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A commie professor is blasted
The Cal. State Monitor ^ | Nov. 3, 2001 | Roger Ringer

Posted on 11/03/2001 8:01:05 AM PST by Coastman5

Richard Busacca, Ph. D. Chair of Social Science Dept., SFSU

Some radicals like Professor Busacca think that by taking the opposite side of an argument with the person they are speaking to (soon to be arguing with), they are demonstrating their vast sophistication and intelligence. He never fails to expound on what you say (he also likes to hear himself talk), and by doing so he sticks in views you had not even mentioned. For example, I told the class that I wanted to do my paper on how the media covers up hate crimes committed by blacks and hypes those committed by whites on blacks. Then of course, Big Mouth has to take over and totally change what I said. I had presented the topic that the media is anti-Christian and anti-conservative, but he starts out by saying how liberals pass these laws and then it comes back to get them when they are charged with hate crimes (!) 

I say can anyone tell me where a liberal was charged with a hate crime? Read my complaint letter about Busacca and the way he treated me in his office. The man has a problem; he tries to get people to change their paper topic to suit his agenda, and then he insults you and scoffs at your ideas (all the while not letting you speak). Big Mouth Busacca.

Dominates over black people
Heck, the guy improperly dominates every conversation, but I have noticed that he is very committed to controlling black people.  One example from class where he treated a black woman rudely was when he blurted out that the statistics that person  had just mentioned from a journal article were incorrect.  Who is he to claim to be the expert on a study published in a scholarly paper.  She was presenting her findings from articles on her subject.  If he would have done that to me, I would have said, "Right, like I would believe you; no thanks, I have my good source right here.  If you want to prove it wrong, be my guest and try."  Busacca is obsessed with discussing the lifestyle or problems of blacks: He has went on about Afro-Cuban music, hip-hop music, public housing, Castros involvement in Angola, and how uncomfortable he was hearing his lawyer talk about blacks in an unfavorable light.  Right, the man who openly puts down people (Professor Kennedy or people in our class) is prudish in the mix of diverse opinions - WRONG, he is a control freak..   I believe he wants to 'manage' blacks as much as he possibly can; that tells you what his opinion of blacks is.  Yes, it was proper to say to the lawyer to please don't talk about my tenant that way; the reality is, he can't defend himself when dealing with a stronger personality.  The reality is, a far left extremist like him is not used to people telling him their contrary opinions.  Another important factor in that episode was money; Busacca was depending on his cheap lawyer to get his tenant evicted.  What an asshole to even bring up his little stories all the time. 
Obsessed with politics
He tells us about how he is steamed at the Bush administration in telling CNN not to tell about our war maneuvers, pro-abortion matters and Sweden's domestic policies that allow mothers to have their children in childcare, how Bush didn't want the U.S. to go to the "racism conference" in Africa.  He is trying to get people to think he is on the side of blacks, but I firmly believe radical lefties try very hard to keep people of color in a new form of slavery, i.e. count on the Democrat party to get you your government payments, affirmative action, and civil rights.  Being a strong Republican, I maintain that the GOP is the party of equality.  The Republican North freed the slaves and more Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964.  The Dems don't want you to consider those important facts, of course.  

He has dumbed down the curriculum and adopted a forceful, pro-left indoctrination agenda.  Just what it takes to produce low wage, blind-to-reality, immoral  workers who will follow the Democrat party to victory!  How original! 

Does not meet curriculum standards
He once in a while has actually taught, albeit his style would be more suited to a class of deviant prisoners or mentally retarded people.  He plays guessing games with the class.  For example, he spent way too much time demonstrating how to form a theory.  In fact that is the main thing he has covered so far.  We have spent lots of time guessing the answers he was looking for on topics such as why people cluster in hallways, why gay men may engage in risky sex, when marriages are likely to break up, and the causes and results of homelessness.  He didn't present any sources for his information, and in fact, I find it disgraceful to let the liberals in my class believe that a free market economy is a principle factor for homelessness.  That is just another example of a nutty professor hyping up liberal lies.  The dizziest girl in the class blurted out immediately the answer to the cause of homelessness - no price controls.  Right away Busacca writes that on the board and goes with it.  What an asshole.   Most of our class time is playing guessing games for his little theories and presenting articles students find.  Each student has to present nine articles over the semester.  This was the class I most looked forward to this semester, but on the first day, I realized this Busacca was a dysfunctional teacher.  I would like to learn about how to do and interpret research studies, but am being cheated by this fat-cat, government worker who dishes out propaganda every day.  I am not prepared to read research studies and interpret the complex charts and statistics they use.  Our text book covers simple, political studies, but what am I to do when I open a scholarly journal or book that is much more complex than his course book, which is basically an introduction book.
Is not qualified to be the chair of the Social Science Dept.
He has a Ph. D. in political science as I understand.  There is a political science program at SFSU in the College of Political Science, so why is he qualified to chair the social science program?  I have yet to hear that one.  He has a dirty mouth and mind.  His favorite curse word for his classroom performances is 'motherfucker'.  On the first or second day of class he told us about a student's paper that dealt with a pro-child sex agenda.  He didn't just mention it, he described the argument and then he has brought up that paper on other days in class.  The man is a total radical who insults my sensitive nature.  He tells us stories from his personal life - his trouble with past tenants (he is a landlord, don't you know), his sit-ins at Berkeley in the '60s, and how he had to adapt to changing sex roles in the era of his youth.
 


