nostalgic obsession? Some of us have family who fought valiently in that war and are buried like dogs in a mound at places like Shiloh. You compare the confederacy to the nazis? Are you so stupid that you don't know the stars and bars never flew over any slavery? It was a BATTLE FLAG. All I ask for is that my heritage isn't spit on and torn down by my fellow Americans, but that is asking a lot, I'm sure.

Your petty little mind can't grasp the fact that the WONA had more than one causation. Want to guess which flag it was when the slave ships pulled into port on the African coast?

30 posted on 10/29/2001 2:54:49 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: Dr. Pepper
Get over it. The South Lost the Civil War and their symbols should have faded away with the Confederacy.

Being a newbie here, you haven't realized that the confederacy is very much alive in the hearts of southerners--especially southern freepers. Why don't you stop listening to that propaganda line fed to you by the mainstream press and publk skewls and educate yourself before belittling the struggle for limited government.

31 posted on 10/29/2001 3:02:23 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
My family is from New Orleans and I am well aware of what the Union did to the South during the WONA. However, I understand that the war ended 136 years ago and that the South lost. I also understand that it is our human heritage to accept views of those who conquer our nation. Therefore, Germans do not fly the Nazi Flag, the Japanese do not fly the Imperial Japanese Flag, and the nice people of English heritage in the New England states do not fly the Union Jack. They all lost their Wars and the Stars and Bars is a symbol of the ignorance and intolerance of the South.
32 posted on 10/29/2001 4:03:10 PM PST by Dr. Pepper
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To: Dr. Pepper
the Japanese do not fly the Imperial Japanese Flag

The famous "sunburst" flag of the Japanese Empire is now the naval ensign of Japan and flies over all of their warships. I have seen if flying over Japanese ships making a port visit in Pearl Harbor HI.

33 posted on 10/29/2001 4:18:50 PM PST by aomagrat
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To: JMJ333
Being a newbie here, you haven't realized that the confederacy is very much alive in the hearts of southerners--especially southern freepers

Ever since Reconstruction we have heard the belly aching of the white people of the South whining about how the rest of America does not understand their heritage.

Back in the 1960's we did not understand the Southern heritage of forcing African Americans to ride in the back of the bus and we did not understand that proud heritage of segregation of public schools. We did not understand the heritage of turning fire hoses and police dogs on the Freedom Marchers and did not understand the heritage of white Southerners burning down African American Churches. We did not understand the heritage of the white people of the South not permitting African Americans to vote and do not understand why you would pay alliance to a system that oppressed people simply because the color of their skin.

Not only did the White people of the South lose the Civil War but they lost the war of Civil Rights! The next war they will lose will be the war of Demographics when the White Folk become a minority in the South! When that day comes I hope the African Americans who are in power have more intelligence and compassion then your heritage.

34 posted on 10/29/2001 4:24:34 PM PST by Dr. Pepper
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To: Dr. Pepper
They all lost their Wars and the Stars and Bars is a symbol of the ignorance and intolerance of the South.

Wrong. Try a symbol of rebellion against federal tyranny, a symbol for states rights and limited government, a symbol for adherence to the constitution. What? You don't find these things worth keeping alive? I suppose you think a big bloated federal bureacracy is wonderful.

The war of 1861-1865 was less about slavery than it was all about how the Tenth Amendment is defined by the person with the most powerful army.

The results of that war still affect all Americans today. Do you complain about how the federal government willfully ignores the rights of states every day. And if the whole mess was about slavery, then we must be still fighting; else the wrong side won the battle against slavery and involuntary servitude.

Being over-taxed to keep officials fat and happy enough to take more of my rights away against my will is involuntary servitude.

Most likely the majority of Americans agree with you, which is why we'll never see a constitional republic again.

35 posted on 10/29/2001 4:42:37 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: Dr. Pepper
The next war they will lose will be the war of Demographics when the White Folk become a minority in the South! When that day comes I hope the African Americans who are in power have more intelligence and compassion then your heritage.

Oh please. You show your ignorance. Slavery is wrong. We got it. Compassion? Too bad the 500,000 slaves that came here didn't get to go to the middle east instead.

In the Arab world African slaves were highly prized as eunuchs. They were used as guardians of harems and as civil servants, some of whom amassed considerable power. But many young African men died in the process because of inept or infected castration. Now THAT'S compassion! /sarcasm

36 posted on 10/29/2001 4:48:09 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
Dr. Pepper member since October 16th, 2001

37 posted on 10/29/2001 4:59:06 PM PST by thulldud
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To: Non-Sequitur
The KKK are to Christianity and Southerners what the Taliban are to Islam and afghanis.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LoanPalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

38 posted on 10/29/2001 5:02:05 PM PST by LonePalm
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To: Hans Moleman
Would that apply to my import sedan as well??
39 posted on 10/29/2001 5:05:11 PM PST by Ready2signup
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To: Hans Moleman
If you have a confederate flag on your pickup truck as a "symbol of southern heritage" you might as well have a picture of shackles and chains.

If you have an American flag on my car does that mean you support bombing aspirin factories in the sudan?

40 posted on 10/29/2001 5:08:25 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
on my car= on your car
41 posted on 10/29/2001 5:09:17 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: Non-Sequitur
As a Southerner I am disgusted at the Klan and other "hate groups" appropriation of the Stars and Bars as "their" symbol.

