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How many jumped from the WTC towers?

Posted on 10/31/2001 3:16:12 PM PST by ErnBatavia

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To: pbear8
Never mind that most of these guys went to school here and have major investments in the US. (who are the idiots?)

Just after he died, I heard that he had had a heart attack. Then the story was muddled up...anyone know for sure?

151 posted on 10/31/2001 6:16:36 PM PST by MadEagle
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To: MadEagle
Oops...wrong cut and paste on the italics. Sorry about that.
152 posted on 10/31/2001 6:17:26 PM PST by MadEagle
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To: MARTIAL MONK
that bears repeating:

...Anything less is a tribute to our compassion, not an indication of our lack of resolve.

153 posted on 10/31/2001 6:19:18 PM PST by tomkat
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To: mware
Father Mike died of a heart attack while ministering last rites to a firefighter.

Ah, here we go. That's what I heard, too.

154 posted on 10/31/2001 6:19:24 PM PST by MadEagle
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To: longleaf
One of the news reports mentioned a day care center being in one of the towers.
155 posted on 10/31/2001 6:21:34 PM PST by skr
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To: Clara Lou
It has occurred to me that at least the families of those who jumped (and were photographed) know how their loved ones died, and that may be some small consolation. It was very quick--probably a matter of seconds; and then it was over.

More difficult is the processing of the event by those who can only guess how their dear ones died. There were many who were trapped in pockets of rubble, literally buried alive. How much more agonizing to think of a husband, wife, son or daughter dying slowly this way.

I know a priest who was called to the scene to give last rites. He was warned by the firemen, "Father, don't expect to find whole bodies." He went through, as on a battlefield, blessing limbs, skulls, feet, hands. Then he came upon a finger with a wedding band. At that point he broke down completely and had to leave the scene.

Never forget!

156 posted on 10/31/2001 6:21:52 PM PST by Palladin
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To: WIladyconservative
The beloved police/fire chaplain that was killed in the towers was hit by a jumper. Has anyone else heard that?

According to an article in the Mens Journal the following is what happened. "Father Judge was standing beneath Tower Two. In the smokey sky, a woman was plumeting from the top floors hurtling to her death. Her long free fall ended when she crashed into an unidentified fireman who was working nearby. Father Judge hastened over to the man. His life was ebbing. When Judge removed his own helmet to perform last rites, he was pelted by a rain of debris." "Later in the day, fireman pulled him from the rubble, his slumped body coated in a fine gray talc. They carried him to Saint Peter's, the oldes Roman Catholic Church in Manhattan, and laid him on th alter. Then they shrouded him in a white sheet and placed his helmet on his chest. Father Judge was the first recorded fatality in the Twin Towers tragedy. Literally, his death certificate was stamped "1". "

Father Mycal Judge was a legend in New York. He was well known for placing himself in situations where he was needed the most; despite the danger. He was a hero in every sense of the word.

157 posted on 10/31/2001 6:22:39 PM PST by suijuris
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To: austingirl
Thanks for the link to that site. I put it in my favorites and will watch it to remind me, my family, and friends.
159 posted on 10/31/2001 6:29:30 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules
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To: TexasKamaAina
people simply DO react more strongly to the images of the jumpers which means, yes, pictures of them CAN help to sustain the public's resolve to see this war through.

All right. That sounds sensible. Thanks.

160 posted on 10/31/2001 6:31:20 PM PST by Sandy
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To: ErnBatavia
How many jumped from the WTC towers?

What are you, some kind of nut case that gets off on the numbers ?

The answer is TOO MANY. It was indeed tragic watching the news footage of these poor soals jumping ... leave it be.

161 posted on 10/31/2001 6:35:05 PM PST by ~Peter
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To: austingirl
Yes, this site takes a long while to load . . . and a long while to watch. It is very definitely worth the wait!

I thank you so much for sharing. And I encourage everyone here to take the time to watch this: here it is again It should be forwarded to anyone who even dares to question why we're bombing those B*******.

