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Yes, This is about Islam
New York Times ^
| Nov 02, 2001
| Salman Rushdie
Posted on 11/02/2001 10:11:37 AM PST by AgThorn
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To: AlGone2001
....It seems to me that Muslims are attempting to get around the "coversion" idea, and go straight to a militant Islamic in your face kind of religion....
Perhaps that is its weakness and the reason we are here. Maybe it cannot be mutated, ameliorated. I suspect that at its base, it carries a message of war rather than peace, intolerance rather than iolerance, violence rather than pacifism.
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posted on
11/03/2001 6:36:16 AM PST
by
Helms
To: AgThorn
Islam needs a Ghandi
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posted on
11/03/2001 6:37:31 AM PST
by
ChadGore
To: Helms
I think the problem is Islam started to mutate because it could no longer coexist with the changes in the modern world and what it was turning into something other than Islam. I do not believe Islam is capable of change and still be Islam, so in order to survive Islam has to change the environment (ie return people to the 14th century where Islam could survive). As long as America and western society has the ability to infuence the world exists Islam can not have the environment that it needs to exist.
To: CathyRyan
Some people could handle the change and accept it while many could not.
To: CathyRyan
I am interested in your prognosis for the Mideast, or is this all shades of things to come. As I understand it, Christianity was said "to render under Ceasar.." while Islam may seem such a tribal shamanistic religion.
I worry about Islamism in the US. There must be so much masked resentment living amoungst us. I suppose that they can only take refuge in a sense of false superiority.
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posted on
11/03/2001 9:01:56 AM PST
by
Helms
To: GOPJ
But the Muslims are madder, they haven't had a new idea in over a hundred years. Rage has a way of building when you accept you're a failure, or you redouble your blind faith. The Muslims haven't had a new idea in more than a thousand years! This is what happens when a fanatical religion takes hold of a culture.
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posted on
11/03/2001 9:08:43 AM PST
by
WRhine
To: Shermy
Least huggable?!? LOL. Rushdie has the gift of understatement. He was scheduled to speak in my neck of the woods -- Minneapolis -- the nite of 9/11.
To: meenie
Thousands of Iranian students and young people were put in jail and hospitals because they stood up for America. Candlelight vigils were held in cities all over Iran for the past 6 or 7 weeks. They Iranian Muslims stand with America against those who took down the WTC. Our press, for the most part, didn't cover these protest. Why?
By Michael Ledeen. Mr. Ledeen is a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. His latest book, "Tocqueville on American Character," has just been published in paperback by St. Martin's Press.
"An event of world-historical potential is underway in one of the largest and most powerful countries of the Middle East, yet almost no one seems to have noticed. Ever since the night of Oct. 12, the citizens of Iran have repeatedly demonstrated against the murderous Shiite theocracy that has oppressed them for the past 22 years. The most recent demonstrations started last Wednesday and ran for four successive nights in Tehran and other major cities."
"These events are unprecedented in the history of the Islamic Republic. They involved hundreds of thousands of people at a minimum. One second-hand account I received spoke of more than a million antigovernment demonstrators in Tehran alone. The first "victory" in our war on terror could be the fall of the regime in Iran."
Attacking the Ayatollah
"Unlike previous demonstrations, which were largely limited to students at major universities, the latest round involved young people from all walks of life and of both sexes."
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11/03/2001 11:01:32 AM PST
by
GOPJ
To: Helms
It depends I think on what happens next. If they nuke us etc all bets are off and we will never accept their presents or ideology and I think we will clean house (ours and theirs) till the ones let see it our way. If nothing more happens we will bloody their noses good in Afghanistan and Iraq (taking out Saddam) then threaten to do it to anyone else that crosses us again, then we would hunker down and brood. Regardless the Islamic-American community and the world Islamic community have lost the respect and the trust of the American people (separate and apart from the any US government position) and they will be at the bottom of the pecking order for a very long time. I do not think their psyche will handle that well.
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Bumping to Clash of Civilizations list.
To: AgThorn
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