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Islamist Threat
The American Partisan ^ | 2 November, 2001 | Jennifer King

Posted on 11/02/2001 8:28:08 AM PST by The Right Stuff

Islamist Threat
by Jennifer King

Part 1 of a 2 part Series

The entire civilized West is under assault by a group of barbaric and radical fundamentalists. Sound extreme? Fantastic? Unbelievable in this, the 21st Century?

Remember 911, when thousands, perhaps millions, of Muslims worldwide joyously celebrated the televised murder of completely innocent people. How can this be, when we are told that Islam is a religion of peace? Why is it that Muslims, even American Muslims, are so noticeably muted in their condemnation of the terrorist attacks? Why are so many radical clerics asked to speak at American mosques, spewing venomous anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism right from the pulpit? How can this be, if Islam is a religion of peace?

In Australia, charges are pending against 18 Lebanese men, who stand accused of 360 offenses against Australian women. The women were all gang-raped, with the men often using their cell phones to call their buddies over to join in the fun. One 18-year old woman testified that she had been brutalized over a period of six hours by 15 different men. One of her attackers later testified that he was "unfamiliar" with Australian law and that he therefore "didn’t know" that he was perpetrating a crime by making the victim perform oral sex on him four times, and raping her once. How can this be, if Islam is a religion of peace?

Panicked, the PC police in Australia insisted that racism was not behind the crimes, despite the fact that one girl testified that the man who raped her told her she "deserved it, because she was an Australian." Sydney’s Muslim leader, Sheik Taj el Din Hilaly, further fanned the flames by insisting that it was not the men’s ethnicity or religion that was to blame, but instead that their crimes were "products of Australian culture."

The crime of gang-rape by Arab men is not new. In Denmark, 7 youths are on trial for gang-raping a 14 year old girl. In France, 11 men are on trial for gang-raping another 14 year old girl. The French even have a name for this particular crime, "tournante" or "wait your turn". How can this be, if Islam is a religion of peace?

Today, Abduman Al Turkey, spokesman for the Mecca based World League, demanded that the United Nations refrain from doing anything that might prove offensive to Islam. He further warned that the West should quit connecting Islam with terrorism. Al Turkey was not specific on how the West should do that, however, since most recent acts of terror have been committed by Middle Eastern Muslim men.

Also today, World Net Daily is reporting that 14 Algerians have come to the United States and have immediately enrolled in flight training schools. They follow closely on the heels of 14 Syrian nationals who flew to the U.S. on October 16, also promptly enrolling in flight training schools. One of the flight schools is owned by a man named Khalid Miloud.

In the meantime, one of Osama bin Laden’s main henchmen has publicly vowed to hit the U.S. with another "storm of planes."

Perhaps we wouldn’t be so worried, if we could just be convinced that Islam really is the peaceful religion they keep telling us it is. ***

© 2001 Jennifer King Next week: Part 2 in this Series


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1 posted on 11/02/2001 8:28:09 AM PST by The Right Stuff
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To: The Right Stuff
A few reasons NOT to encourage Arab terrorists into the US at this time to take flying lessons.

Atrocity Stimulus 9/11 (above): Right Image is a blow-up of upper right corner of Left Image

Reprehensible Response (below): Moslem Arabs Celebrating American deaths

And finally, they even CELEBRATE airplane killings. Where are the "grownups" at INS, FAA, etc.?


3 posted on 11/02/2001 8:37:58 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: candyman34
more racist hate-bating - not all muslims are fanatics

Can you tell me why from the Philippines to Nigeria to New York moslems are murdering non-moslem civilians wholesale?

4 posted on 11/02/2001 8:42:01 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: The Right Stuff
I agree! I'm getting really tired of the talk not only on Free Republic but elsewhere that all Muslims are animals and brutes and supported what happened on 9-11 and therefore must all be NUKED (Thank God those who want to nuke so badly aren't in positions of power).

But claiming that ALL Middle Eastern types are evil, ALL Muslims are our enemy is just plain stupidity. Its equivalent to saying ALL Germans during WWII were Nazis or all Russians were Communists! This story wants to say that all Muslims are gang rapists, like there aren't gang rapists in other ehtnic groups? anywhere else? Please give me a break!!

5 posted on 11/02/2001 8:49:17 AM PST by RussianBear716
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To: RussianBear716
Ask yourself this one question ? Have you seen any Muslim speak out for the US against Terrorist Publicly that u can site???
6 posted on 11/02/2001 9:02:57 AM PST by scooby321
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To: candyman34
Re:"more racist hate-bating - not all muslims are fanatics - anymore than all zionists are communists and racists."