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If you want to read the formal complaint I filed with the Dean, go to this link Busacca Complaint. It tells about how he Busacca went crazy when I was discussing my topic in his office. He started to go on about how Jesse Helmes is a racist and implied that I was a liar, because I certainly couldn't admire Helms if I had really viewed his voting record. I didn't get a letter back from the Dean so I called him, and he did say that he had spoken to Busacca about it, and found his behavior to be improper. When I called him he apologized for Busacca and said he took my complaint very seriously and will again speak to him. I said I will never go in Busacca's office again and the Dean is going to try to find someone else to guide me in my social science paper. Actually, I don't care to work with anyone from SFSU, because I have yet to meet a person who isn't a radical.
1 posted on 11/03/2001 8:01:05 AM PST by Coastman5 (csureform@yahoo.com)
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To: Coastman5
Eventually these Commie professors will die out and be replaced by the next generation, which I believe will tend toward libertarian ideas.
2 posted on 11/03/2001 8:06:47 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Coastman5
I assume that this paper is for undergrad work? I had a college professor who just got his phd say that you never never never argue or disagree with the professors when you are going for a phd. The key is to choose a post grad program that you agree with.

I have heard of a black person getting prosecuted for a hate crime. But nothing in the media, like they do when it's politically correct.

3 posted on 11/03/2001 8:10:41 AM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: Coastman5
I'm beginning to think it must be a job requirement for college professors to be left-leaning. I'm currently enrolled in our local community college. My algebra(yes, algebra) teacher had made several comments in class which set off alarms in my head, including one in support of unions. Thursday night, in the middle of a math class, he suddenly asked us if we knew where the money was coming from to pay for this war? "It's our grandchildren's future," he answered himself. It took all I had in me not to start a debate with him. THIS IS ALGEBRA FOR GOODNESS SAKES.
4 posted on 11/03/2001 8:12:26 AM PST by dubyagee
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To: Coastman5
commie professor

redundency :)

5 posted on 11/03/2001 8:17:44 AM PST by southern rock
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
I disagree. The next generation of college profs will tend to be even more extreme than this one. Although the extreme they swing to may be National Socialism (NAZI), but of course they'll call it something else.
6 posted on 11/03/2001 8:31:35 AM PST by cartoonistx
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To: dubyagee
According to several thinkers and scholars of intellectual history, the ideas that are dominant in academia at any time are unlikely to change -- in the minds of those who hold them. When / if change comes, it comes by displacement: the generation that holds them eventually dies off and is replaced by scholars with other ideas. At least, that appears to be the way it works in the sciences.

In the softer disciplines, it might not be so simple, since each generation struggles to reproduce its ideas in the one to come -- and seldom lets the process be impeded by facts. Indeed, the Left is now armed with a new weapon: the idea that there are no facts, that reality is a "social construction," which could easily be made into whatever they like, if enough people believed the right things.

And on that note, I believe I will pull the covers over my head and hope to awaken in a better time.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit the Palace Of Reason: http://palaceofreason.com

7 posted on 11/03/2001 8:31:42 AM PST by fporretto
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To: Sci Fi Guy
I assume that this paper is for undergrad work? I had a college professor who just got his phd say that you never never never argue or disagree with the professors when you are going for a phd. The key is to choose a post grad program that you agree with.