162 posted on 10/31/2001 6:36:34 PM PST by Arizona
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To: mware
>> Father Mike died of a heart attack while ministering last rites to a firefighter. <<

WRONG. Father Judge was killed when a jumper landed on him.

163 posted on 10/31/2001 6:36:34 PM PST by jaime1959
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To: ~Peter
Your last name Jennings?
164 posted on 10/31/2001 6:37:20 PM PST by kempo
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To: Palladin
First time in his life it ever happened!

You are indeed a sick puppy.

I'm agast that ANYONE could fine ANY humor in this tragic death.

165 posted on 10/31/2001 6:40:16 PM PST by ~Peter
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To: Osinski
I, too, must disagree with you. The members of the liberal media think nothing of pasting photographs of any Afghan child with a band-aid all over the front page of the newspaper in order to garner sympathy for the terrorists. America should see, must see, the photographs of those who jumped, and photographs of the torn limbs and torsos of all the innocents who had their lives cut short. Such photographs would be painfully graphic, to be sure, but in seeing those photographs, America will not forget.
166 posted on 10/31/2001 6:42:55 PM PST by Roselani
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To: BunnySlippers
Thanks. The facts are very confused. Supposedly the choppers were ready to pick up people but did not. At any rate, this was a disaster caused by evil criminal minds.
167 posted on 10/31/2001 6:48:12 PM PST by Chemnitz
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To: ErnBatavia
1986 PSU National Championship QB Describes People Jumping from WTC Towers
168 posted on 10/31/2001 6:48:22 PM PST by StopGlobalWhining
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To: Steven W.
bump
169 posted on 10/31/2001 6:50:49 PM PST by tom paine 2
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To: TexasKamaAina
I think what horrifies us about the jumpers is the terrible choice they had to make: be burned to death or jump. They were forced to participate in their own murder

You are absolutely right. I hadn't thought of it that way, and now it makes me even more sick...didn't think I could be more outraged.

Thank you. All of us need to keep these sentiments alive.

170 posted on 10/31/2001 6:56:42 PM PST by MadEagle
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To: error99
"...photos should NOT be covered up..."
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DITTO!!!!
If more American Remains were shown on these Precious Major Media....The Fire Of Patriotism would grow to an Inferno.
That's just something that the Dewey-Trained, Mass-Media, Money-Holders just can not allow...

...that just might upset the UN....

171 posted on 10/31/2001 6:59:25 PM PST by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: ErnBatavia
This is an e- mail I got from a friend a couple of days after the attack.

This terrorist attack is really hitting close to home. Here are three stories from people we know!

(I edited out the first two storys and include the third story because it is relevant to this thread.-Tom)

It's late and as you can see, I've been through a lot. Please excuse the spelling.... This is the ----NOTE version: I am okay. I was in a meting on the 39th floor of the WTC1 at 8:30 on 9/11/01. The explosion hit and we ALL thought it was an earthquake.

Once it was established it was NOT an earthquake but some kind of explosion from above, we started to climb the stairs down... There was one man on the 30th floor in a wheel chair. An obese woman who couldn't walk and because of the smoke in the stairwell she had to stop and hold up traffic ... it was utterly chaotic, but immeasurably under control. No one panicked. NEVER did it get wild.... People took their time and worked together to help and assist one another... But obviously many perished... There were 1000 decisions I made, and many were counter to what should have been done.

The only reason I'm alive is because the lord told me and showed me how to get out. Seriously!!! I was going to stop on floor 20 and sit-it-out until the "smoke cleared" and get out later.... I decided not to and to stay in the flow and go to the bottom of the staircase, despite the smoke and burning eyes...

There was a man in a wheel chair who was stuck in the stairwell. He could neither go up, down or get back in to the area he came from. There was an enormously fat woman who could not breath and was stuck on the 25th floor wheezing out of control. I'm sure neither ever made it out of the building...