Now that's a clear, well thought out statement!

You on the K-1 debating team?

7 posted on 11/02/2001 9:07:54 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: Diogenesis
I thought you'd like this one too for your collection.




British Muslims, Guardian Oct. 30

8 posted on 11/02/2001 9:48:53 AM PST by Shermy
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To: RussianBear716
But claiming that ALL Middle Eastern types are evil, ALL Muslims are our enemy is just plain stupidity. Its equivalent to saying ALL Germans during WWII were Nazis or all Russians were Communists! This story wants to say that all Muslims are gang rapists, like there aren't gang rapists in other ehtnic groups? anywhere else? Please give me a break!!***

I agree that there must be some moderate and peaceful Muslims that denounce these terrorist attacks - but I haven't been able to document too many of them, in America or anywhere else.

Instead, what repeatedly pops up is that mullahs around the world are engaging in anti-American and anti-Semitic rhetoric; boys are trained from childhood to be suicide bombers in countless schools, and the Koran sure has a lot of scary passages in it.

Check around the web. It's pretty scary when Muslim students in America (some second and third generation) say that they would not fight for their country and that they don't consider themselves Americans.

9 posted on 11/02/2001 10:14:45 AM PST by The Right Stuff
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To: scooby321
Ask yourself this one question ? Have you seen any Muslim speak out for the US against Terrorist Publicly that u can site???

Well, lets see, Turkey is a Muslim country and they are sending troops to fight against the Taliban .... The President of India ... he has spoken against it. There have been Muslims in this country as well who have spoken out against it. How many sources do you need?

10 posted on 11/02/2001 10:20:03 AM PST by RussianBear716
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To: The Right Stuff
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11 posted on 11/02/2001 10:21:57 AM PST by widgysoft
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To: The Right Stuff
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12 posted on 11/02/2001 10:21:58 AM PST by widgysoft
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To: RussianBear716
Turkey is a Muslim country and they are sending troops to fight against the Taliban ***

This is true, and the definition should be made between the fanatical Islamists who want to dominate the world and impose Muslim rule on it, and the more moderate, more democratic (dare we say Western) countries like Turkey.

13 posted on 11/02/2001 10:24:53 AM PST by The Right Stuff
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To: The Right Stuff
Check around the web. It's pretty scary when Muslim students in America (some second and third generation) say that they would not fight for their country and that they don't consider themselves Americans

There are alot of non Muslim Americans who wouldn't fight for this country as well. Check out any college campus in the US. Remember all the cowards who flocked to Canada during the Vietnam War? So I ask, where is the difference?


14 posted on 11/02/2001 10:25:01 AM PST by RussianBear716
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To: Travis McGee
Can you tell me why from the Philippines to Nigeria to New York moslems are murdering non-moslem civilians wholesale?

Those aren't REAL Muslims. The ones practicing clitoredectomy and infibulation on 6 year old girls aren't practicing the Real Islam, and Islam does not promote the murder of non-Muslims, therefore most of the Muslims in Africa aren't Real Muslims. And since they are doing the same thing in Indonesia, they aren't Real Muslims either. And the oppression of women in Afghanistan and Saudi and Iraq and Iran and Palestinian areas are not acting in accordance with Real Islam either, so they aren't Real Muslims. And the ones murdering Buddhists in India and Pakistan aren't Real Muslims either. And the Nation of Islam in the US preaching death to the Blue-Eyed Devils aren't Real Muslims.

The Real Islam and the Real Muslims are lovely, peaceful people, and they live in the North west corner of Ankara (sp?) Turkey. There are only 14 or 15 of them, but I understand they are just the nicest folks you ever did see.

15 posted on 11/02/2001 10:30:02 AM PST by Anamensis
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To: candyman34
Yea, only the Muslims we hear from are murderous fanatics. There are lots of peaceful Muslims who love America. They just spend a lot of time indoors watching TV and gardening or something. Only the collge students and professors and Muslims in foreign marketplaces or walking in the street or political spokesmen that get on TV are murderous fanatics. All the rest are really nice folks. We just don't get to hear their story. Really.
16 posted on 11/02/2001 10:30:54 AM PST by anton
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To: RussianBear716
Well, lets see, Turkey is a Muslim country and they are sending troops to fight against the Taliban .... The President of India ... he has spoken against it. There have been Muslims in this country as well who have spoken out against it. How many sources do you need?

Almost everything you've said here is wrong...

1. Turkey is a secular nation with a Moslem population.

2. India is not a Moslem country, it's mainly Hindu.

3. There have been precious few Moslems in this country who have spoken unequivocally against the attacks on 9/11. There are always equivocations about America or Zionists, and louder complainst that they are viewed suspiciously than there are about those who butcher civilians in the name of their religion.