You are soooooo right. I have seen first hand how outspoken phd candidates are punished. After one "mis-statement", they languish in the program for years, slaving away doing the professor's research, not being credited in publications that steal their research ideas, their dissertations constantly criticized. Finally, they pass the time limit and are forced out of the program. I have seen more than one life ruined this way.

8 posted on 11/03/2001 8:31:56 AM PST by EarlyBird
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To: Coastman5
I remember a funny moment where this moron from Carnegie-Melon boasted about how he thinks Bush is dumb and it's true because everyone at his school thinks the same thing.
9 posted on 11/03/2001 8:42:52 AM PST by Bogey78O
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To: Coastman5
The only way to get liberalism out of the media and major universities is carpet bombing. College campuses are cesspools.
10 posted on 11/03/2001 8:48:05 AM PST by Always Right
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To: dubyagee
I can just see the test:

If x = thousands of dead Afghani civilians, and f(x) = Tomahawk missle, and y = millions of $ spent by evil Republicans, and a = one grandchild...

11 posted on 11/03/2001 8:55:40 AM PST by real saxophonist
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To: cartoonistx
cx posted, "I disagree. The next generation of college profs will tend to be even more extreme than this one. Although the extreme they swing to may be National Socialism (NAZI), but of course they'll call it something else."

I'm in total agreement with you! Your timing is a little off as the current 30 to 40 something group of professors are full blown Neo Nazis. They believe that only with Federal and state socialism (ie Nazi) can anything be done in this country! The past 8 years under X42 and his Nazi Lesbo Jake Reno are proof of this!

Just look at the hullaboo re making the new Airport Security people workers Federal Workers and of course Federal Union members. Even the socialists in Europe abandonen these programs of nationalizing their Airport security programs as they could not fire the bad people. All of this socialism comes from the evil left wing think tanks manned by socialists and the Neo Nazis!

National Health insurance, national free drugs for the elderly, national educational programs for our schools are just a couple of prime new National Socialist Programs that these left wing think tanks manned by National Socialist Professors have come up with.

All of these new Nazi Programs come from the Neo Nazi Professors in our liberal universities who preach that nothing can be done unless we raise taxes and turn all problems over to the National Socialists (New Nazis).

Gray Davis has stepped beyond the New Nazis, he is now a neo Facist who wants to control every business in California from the power companies to those who use electricity! He is no different than Mussolini, and he is the most dangerous demonicRat in power in America.

We have seen worthless young men the ages of our sons get degrees that are worthless, then get jobs as graduate students to get their masters in that worthless degree, then become asst. professors while working on their PhD's in that worthless degree. Now as mid 30 somethings, they are professors spreading the National Socialism stuff to their students and hand picking their graduate student helpers and future phd asst. professors! I can guarantee you that zero conservatives are in these future Professor OJT programs. Each generation is even more liberal, more Nazi and becoming more of a facist like Davis!

This has been going on since 1932 across America and in the NE since WWI! We have tolerated it, ignored them and paid for their treason with our tax $'s, tuition $'s for our children and donations as alumni to these left wing viper nests!

12 posted on 11/03/2001 8:59:20 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Coastman5
It's time to end, once and for all, the disgusting tenure system. Who else has a lifetime job, except perhaps some federal judges?
13 posted on 11/03/2001 9:02:38 AM PST by Tax Government
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To: EarlyBird
I have seen more than a few friends suffer for attempting to beard lions in their dens. Being a generally sneaky and subversive person, I would always find a desk with a good view of the other students and watch their body language for signs of disagreement with the professor and then waylay them after class for some impromptu tutoring of my own. They almost always were relieved to know that someone else agreed with them.

As for Phd programs and the future of our institutions, I am heartened by what I see as a more moderate to conservative bent among the candidates. While I admit, I attend one of the more conservative schools, Mississippi State, I would say that 80% of the graduate students in our history department are conservative. I think this is largely due to the fact that MSU is more of an A&M institution rather than liberal arts. Regards, Flying E

15 posted on 11/03/2001 9:12:51 AM PST by flying Elvis
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To: Coastman5
The Founding Fathers often resolved such disputes with duels. These affairs were conducted according to strict rules. Sometimes one of the parties to a duel died.

Since dueling was a high risk business, people like your professor there sought to avoid insults and behavior that would precipitate a duel - particularly with a much younger man.

Next time you need to pick a topic, look into the history of dueling in America. Point out how the elimination of this practice has resulted in the coarsening of behavior, particularly among the educated classes.

