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The Cholesterol Myths: Exposing the Fallacy that Saturated Fat and Cholesterol Cause Heart Disease ^ | Review: [Joel M. Kauffman, Research Professor Chemistry]; Book: [Uffe Ravnskov, M. D., Ph. D.]

Posted on 10/30/2001 9:25:13 AM PST by sourcery

Edited on 07/22/2005 11:03:05 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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Had a friend who bragged about eating massive amounts of meet. At the time his mother was in the hospital for heart disease.

And the connection is what?

Where would one find this "meet?"

21 posted on 10/30/2001 10:59:13 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: HiTech RedNeck
In the Introduction and Epilogue of this book, Dr. Ravnskov invites the reader to study original papers and follow the arguments.

You did read this, right?

22 posted on 10/30/2001 11:04:44 AM PST by jedi
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And see: Weston A Price Foundation
23 posted on 10/30/2001 11:08:56 AM PST by dbbeebs
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To: irish_lad
I take it you're Irish.

I read a study a number of years ago questioning why the farmers of Ireland - who ate a typical high-fat diet of bacon, butter, milk - did not die of heart disease.

I hope they were right.

24 posted on 10/30/2001 3:55:04 PM PST by snopercod
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To: First_Salute
I couldn't get you link to work, but since I built the wife and I a little kitchen in our log home, I've been baking biscuits for breakfast every day.

Only 1/2 cup of Crisco per seven biscuits...not counting the bacon, cheese, and egg...

26 posted on 10/30/2001 3:57:14 PM PST by snopercod
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To: innocentbystander
There was a Dr. Adkins thread here the other day. Dr. "A" says the same thing about eating meat and oils.
27 posted on 10/30/2001 4:14:44 PM PST by BRK
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To: RnMomof7; That Poppins Woman; snopercod
I hang out around Santa Fe on occasion, and I have heard the humming, there, as well.

It waxes and wanes, but especially in the right kind of structures, the sound is a bit amplified by it seems, the nature of a roof --- it is sort of a drum head that resonates with the hum.

The hum is a lot like a railroad engine or river tow boat (uses the same engines by the way) heard through the ground from a very long distance.

For example, here in central Ohio, on a very calm night, I can hear the railroad engines at a freight yard, five miles away, when the engines are at idle.

Christmas day, bright and early, in 1993, I even detected a bad bearing in one of the engines. It was extremely cold outside, and nobody was on the road.

But I was determined to track down the sound coming from my bedroom wall.

I left the house and traveled west, occasionally stopping to get out of the car and give a listen.

Well, miles from here, I found a frieight train engine which a crew had left idling, and the engine had the bad bearing.

I left them a note on their windshield, regarding same.

Probably, the sound made its way here, because the whole area has an underlying limestone rock bed. The bed is lower, underground, near the freight yards, but it is exposed, here, where the soils are quite thin.

While I have not heard the humming in Taos, because I have not been up that way, I have heard the humming in the Santa Fe / Los Alamos area.

The caldera of which the mountain, Redondo, is prominent, making up part of a very large, and ancient volcano-appearing hole in the earth, and also next to which Los Alamos is built, might instead of being a "pure" volcano, actually be an ancient impact crater, where the crust was cracked well enough to evoke a volcanic reaction.

It much more looks like an impact crater --- very much like those on the moon.

Sometimes, it seems that whatever real impact that great meteorite had, the consequences still resound.


28 posted on 10/30/2001 4:28:26 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: snopercod
Crisco is the original man-made "partially hydrogenated" fat--in other words, a trans-fatty acid. There is some concern that artificial trans-fatty acids may be especially harmful to cardiovascular health. There is much dispute over this issue. Personally, I'd rather be safe than sorry.
29 posted on 10/30/2001 8:13:13 PM PST by sourcery
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If that's the best you can do in terms of criticism than the article seems to have a lot to recommend it. It may say Newbury Naturals on the bottom but both the author and reviewer appear to have PhDs in science research.

For those who follow this stuff, Atkins has been criticized for a long time for not providing enough studies to support his data. He has been saying recently that those studies are coming and his critics will finally be silenced. This book looks like a step in that direction. I will read if for sure. I'm glad this was posted. Bump!

30 posted on 10/30/2001 8:28:34 PM PST by PianoMan
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To: SubSailor
Hallelujah! I'm going to Famous Dave's tonight and celebrate this news with a big platter of ribs!

Can't have any beer with that though. The carbs are deadly!

31 posted on 10/30/2001 8:30:22 PM PST by PianoMan
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To: babyfreep; scan59
bump for later and *ping* to you, scan59
32 posted on 10/30/2001 8:36:05 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: That Poppins Woman
Eating my favorite snack right now. A STICK OF BUTTER!
33 posted on 10/30/2001 8:41:31 PM PST by Ordie 1
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To: That Poppins Woman
Too much sugar weakens your immune system ... something that needs to be kept very strong these days.

I much prefer the meat, Italian, beans & ham hock, chocolate malt and southern-style sugared tea diet... add enough garlic to the main courses and it reboots the immune system just fine (sugar or no sugar). The tannin in the tea cuts the carcinogens in the BBQed stuff, and the ham hocks deter terrorists, LOL.

34 posted on 10/30/2001 8:58:15 PM PST by piasa
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To: RnMomof7
35 posted on 10/31/2001 4:58:24 AM PST by That Poppins Woman
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To: First_Salute
Interesting observation. You may be right.
36 posted on 10/31/2001 5:02:12 AM PST by That Poppins Woman
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To: sourcery
"To find out how egg consumption influenced my own blood cholesterol, I once used myself as a human guinea pig without asking the ethics committee at my university. Before and during the experiment I analyzed my [total serum] cholesterol. My usual egg consumption is one or two eggs per day, and my cholesterol value at the start of the experiment was 278 mg/dL, very close to a determination of blood cholesterol made 10 years earlier." On day 0, Dr. Ravnskov ate 1 egg; on day 1, 4 eggs; on day 3, 6 eggs; and on days 3-8, 8 eggs per day! "The data from my daring experiment showed that instead of going up, my cholesterol went down a little [to 246 mg/dL]."

Probably true. They just found a natural lipid in eggs that blocks the absorption of 100% the cholesterol in the egg and probably anything else you eat with eggs.

And this morning I saw a blurb on TV about a study that links long distance running with heart disease, because of the resulting inflammation.

37 posted on 10/31/2001 5:13:15 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: Moonman62
Yeaaaaah! Great news for those of us who celebrate good eatin', thinkin', and a sedentary lifestyle.

Now, if only someone could prove that cigarette smoking makes you immune to bioterrorist weapons. ;-)

38 posted on 10/31/2001 5:19:26 AM PST by aristotleman
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To: piasa
So, when am I invited for dinner?
39 posted on 10/31/2001 5:34:25 AM PST by That Poppins Woman
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To: That Poppins Woman
Maybe when the Freeper cookbook comes out we can all get together down here in Florida and plot ways to create havoc with good old-fashioned cooking.
40 posted on 10/31/2001 6:29:45 AM PST by piasa
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