It was pretty bad..... I watched as one man and ten seconds later a woman jumped to their deaths from the 95th floor. I said out loud; "this is NOT entertainment!!!! I am not going to watch people jump to their deaths...."(My italics-Tom)

And walked away and headed to 34th street with a friend. I then found the trains were open to Conn. and took a train to ---in Greenwich.

I stayed the night, rented a car today, Wednesday and drove to see -----in Natick (his house) and home to Beverly to see --. I am very very lucky to be alive.

Many were not so lucky. I was only a step away at any one moment... Horrible. But I am alive.

Love to all - I'm just too exhausted to write any more. Love ---.

172 posted on 10/31/2001 7:00:58 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: ErnBatavia
Oh God!, I think the media is so phoney to keep this from us they are afraid that many more would support our reslove.

I know in my heart they are working agaist this nation(USA) Westin etc.If these pictures were of Afganistan we would see over and over.

I know in one way out respect this is not wholesome yet we must keep our focus and not let it get diluted. I wish we could shut down they avenues that try to shape our thinking-

Fox News Channel does more than most to give us the whole truth, but in many areas they lock step with the others. Only talk radio and the internet give us a choose to discern both sides.

173 posted on 10/31/2001 7:03:36 PM PST by restornu
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To: austingirl
911 website - very powerful images, very tearful memories of the events, very moving experience to see the faces of the victims of the terrorist attacks. Thanks for sharing this. We must NEVER FORGET!
174 posted on 10/31/2001 7:07:04 PM PST by Angelwood
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To: WIladyconservative
Yes, I heard that as well. The Chaplain was giving last rites to the firefighters going in and a body slammed him and that is how he got killed.
175 posted on 10/31/2001 7:08:12 PM PST by missanne
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To: ErnBatavia
Here is a link to a site that has the Univision video clips of the WTC jumpers. This is a pretty twisted web site so be warned. They have pictures and about 5 video clips of the jumpers.

WTC jumper clips

176 posted on 10/31/2001 7:20:06 PM PST by finnman69
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To: tomkat
god help me, but it's a titanic task not to hate every swarthy one of them...

I know what you mean ... I don't even know if it's a task worth the effort :-(

177 posted on 10/31/2001 7:22:29 PM PST by fnord
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To: austingirl
That's SOME link at #84! BTTT!
178 posted on 10/31/2001 7:23:17 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: austingirl
Thanks for that great link. Also, if you haven't seen it:

Can't Cry Hard Enough

179 posted on 10/31/2001 7:31:40 PM PST by Sandy
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To: finnman69
I was warned ... amazing what you can find on the internet.
180 posted on 10/31/2001 7:38:49 PM PST by fnord
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To: weef
I remember seeing those people on the roof and thinking the same thing. Saying to myself, "those people on the flrs. above the impact can't be saved" But thinking all the others would get out. Then the bldgs. collapsed.

I remember an episode of Law & Order where there was a fire in a disco, and the opening scene was about 50 body bags lying in a row on the street. Powerful TV. Too bad the peaceniks can't see 5000 body bags lined up all around NYC.

181 posted on 10/31/2001 7:39:12 PM PST by Collier
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To: ErnBatavia
Why in the world would you want to show people jumping out of the WTC? Do you want the news to turn into a gladatorial event or something? Heck, maybe you'd prefer they put it on pay-for-view: "Faces of Death VIII: WTC Disaster". Get real. Nobody needs to see that.
182 posted on 10/31/2001 7:42:13 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: ~Peter
Ah, get away with ya, Pete. Father Judge would be the first one to laugh at the irony.
183 posted on 10/31/2001 7:43:07 PM PST by Palladin
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To: Bush2000
EVERYONE needs to see 'that'.

and liberal pukes need to have it fed to 'em in an IV at night.

REPEATEDLY.

184 posted on 10/31/2001 7:49:19 PM PST by tomkat
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To: tomkat
EVERYONE needs to see 'that'. and liberal pukes need to have it fed to 'em in an IV at night. REPEATEDLY.