16 posted on 11/03/2001 9:20:21 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Coastman5
It cracks me up when a school brags about how many tenured professors they have. Its not something to brag about.
17 posted on 11/03/2001 9:31:59 AM PST by culpeper
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To: dahlilaso
Welcome, newbie! Always glad to have a new family member--except if you are a commie, pinko, facist pig, peacenik, love either one or both clintons, or are glad that Geraldo is going to FNC. Just kidding, welcome!
18 posted on 11/03/2001 9:44:13 AM PST by In mourning for six years
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To: flying Elvis
As for Phd programs and the future of our institutions, I am heartened by what I see as a more moderate to conservative bent among the candidates. While I admit, I attend one of the more conservative schools, Mississippi State, I would say that 80% of the graduate students in our history department are conservative. I think this is largely due to the fact that MSU is more of an A&M institution rather than liberal arts. Regards, Flying E

I'm in a science department at my university. You wouldn't think there'd be much political agitation surrounding quantum physics or materials science, but there is. Everyone in the department is very liberal. I don't even want to go into the happenings that took place there during the 2000 election crisis.

Science faculty, moreover, have great power in universities. They get the lucrative governmental research grants and bring in millions of dollars to the university each year. A student complaint filed against them is an exercise in futility.

Thankfully, I am staff here, and not a student. My undergraduate major is history, however, so I too am heartened to learn of the conservative leanings at Mississippi State. Maybe I'll transfer there to finish my 15-year program. ;)

19 posted on 11/03/2001 9:52:03 AM PST by EarlyBird
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To: real saxophonist
If x = thousands of dead Afghani civilians, and f(x) = Tomahawk missle, and y = millions of $ spent by evil Republicans, and a = one grandchild...

See, my conservative logic says:

x(4 American planes used as weapons of mass destruction) +
y(thousands of radicals who despise America) =
z(bomb,bomb,bomb, buy more bombs, bomb,bomb,bomb, buy more bombs....).

Guess that's why I'm taking Algebra at this late age, my logic has never added up to theirs....go figure....

20 posted on 11/03/2001 9:52:52 AM PST by dubyagee
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To: EarlyBird
The faculty in the history department isn't very conservative, but they are at least tolerant of conservatives which is more than I can say about many schools. I too am from Georgia, but avoided UGA after hearing horror stories from grad students about the hostility towards conservatives by the history department faculty.
21 posted on 11/03/2001 10:12:31 AM PST by flying Elvis
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To: flying Elvis
Yeah, I was trying to finish my history degree at Georgia State after serving for 5 years in the Army. Being an army brat to begin with, I was disgusted with the rampant liberalism I found.

Not only that, I was appalled at being accused of plagarism when I wrote some history papers. The faculty just couldn't believe any student of theirs could write so well. That was the only basis for the accusation, I kid you not. I had to produce my rough drafts to prove I had written my own papers.

Oh, and how can I forget? One of my English composition papers was stolen from the desk of the Polish exchange professor who was teaching the course -- yes I know, how ridiculous for a Polish national to be teaching English -- and appeared on the street for sale to other students. Another student submitted it in the next quarter and, again, I had to produce my rough drafts to prove I had written it.

I quit the whole disgusting thing with only a quarter's worth of credit left to go. I now have a good job to support my family, and am educating myself -- an education, I might add, that will never end.

22 posted on 11/03/2001 10:34:20 AM PST by EarlyBird
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To: Coastman5
You are a very brave young person in a tough situation. I went to your link and see that you have had other problems at your school. I wish the best for you. Continue your fight and I will keep you in my prayers.
23 posted on 11/03/2001 10:37:51 AM PST by austingirl
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To: The Bat Lady; basil; TheSarce; DrewsDad; Jonx6; Bad~Rodeo; groundhog; anymouse; tarawa
Interesting story here about a brave young conservative college student fighting an uphill battle on campus.
25 posted on 11/03/2001 10:40:29 AM PST by austingirl
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To: Coastman5
Why are you taking Sociology? That was your first mistake. "Social Science" is just an acceptable term for socialist studies.

Change your major to science, and you won't have professors like this one. Well, on second thought, change your school too.

26 posted on 11/03/2001 10:45:24 AM PST by giotto
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To: dubyagee
I'm beginning to think it must be a job requirement for college professors to be left-leaning..(snip)..THIS IS ALGEBRA FOR GOODNESS SAKES.

Thanks for checking in.
Despite what you often read in this forum, there are PLENTY of left-wing nut jobs
in the hard/physical sciences of academia.

