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What it was like to jump from the World Trade Center on 09-11-01
VARIOUS ^ | 10-01-01 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 11/01/2001 6:06:29 AM PST by vannrox

What it was like to jump from
the World Trade Center
(on 09-11-01)





View from the Open Promenade




View from the Observatory




Inside the Observatory.




On the top. Imagine trying to be rescued by "chopper.




Its windy up top.




This is a view from the top.




A view looking at the tower next door.




A view towards the river.




On the top.




View UP UP UP.




Photo, from World Trade Center observation deck, looking north to midtown Manhattan.




Photo, from World Trade Center observation deck, looking east to the Brooklyn Bridge and beyond





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I am not rying to be morbid, but the thought of the terror that the trapped people must of felt just slams me. Every time I hear the Liberal News rant about the poor starving Taliban children I just think about what it must of been like to fall from one of these towers.


So today, I went looking for some photos and they made a real big impression on me. I hope that in some way it helps to galvinize your feelings about this matter. I know it has mine.


NEVER FORGET!


1 posted on 11/01/2001 6:06:29 AM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox
I am not trying to be morbid

But you are.I see no purpose in this post other than morbidity.

2 posted on 11/01/2001 6:10:45 AM PST by PaulJ
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To: vannrox
On the top. Imagine trying to be rescued by "chopper

Actually the doors to the top of the building were locked by the port authority. Nobody had a chance to get rescued.

3 posted on 11/01/2001 6:11:07 AM PST by Nov3
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To: vannrox
No galvanization necessary, nevertheless, thank you. I have shuddered to think also-particularly as my cousin was on the 92nd floor--it's personal, and personally speaking: I will NEVER FORGET. V's wife.
4 posted on 11/01/2001 6:12:19 AM PST by ventana
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To: vannrox
...i think you exercised poor judgement (as well as poor taste) by posting this. we all know how tall the wtc was, and i'm sure have all thought of what it must of been like to have been one of the unfortunate ones who decided to jump (rather than burn to death). you might post this message on du. they're the ones who need their feelings "galvanized"...
5 posted on 11/01/2001 6:13:02 AM PST by cweese
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To: vannrox
Very Big Bump. Thank you for posting these. They are keepers.
6 posted on 11/01/2001 6:14:07 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: vannrox
Whoa! Thanks for the pics.

For the life of me I can't understand jumping out the window. I just couldn't bring myself to give up so completely, to be so without hope or faith that I would give up and take a plunge like that. I tried to put myself mental in their situation, but I would rather die fighting to get out than to jump.

7 posted on 11/01/2001 6:14:25 AM PST by Grig
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To: vannrox
OK by me. (not that you need it )
8 posted on 11/01/2001 6:14:57 AM PST by Stentor
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To: vannrox
Thanks for posting these. It's a view that isn't available anymore.

Just last night I was thinking of those poor souls who leaped. I wondered if any of them had the slightest hope of surviving the fall.

It's more than obvious from these pictures that none of them had even the slightest hope. They were far too high above the city to even entertain that thought.

They jumped for only one reason. They calculated that their inevitable death would be less painful than from choking and burning.

What a sad choice.

9 posted on 11/01/2001 6:15:05 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: vannrox
A view towards the river

That exact photo was over my desk the 4 years I was in college, to alleviate my homesickness.

10 posted on 11/01/2001 6:16:57 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: vannrox; Jim Robinson
This post is in terrible taste.

YOU are Seeking inappropriate attention to what must've been a horrific final few moments for innocent AMERICANS attacked by our enemy..

Spend your time doing something meaningful, this isn't something to exploit.

I hope this thread is pulled.

11 posted on 11/01/2001 6:18:26 AM PST by SunnyUsa
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To: vannrox
thanks for posting. there are some people out there who may have never realized or are starting to forget the true horror of what happened that day. People keep talking about getting back to normal, but I think we as a country need to remain angry that this was inflicted upon us.
12 posted on 11/01/2001 6:18:47 AM PST by Frank Grimes
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To: vannrox
V, thanks for the pics. Great shots. Probably would get better exposure with a less morbid title. I too will never forget.
13 posted on 11/01/2001 6:19:45 AM PST by Texas2step
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To: vannrox
Thank you for posting this. I try to imagine the horror that those poor people endured - and then, in terror and desperation, jumped...to a quick death, instead of being cooked alive.

And then people prattle about the "innocent" in Afghanistan. Never forget. Never forgive!