The Stars and Bars is a part of a hertiage that my ancestors gave their lives to defend. All the Klansmen from hell cannot change the valor and loyalty to country that was given in defense of a nation.

42 posted on 10/29/2001 5:10:06 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: JMJ333
Oh please. You show your ignorance. Slavery is wrong. We got it. Compassion? Too bad the 500,000 slaves that came here didn't get to go to the middle east instead.

We both agree that slavery was wrong but do you believe that the South's resistance to the Civil Rights Movement was wrong?

By they way, when you can only compare your culture to Middle Eastern Culture you are not doing a very good job defending your heritage.

43 posted on 10/29/2001 5:17:57 PM PST by Dr. Pepper
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To: Constitution Day

Aw, Shucks!


44 posted on 10/29/2001 5:25:53 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: aomagrat
The reality is we as a nation were on the brink of war, between two ideological halves in this country, during the campaign coup.

Yes, the country was 100% on track for the second round of internal war.

Had Gore pressed forward in the election, despite exhausing all legal appeals, the educated citizenry, who had knowledge of the overwealming evidence indicating his treasonist ties, would have done their duty and cast off the corrupt government!

However, this is where our enemies failed to understand our people, as they saw us divided and weak as never before in their eyes!

This was their biggest Mistake!

The founding fathers were clear that any national government should be for our common defense, this is why, since the attacks, everyone is rallying around the flag.

We have witnessed in our modern times, the cause of both forms of government, and the problems with all government, that power corrupts.

The southern cause as we have learned was more a cause of states rights, and a people who failed to stray from the strict interpretation of the constitution.

The fears of the founders, as stated in the Federalist Papers, were correct in the fact that a federal system consolidates too much power, and under corrupt administrations cannot be trusted.

However, during war time, as we have learned through battle, a strong central government is necessary for efficiently managing and coordinating a war effort.

Therefore, we now recognize the good and the bad that can come with both forms of government.

They both have drawbacks and shortcomings.

In light of our discoveries, our citizenry has rediscovered freedoms meaning and the values our founders instilled in the drafting of the documentation for which we set out to construct of Republic.

Today I fly both flags, although recently I only flew the Confederate flag!

I flew the flag because of oppressive government intrusion and abuse of power, due to the usurpations of the past administration.

The Confederacy is the last insurance against all failed checks and balances of government corruption!

When our war campaign is complete, we will return to civilized peace time behavior as a country.

We must continue the work of downsizing of the government, and return the power to the states where it rightly resides.

As history repeats, we will consolidate power in time of war, although during peace time it should be dissolved.

However, we will never allow the constitution to be superseded, and reserve all rights to cast off any corrupt government!

We must be weary of any international entanglements that will claim to destroy our sovereignty and the rights of individuals.

The Confederate flag, and the southern people have every right to be very proud of their heritage, and resolve to maintaining the principles of the founders!

THE
STATE
OF
THE
CONFEDERACY
IS
UNITED!


45 posted on 10/29/2001 5:31:05 PM PST by Soul Citizen
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To: Dr. Pepper
I wasn't comparing my culture. I was telling you reality. We had 500,000 slaves come to America. That is in comparison to some 4,000,000 that went to Brazil by the Portuguese, 2,500,000 to Spanish possessions, 2,000,000 to the British West Indies, and 1,600,000 to the French West Indies. Not to mention the ones who went to the middle-east--and are still being sold into slavery in the Sudan and Mauritania.

Now, don't leave out the northern slave states like Delaware who fought on the side of the north. It wasn't just the racist southerners who engaged in slavery, you know.

You could also explain why the non-racist government of Lincoln issued executive orders to lynch 69 Indians in Minnesota, and 88 blacks in New York City, and had a conscription policy that sent northern states into an upheaval. And if it was all about us being racists then explain why the U.S. Supreme Court declared that putting the South under martial law ['reconstruction'] was unconstitutional in 1876.

My point is that the causations of that war are not as clear cut as you think.

46 posted on 10/29/2001 5:32:47 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: aomagrat
"Until recently, if you saw a red, white and blue flag sticker on a Southern pickup truck, odds were good that it was a Confederate flag." (Charleston Post)

Bull. I still see plenty of Confederate flags on vehicles here in the Burlington, North Carolina area - one on my sedan.

Also, at a gun show in Lexington Oct. 20-21, at least half the bumper stickers being sold had CSA themes - many openly Southern-separatist.

Southerner and proud of it.

47 posted on 10/29/2001 5:34:31 PM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: Dr. Pepper
We both agree that slavery was wrong but do you believe that the South's resistance to the Civil Rights Movement was wrong?

What does that have to do with the causation of the WONA? I'm not up for bait and switch.

48 posted on 10/29/2001 5:38:06 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
The war of 1861-1865 was less about slavery than it was all about how the Tenth Amendment is defined by the person with the most powerful army.

I've hear this argument from Southerners frequently. White southerners, that is.
49 posted on 10/29/2001 5:39:17 PM PST by Belial
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To: JMJ333
Answer the Question. Should it be in a state’s power to reject the dictates of the National Government and segregate minorities and deny them the right to vote?
50 posted on 10/29/2001 5:45:03 PM PST by Dr. Pepper
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