It may be not as prevalent as in the humanities or social sciences...but in some sense
it's more disheartening to find it in the physical sciences.
These are supposed to be the last line of defense to defend the use of objective/empirical
truth as a way to guide us to new progress.
But I guess I should not be shocked. This is the way Soviet genetics was
perverted and caused millions to starve. I won't be suprised if it happens here
in the next 50 years.
27 posted on 11/03/2001 10:50:22 AM PST by VOA
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To: EarlyBird
You are soooooo right. I have seen first hand how outspoken phd candidates are punished. After one "mis-statement", they languish in the program for years, slaving away doing the professor's research, not being credited in publications that steal their research ideas, their dissertations constantly criticized. Finally, they pass the time limit and are forced out of the program. I have seen more than one life ruined this way.

Just for comparison's sake, the old-line liberals I had 40 years ago, LOVED to get students to disagree with them and always treated them(us) fairly. But these radicals are another story.

28 posted on 11/03/2001 10:52:55 AM PST by RobbyS
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Does that mean they'll go to a big pro-illegal drug agenda?
29 posted on 11/03/2001 10:57:21 AM PST by A CA Guy
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To: EarlyBird
"Finally, they pass the time limit and are forced out of the program. I have seen more than one life ruined this way. "

Remember about 20 years ago there a phd candidate who kept getting the run around from his Prof.? This went on for years until one day the guy took a hammer to his Prof.s' head.

The Prof. died and the guy is no longer a phd candidate.

30 posted on 11/03/2001 11:06:36 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
As a matter of fact, one of these unfortunate souls, who spends his time now cutting wood for a living in the delta of Arkansas, returns to haunt the university every graduation day.

This former student emails his former professor each year to inform him of his graduation attendance plans. The campus police are called and are informed of the impending threat by the frightened professor (there are standing injunctions prohibiting this student from approaching said professor). Upon his arrival on campus, the police surround the former student and follow his every movement. He goes directly to the ceremonies and stands motionless behind the crowd, waiting to see if his former professor is sponsoring any graduates. At the appearance of the professor, the poor soul narrows his eyes and stares with such effort at the professor that it is thought that he is trying to cast a spell.

After the ceremony, he politely thanks the police and departs peaceably.

31 posted on 11/03/2001 11:40:53 AM PST by EarlyBird
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To: dubyagee
According to you, and many other unthinking FReepers, including apparently the author and the poster, all people of a given title are exactly the same: e.g., All professors are leftists.

You couldn't be more wrong.

My request to you: Don't let PC have its right-wing version; try some critical thinking instead.

32 posted on 11/03/2001 11:57:00 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Rudder
I have as of yet to take a class from a conservative professor who wasn't fair to students who disagreed with them. The only hostility I have encountered came from leftist professors belittling students who dared to have already formed an opinion before entering their classrooms.
33 posted on 11/03/2001 12:33:55 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: flying Elvis
At least you acknowledge that all professors are not leftists. I think that professors, like the rest of the USA, come in many different political persuasions.
34 posted on 11/03/2001 1:07:21 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Always Right
Did you say bombing?
35 posted on 11/03/2001 1:17:12 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Coastman5
tenured commies should all be put in the public stocks and a barrel of rotten tomatoes supplied for public ammo!!

where are you joe mc carthy, now that we need you?

i'm sure mike savage will comment on this at some time or other. he just 'LOVES' to rip the 'ginsburg-ferlinghetti' types!

36 posted on 11/03/2001 1:23:45 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: muawiyah
The Founding Fathers often resolved such disputes with duels

All for it, being a long-time fan of the Aaron Burr Dueling Society.

37 posted on 11/03/2001 1:26:01 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Coastman5
I spent 7-1/2 years in college and universities. I think the big change to liberalism started about 1968.

Also, pure science chemistry classes started being dominated by orientals in about 1972 and you could not understand the T.A.s. They never could say molecular configuration where anyone could understand them.

I am still ticked about that one.

38 posted on 11/03/2001 1:32:17 PM PST by Rogmonster
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To: Rudder
According to you, and many other unthinking FReepers, including apparently the author and the poster, all people of a given title are exactly the same: e.g., All professors are leftists.

I am in an ALGEBRA class. My teacher is supposed to be teaching ALGEBRA. The comments he's made in class regarding politics are completely unnecessary. The comments also show he leans to the left. This is my FIRST college course and I'm already encountering the indoctrination that our "fresh out of high school" kids are exposed to.