14 posted on 11/01/2001 6:19:49 AM PST by neutrino
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To: Grig
For the life of me I can't understand jumping out the window. I just couldn't bring myself to give up so completely, to be so without hope or faith that I would give up and take a plunge like that. I tried to put myself mental in their situation, but I would rather die fighting to get out than to jump.

Unfortunately, I suspect the choice was
1) A slow painful death by intense heat, fire, and smoke.Anyone on top once the fire and smoke became intense clearly knew there was no chance of survival.
Jump.

15 posted on 11/01/2001 6:19:49 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Dog Gone
keeping it bumped
16 posted on 11/01/2001 6:20:05 AM PST by Gasshog
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To: PaulJ
I see no purpose in this post other than morbidity.

And yet, he did not show any of the morbid pictures? Hmm.....

Thanks for the post

17 posted on 11/01/2001 6:20:51 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: Dog Gone
I can't imagine the horror these people felt....God rest their souls.
18 posted on 11/01/2001 6:21:03 AM PST by mystery-ak
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To: Dog Gone
Disregard the people who are against your posting this. No one made them open it and read it.

They obviously read it because the headline grabbed their attention and they read it out of "morbid' curiosity.

I am in NO WAY against the publishing of what has been done to us, if for no other reason than to counter the liberal "anti-war" idiots.

NEVER FORGET!

19 posted on 11/01/2001 6:21:26 AM PST by DC Ripper
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To: vannrox
I'd rather see a post of the view of a Taliban soldier just as the B-52 bombs started impacting around him.
20 posted on 11/01/2001 6:22:04 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: cweese
Wow. As I kind of expected, People are polarized on this issue. About 1/2 of the comments (so far) are very much against posting the images, and about 50% are very thankful for posting them.


The WTC incident has really affected the entire country. But there are those of us (like my self) WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE IN A SKY SCRAPER.


I have never been in a Sky Scraper, and if I have, I probably have never been higher than 10 floors. So this was a real eye opener for me. It has helped me understand somewhat the terror the people felt. Gosh, just looking at some of the pictures terrified me.


I don't want to elaborate, but I am really shaken up by this entire incident. I, in my own way, am trying to reconcile this event. I just want to help others who like me, are having a hard time adjusting.
21 posted on 11/01/2001 6:22:25 AM PST by vannrox
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To: Grig
but I would rather die fighting to get out than to jump.

They probably jumped literally out of the flames.

22 posted on 11/01/2001 6:23:21 AM PST by Taliesan
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To: vannrox

Video

23 posted on 11/01/2001 6:24:17 AM PST by big bad easter bunny
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To: vannrox; Frank Grimes
I agree, a very sad thank-you for posting these. Today as the liberal media attempts to weaken our resolve, we MUST remember the horror that so many faced on that terrible day!

NEVER FORGET!!!

24 posted on 11/01/2001 6:24:24 AM PST by LeeMcCoy
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To: vannrox
Thanks for posting these. I sometimes think, although I try not to, of the horror these people went through. The A wall of flames behind you, colleagues burnt or maimed or killed, and your only other option a hopefully quicker death as you are trapped against the outside windows. And I can't imagine the actual impact and result.....

And the media wants to show us closeups of the poor tent people in the desert? Please.

I do not mean any disrespect to those who lost loved ones, or to those who went through this horror. But I do think of them, and sorrow.

And never forget. I will never ever forget.

25 posted on 11/01/2001 6:26:03 AM PST by lds23
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To: vannrox
Univision, the Spanish-language cable channel, showed video of about 6 or 7 people falling. Those scenes were censored from American TV. I think they should have been shown to us Americans because they were horrible scenes and I think they would cause more of the liberals to support the war.
26 posted on 11/01/2001 6:26:57 AM PST by Fred25
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To: PaulJ
Morbid or not, WE CAN NEVER FORGET! The photos that get to me the most, are those of people jumping from the towers. Forcing people to choose between jumping to their death and burning to death, I can't begin to imagine the horror of that situation.

WE NEED TO BE BRUTAL, WE NEED TO BE SURE, WE CAN NEVER FORGET...WHY...WE ARE FIGHTING.