4. I need more sources than you provide. A lot more.


17 posted on 11/02/2001 10:36:36 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: widgysoft
many muslims will have to die, to get this thing back in balance, they need to understand that no good comes from terrorism. period. if we give anything we will look weak and attract more violence. nuclear deterrent. in kabul.
18 posted on 11/02/2001 10:40:20 AM PST by veryconernedamerican
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To: RussianBear716; Travis McGee
But claiming that ALL Middle Eastern types are evil, ALL Muslims are our enemy is just plain stupidity. Its equivalent to saying ALL Germans during WWII were Nazis or all Russians were Communists! This story wants to say that all Muslims are gang rapists, like there aren't gang rapists in other ehtnic groups? anywhere else? Please give me a break!!

I'm happy to give you a break. Your equations are not analogous. Let me correct them for you...

Nazism is to Germans,

Is as Communism is to Russians,

Is as Islam is to Arabs and others who've fallen under its sway.

It is brutal and oppressive everywhere it's tried.

And like Nazism and Communism, Islam has plenty of apologists here, who claim the the evil excesses don't represent the pure form of the doctrine.

Not all Nazis were murderers, not all Communists were murderers, and not all Moslems are murderers.

So what?


19 posted on 11/02/2001 10:48:04 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: The Right Stuff
Headline: 2 grams of anthrax found in Daschle's envelope, could have killed 2 million.

Headline: Attorney General Ashcroft warns of major attacks this weekend.

Headline: Attack could be dirty bomb.

It is time to get back to basics!

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear God which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:28

Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3

That whosoever believeth on Jesus should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that He gave Jesus, His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Jesus should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not His Son Jesus into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved. Those that believeth on Jesus are not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God, Jesus. John 3:15-18

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me. John 14:6

It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Hebrews 9:27

By all rights, every person working in the capital should be dead. The amount of anthrax found in the letter found in democrat senator Daschle's office contained enough anthrax to infect and kill two million people. It was only by God's grace that it was found and those infected treated before it, the anthrax, had the opportunity to do it's intended deed.

What about you? What if the next terrorist attack kills you? What if you are killed in the stampede to escape the next attack? Or what if you just die from natural causes? Will you be greeted by the Lord with a smile and a greeting? Or will He condemn you to spending eternity in the lake of fire, after groveling before the Lord and His saints and apologizing for being so stupid?

You salvation, your choice.

Messiah Yeshua be with you all.

Amen.

20 posted on 11/02/2001 10:54:15 AM PST by Alas
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To: Sabertooth
And all White American males were slave owners I suppose Well some were, so what does it matter if we say they all were. Its only words... lets paint them all with the same brush .. what the Hell... And all Muslims are murdering scum... they must be, after all they aren't in the streets screaming how horrible bin Laden is. And if they aren't thenthey must automatically for him.

Isn't this called guilt by association? The terrorists who are responsible for 9-11 aren't religious at all in my book. They just wrap themselves in the cloak of being defenders of the faith of Islam. Its a way for them to look good to a small group of radical Muslims, and a way for them to try and fool themselves that they are nothing more then butchering animals

21 posted on 11/02/2001 10:59:05 AM PST by RussianBear716
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To: RussianBear716

Isn't this called guilt by association?

Not at all. In your case, it's a series of straw man arguements, false analogies, and logical non-sequiteurs, starting in post #5 continuing in post #10 and post #19.

You insinuate that I'm painting ethnic groups with broad brushes. Reread #19. I specifically did not.

The terrorists who are responsible for 9-11 aren't religious at all in my book. They just wrap themselves in the cloak of being defenders of the faith of Islam. Its a way for them to look good to a small group of radical Muslims, and a way for them to try and fool themselves that they are nothing more then butchering animals

Your book doesn't matter. Look how incorrect it was in post #10.

The terrorists were being religious and true to Islam, not only according to them, also to the Koran, and to many tens of millions of Moslems around the world.

Jesus said: "By their fruits shall you know them."

The fruits of Islam are all around us.

If you don't want to deal with the reality, fine. But quit insulting those who are finally facing the facts. We have a jihad to defeat.


22 posted on 11/02/2001 11:20:33 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: RussianBear716
Well the polls (Gallup for example) indicate that 80% of the people in Pakistan support Bin Laden. The deafening silence of the Muslim clerics about 9-11 offer no rebuttal to the extremeism of Bin Laden. THe newspapers are full of hate for America and for the death of Americans.

What conclusion would rational people draw from this?