Dude, you need some serious counseling. There's no way in hell I want my kids seeing that. It's enough to see the building come down.
185 posted on 10/31/2001 7:51:58 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: austingirl
Thank you for linking the 911 website. The music that goes with the images is haunting, and beautiful at the same time.
186 posted on 10/31/2001 7:52:59 PM PST by Mr_Magoo
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To: Mahone
You're absolutely right about the media. I watched with disgust today as CNN implemented its "balance"--five minutes of undiluted Al-Jazeer propaganda and then one three second shot of the crews at Ground Zero. In this ham-handed mind control manuver, they will create a reaction that our bombs are doing more civilian damage than the terrorists did, because the shot of Ground Zero never changes. This, of course, is exactly the result CNN wants.

Tokyo Rose went to prison for less than CNN does every day.

187 posted on 10/31/2001 7:54:30 PM PST by SEA
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To: Sandy
Can't Cry Hard Enough

awesome movie, great song ... thanks for the link

188 posted on 10/31/2001 7:55:07 PM PST by fnord
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To: tomkat
oh man, did you see the "jumper cards"....that is some site/sight
189 posted on 10/31/2001 7:56:40 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Bush2000
you need to kiss my ass, pretty boy
190 posted on 10/31/2001 7:57:25 PM PST by tomkat
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To: SamAdams76
God, Sam, every single time I see that picture, I want to cry all over again.

Right there in the middle is a desperate mother, holding her beloved child out the window to get that baby some fresh air. And the baby's outstretched arms, reaching for relief that probably never came...

I'm a mother of a precious toddler and pregnant with a second miracle baby (we didn't think we would ever have children, so both are DEFINITELY miracles) on the way. I simply cannot look at that picture without tearing up, without feeling an overwhelming sense of personal loss (even though I know the loss was not mine), and without wanting to turn the entire Afghan landscape into a large sheet of glass with bodies buried in it.

God lift all of them up, Your sons and daughters...

191 posted on 10/31/2001 8:02:19 PM PST by TheWriter
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To: RummyChick
No, that's not much of a site, actually...titilation for jerkoffs is more like it on that URL.
192 posted on 10/31/2001 8:02:38 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: Sandy
Thanks so much for posting that link, Sandy. I had not seen it.
193 posted on 10/31/2001 8:05:45 PM PST by Roselani
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To: ErnBatavia
Somewhere between 45 and 75 human beings leapt to their death.
194 posted on 10/31/2001 8:06:14 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: finnman69
I forced myself to watch this video. I had to. Its a twisted website with a pathetic sound clip added to it so I muted. These poor people are a million times worse than a 5 yr old with a boo boo on her head. It brought a tear to my eye watching it. It makes me more angry and more supportive of the effort. I want to take these videos and play them during these peace protests. I hope all these people lost consciousness during their fall.
195 posted on 10/31/2001 8:23:38 PM PST by smith288
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To: ErnBatavia
I heard some where that it was about 100 or so that jumped.
196 posted on 10/31/2001 8:26:36 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
I've tried two different time to load that 911 site and it just won't load. I waited for 15 minutes and it was still loading. How long should one wait for it to load? I really want to see it.
197 posted on 10/31/2001 10:11:23 PM PST by WVNan
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To: SamAdams76
Thanks for posting this picture. I want to remember this image so, while praying for peace and comfort to the surviving family, friends and co-workers, I pray for the wrath of God to incinerate every Muslim terrorist in the world. (I'll consider other types of terrorists at another time.) My full venom goes out to the "Man of Peace" (Islamic) terrorists for the forseeable future.
198 posted on 10/31/2001 10:27:59 PM PST by DebtsPaid
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To: DebtsPaid
Lot`s of pics of 9/11 here. http://www.politicsandprotest.org/
199 posted on 10/31/2001 10:41:08 PM PST by philetus
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To: Saundra Duffy
They (the anti-American press) suppress the pictures of what really happened in NYC, but they want to show the bodies of those killed by Americans in Afghanistan. I hate the fvcking press.
200 posted on 10/31/2001 10:46:11 PM PST by Robert Lomax
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