27 posted on 11/01/2001 6:28:26 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: vannrox
I've been at the top of the WTC before and you can bet the thought of falling from there is scary. It's hard enough to be up there and look down at the ground and I'm not normally afraid of heights. I can't begin to imagine what those poor souls trapped up there on 9/11 must have been feeling. At least I was able to get on an elevator and leave when I was ready to go.
28 posted on 11/01/2001 6:28:30 AM PST by mafree
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To: vannrox
Let us never forget that on 9-11-01, Barbarians sacked our cities.
29 posted on 11/01/2001 6:28:58 AM PST by ThirdMate
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To: vannrox
sick!!
30 posted on 11/01/2001 6:29:44 AM PST by conservativejunkie
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To: Grig
I don't know if this will help, but if you were feeling certain that you would die that day, by fire, smoke inhalation, crushed, or falling to your death, the least painful way to go would be the pain-free impact at the bottom of the long fall. The human nervous system speed limit is such that you would not experience the impact for the annihilation would be so massive and so sudden there would be no time for nerve feedback with the brain. ...

That massive annihilation is what I feel should be rained down upon the terrorists' benefactors, their supporters, the talibunnies and any that harbor or promote the use of terror against civilians in their demonic effort to please their evil allah. 'Evil allah,' you might ask? Yes, for what diety would call the slaughter of the innocent with malice a forethought as a good thing? Do our bombs occasionally kill innocent civilians? Yes, but the main difference is our intent, as we try to reduce the death to innocent persons to the lowest possible; we are seeking to kill the military power that holds a demonic lock over the innocent civilians and exports this evil that attacks the innocent purposely, instead of making war on a military, and thus to free the nation to live without the evil now over them. You want to argue with that notion of the difference? Take it up with God; I'm satisfied that their allah is not He, not The God of Grace. [My 'you' is used as a non-specific pronoun here.]

31 posted on 11/01/2001 6:29:58 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: vannrox

32 posted on 11/01/2001 6:30:47 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: vannrox
Know many different feelings here; avoided this post initially, because I thought it was of the people on 9/11/; then realized otherwise.

Find pictures not morbid; just breathtaking, hauntingly beautiful. . .

. . .and there are many who have never 'been there' and this will certainly give them a perspective they did not have.

33 posted on 11/01/2001 6:31:45 AM PST by cricket
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To: vannrox
I think this is a good post. We as a nation, have become so PC that we don't want to look at any pain or suffering that might directly affect us. We need to see these pictures so that we won't forget. We need to know that if we don't fight this war, that more of this is waiting for us.

We need to quit glossing over the truth. You did nothing perverse or in bad taste. You showed no mangled flesh or impaled bodies. Yet even if you did, it would still be the truth. This is important. We need a constant reminder of what we are fighting against. We are so used to the filter of our media that maybe some don't want the truth.

34 posted on 11/01/2001 6:32:10 AM PST by GWfan
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To: vannrox
There are many many many pictures here. In fact, the pictures loaded on pages 1-29 of this url are only representative of some of the pictures. Once you've clicked on a picture, click on 'next' to go to the next picture. Most of the pictures are not on the 1-29 top pages...

Lots of WTC fotos, some from foreign media, some from local people.

There is a whole sequence in here from someone who shot digital camera pictures from their laptop as they were being evacuated from the building. Lots of debris in the courtyard is visible from the shots from the lobby. What is heartbreaking are the pictures in the stairwell as people are going down being evacuated and firemen on their way up. Tragic, just tragic
35 posted on 11/01/2001 6:32:54 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Dog Gone
"They calculated that their inevitable death might be less painful . . ."

I'm not sure how much calculating was going on. I think in many cases it was a sheer animal avoidance of pain right now , not a calculated decision on how to die. Even something is ordinary as a speck in the eye can cause unbearable pain, so if you are burning up or choking on fumes, you jump, you don't even think about it.
36 posted on 11/01/2001 6:34:00 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: mafree
A couple of hours into this trajedy...I went over to the WTC webcam. A view from the top of the WTC. I printed out a picture of what two young men gazing out into the New York sky-line. Only their backs were visible. It seemed to be the last picture transmitted from the WTC.

I am wondering if anyone else saw this picture and if the owners of the web-site saved it?

No need to ask what became of these two.

sw

37 posted on 11/01/2001 6:34:48 AM PST by spectre
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To: vannrox
Thank you for caring enough to remind us of the absolute horror of that choice so many made on that infamous day. It is astounding and heartbreaking. And your post adds that raw reality of what it looked like-the sheer terror that causes someone, just begining a normal day in their lives. to jump to his or her death, preferring the fall to burning alive. An awesome reminder that this was a reality for people not so different from you and I. God Bless you vannrox, I know I will never forget.
38 posted on 11/01/2001 6:35:48 AM PST by Republic
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To: Serb5150
Check it out, Serb.
39 posted on 11/01/2001 6:37:07 AM PST by jwfiv
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To: vannrox
Thank you for posting. I often think of those people and what circumstances would have compelled them to take such action.