Not all Muslims support murder and rape, a majority of them do.

23 posted on 11/02/2001 11:21:59 AM PST by Leto
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To: Sabertooth
We have a jihad to defeat.***

Growl back atcha, saber.

24 posted on 11/02/2001 11:23:00 AM PST by The Right Stuff
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To: Leto
Well the polls (Gallup for example) indicate that 80% of the people in Pakistan support Bin Laden. The deafening silence of the Muslim clerics about 9-11 offer no rebuttal to the extremeism of Bin Laden. THe newspapers are full of hate for America and for the death of Americans. What conclusion would rational people draw from this? Not all Muslims support murder and rape, a majority of them do.

You actually believe polls? Polls can be made to say anything the people taking them want them to say. If you believed polls in this country, Al Gore be President.

If 80% of the Paks really supported the Taliban, they would have overthrown their government by now and bin Laden would have his hands on those nukes.

Afor for Pak papers.. I worry about what they say as much as I worry bout the editorial page of the Washington Post. Both are crap only expressing the views of the journalists.

As for the last line of your post .... if you truly believe that, you have my sincere sympathy and I will pray God knows its only cause your upset.

25 posted on 11/02/2001 11:33:10 AM PST by RussianBear716
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To: Sabertooth
After reading your last post, what can I say. You win.. its true your a insanely blind racist with a paintbrush. Make sure none of that paint splashes on you.
26 posted on 11/02/2001 11:35:50 AM PST by RussianBear716
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To: RussianBear716
Calling someone a racist: The last refuge of a scoundrel.
27 posted on 11/02/2001 11:48:02 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Cyber Liberty
Or the incompetent debater.
28 posted on 11/02/2001 12:03:35 PM PST by America's Resolve
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To: RussianBear716
Turkey is a Muslim country

Wrong answer tovarishch. Ever hear of Kamal Ataturk? Turkey is a secular country by law, where most of the citizens are moslems. There is a BIG difference between that and a "Muslim country".

29 posted on 11/02/2001 12:06:29 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Anamensis
I feel better now that you have cleared that up.
30 posted on 11/02/2001 12:07:47 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: RussianBear716; Sabertooth
The terrorists who are responsible for 9-11 aren't religious at all in my book.

Sadly, your book didn't matter a bit to Atta and company. The only book (other than flying manuals) that they ever read was the koran, which they had memorized by rote. The last words from their mouths as they flew into occupied buildings, killing thousands, was "ALLAH AKBAR!!"

"Your book" won't stop the next moslem mass murder, but the murderers are reading and "gaining insporation" from the koran even as we type to each other.

Their book matters a lot. It is a manual for mass murder for a great % of the moslems in the world in the year 2001.

31 posted on 11/02/2001 12:15:08 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: RussianBear716; Travis McGee; Cyber Liberty; America's Resolve; The Right Stuff; Leto
"After reading your last post, what can I say. You win.. its true your a insanely blind racist with a paintbrush. Make sure none of that paint splashes on you."

You started out with a smear, bad facts, and an illogical argument.

I debunked your smear, disproved your facts, and dismantled your argument. You were unable to address any of this. Never a direct response any of the points I raised.

Now, you simply return to the smear: "racist."

I'd call getting you to drop two of the three faulty legs of your position definite progress.

ps. Bonus points to you if you can guess whether or not my daughter is of the same ethnicity as the one you accuse me of being racist for.

32 posted on 11/02/2001 12:41:34 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Travis McGee
"Your book" won't stop the next moslem mass murder, but the murderers are reading and "gaining insporation" from the koran even as we type to each other.

Their book matters a lot. It is a manual for mass murder for a great % of the moslems in the world in the year 2001.****

It is disquieting. It's been a long while since I looked at the Koran, but the passages calling for outright extermination of the infidel are surely unique.

Plenty of pagans were killed in the OT, but I don't recall God ever specifically demanding that the Jews kill all who didn't believe in the God of Israel.

33 posted on 11/02/2001 3:34:30 PM PST by The Right Stuff
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To: The Right Stuff
The koran is truly unique.
34 posted on 11/02/2001 6:39:59 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: RussianBear716
But claiming that ALL Middle Eastern types are evil, ALL Muslims are our enemy is just plain stupidity. Its equivalent to saying ALL Germans during WWII were Nazis or all Russians were Communists!

No, it's like saying that all Nazis are Nazis. The race isn't our enemy, whether it be Arabs or Germans. But the ideology is our enemy, whether it be Naziism, Communism, or Islam.
36 posted on 05/02/2002 8:41:02 PM PDT by Michael2001
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