I was also surpised to see how spectacular the view was and can now understand why it was such a tourist attraction. Though I usually avoid cities, crowds and tall buildings, I can understand why my husband tried so often to take me to NY (I have never been), and why he was so impressed with the city.

It must have been a wonderful place to spend a day, touring, shopping and dining.

We watced the special on the contruction of the WTC. It was facinating. But it reminded me of the Titanic. Just as the Titanic had too few lifeboats, the narrow stairwells seem to me not to have been large enough to handle a mass evacuation of the building. I thought that was poor planning and hope in the future that issue is addressed.

40 posted on 11/01/2001 6:37:25 AM PST by chit*chat
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To: vannrox
Thanks for posting. We can't and won't forget. Let's hope the rest of America doesn't when this war gets real ugly.
41 posted on 11/01/2001 6:37:31 AM PST by b4its2late
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To: vannrox
Thanks for the pictures. I'm going to miss going up to the top (I've been there more times than I can count).
I saved some of the larger ones as wallpaper. Thanks again.
42 posted on 11/01/2001 6:37:33 AM PST by peteram
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To: 1Old Pro
Unfortunately, I suspect the choice was 1) A slow painful death by intense heat, fire, and smoke.Anyone on top once the fire and smoke became intense clearly knew there was no chance of survival. Jump.

That's just it. I can't think like that. Just because I don't see a way out doesn't mean there isn't one, I would try finding a way to escape untill I was dead no matter how hopeless it seemed. You never know what will come from trying untill you actually do it.

43 posted on 11/01/2001 6:37:35 AM PST by Grig
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To: vannrox
Just ignore the complaints. You did nothing wrong.
44 posted on 11/01/2001 6:38:17 AM PST by Grig
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To: vannrox
Thank you for the pictures. Nothing morbid about the view from the top.
45 posted on 11/01/2001 6:38:59 AM PST by lonestar
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To: ThirdMate
The Horror of the Holocaust will never be forgotten. And Jewish folk spend ENORMOUS effort reminding the world.

It is time America understood that keeping these painful images at the forefront is not about p##ing on your cornflakes, it is about facing the truth and dealing with it for all time. Your own life is at stake.

Those who would sweep this under the rug think they are being 'sensitive' to the victims. BULLSH!T.

It is in truth just more political correctness and a selfish desire to avoid pain.

The danger to America is FAR GREATER to forget the horror of 9-11 than to overload.

Congratulations, Third Mate, on making people THINK about the gruesome loss of innocent American lives of people just like you and me, and the evil enemy within, including Socialist politicians and Hollywood scum, that permitted this to happen.

NEVER FORGET

46 posted on 11/01/2001 6:39:13 AM PST by Enduring Freedom
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To: cweese
i think you exercised poor judgement (as well as poor taste) by posting this. we all know how tall the wtc was, and i'm sure have all thought of what it must of been like to have been one of the unfortunate ones who decided to jump

We all know that fighting a war to bring those who did this to account will result in civilian deaths. But the media gushes over every Afghan kid who cuts his toe on a fragment of a US bomb.

Consider this post balance for their pro-terrorist propaganda.

Reminding people of what occurred is no sin.

47 posted on 11/01/2001 6:39:26 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: vannrox
Supposedly there is more than one picture of an area near the WTC taken shortly before the collapse where many of those who lost hope fell. The pictures of the area have been suppressed by the news organizations whose employees took the photos. A friend of mine who works for a prominent NYC paper says his editor saw the photo, and described it as a scene out of a slaughterhouse. Could be an urban myth, but this tactic wouldn't surprise me. There are many people in the country for whom a number - 5,000; 6,000, means nothing, who have no conception of how large those buildings are. Information like this is necessary to galvanize and maintain public opinion in support of this war.
48 posted on 11/01/2001 6:39:32 AM PST by motexva
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To: vannrox
Thanks for the pictures. I have never been up there and only seen them once from a plane landing at Laguardia on 8/8/01. Terrifying to think of falling from that distance or burning to death. Must have been a wonderful view until 9/11.

Pray for GW and the Truth!

49 posted on 11/01/2001 6:40:31 AM PST by bray
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To: SunnyUsa
I hope this thread is pulled.

Oh really. And why do you want to censor pictures from the top of the World Trade Center?

Hmmmmmm....?

50 posted on 11/01/2001 6:41:34 AM PST by LarryLied
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