I am not UNTHINKING. I'm quite certain there are some neutral professors out there. But I'm also certain they are FEW and far between....

39 posted on 11/03/2001 1:40:23 PM PST by dubyagee
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To: Rebelbase
"Remember about 20 years ago there a phd candidate who kept getting the run around from his Prof.? This went on for years until one day the guy took a hammer to his Prof.s' head."

I sure do remember that.
The grad candidate was attempting a PhD in Mathematics, I believe.

So it wasn't just some Liberal Arts whacko majoring in "Basket Weaving" flipping-out to the Maxwell's Silver Hammer theme.
The, "Prof" screwed with the wrong person, at the wrong time: & >doink< ...F=Ma.

40 posted on 11/03/2001 1:42:59 PM PST by Landru
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To: dubyagee
Stick around and you'll meet some of us conservatives as well.
41 posted on 11/03/2001 1:43:43 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Coastman5
Your move is to get out of there asap with a degree. There's no point fighting with these fossils. It's okay to take some of this stuff (sociology, etc.) at the undergraduate level if you are just looking for easy marks to get into law school or something. You absolutely don't want to go anywhere near this stuff at the graduate school level.

BTW, in the essay The Killings in Trinidad V.S. Naipaul describes how Michael De Freitas, a Black Power ideologue, was imprisoned under the British Race Relations Act in about 1968 or so. He had given a fire-breathing speech about protecting the black woman by killing the white man. The speech was given to a crowd of white liberals - a radical chic moment, which Naipaul described as "a bit of harmless cabaret" given because the black radical "was expected to perform". You can probably find it published as a paperback under the title The Return of Eva Peron and The Killings in Trinidad. Your professor sounds like a typical toe tag leftist, but he might actually turn out to be right about "hate crimes" law. In the future they might be applied against blacks who attack others.

42 posted on 11/03/2001 1:55:28 PM PST by TheMole
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To: Rudder
I plan to. My children won't be very far behind me. I've already rejected the left's indoctrination one time. My hope is my children will do the same....
43 posted on 11/03/2001 2:37:53 PM PST by dubyagee
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To: austingirl
We need to encourage this. College students naturally want to rebel against authority. Since most universities are now run by tyranical leftists, there is a potential for conciencious students to fight the leftist doctorine cheating them out of a dignified future.

The only difficulty is that they have had 12+ years of liberal indoctrination prior to reaching college. Therefore home schooling is the only hope of producing our future leaders.

44 posted on 11/03/2001 5:28:21 PM PST by anymouse
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To: Coastman5
You have a lot of guts going against liberalism in college. God bless you. Please keep us in touch about every problem you get into. Your education is in danger. It's not right. But you will find a lot of support here. So never give up contacting us. Every scar you bear will provide you with more support. And perhaps you would be better off at Liberty University when it's all over. Just a thought. You can even get degrees online. Freegards....
45 posted on 11/08/2001 6:33:41 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: muawiyah
Next time you need to pick a topic, look into the history of dueling in America. Point out how the elimination of this practice has resulted in the coarsening of behavior, particularly among the educated classes.

Good point. I remember a few years ago, can't recall where, a doctoral candidate finally got fed up with the way he was abused and trivialized by his advisor. He murdered the s.o.b. But his action was not considered "honorable" like duels used to be. He's languishing in prison somewhere right now.

46 posted on 11/08/2001 6:46:04 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Coastman5
On the first or second day of class he told us about a student's paper that dealt with a pro-child sex agenda.

And he frequently brings the letter up. I get the impression he does not say anything in disagreement with that letter. A closet pedophile perhaps.

47 posted on 11/08/2001 6:46:12 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Rebelbase
Sorry -- didn't read the entire thread before posting.
48 posted on 11/08/2001 6:46:52 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: TheMole
The problem is that agreeing with them, even if it's only to escape with a degree, is habit forming. Besides, once you compromise your intellectual integrity, you're no better than they are.

Far better to implement a free market solution and find an institution that actually believes in and supports freedom of thought. Do we need new metrics to evaluate colleges? Perhaps the Wall Street Journal or the National Review would like to carve off a piece of the university review business...

49 posted on 11/08/2001 7:07:15 AM PST by 5by5
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To: Coastman5
Well, truly, I have been quite suspecting that he would have heard about me since the police have investigated me, the victim – not the suspects, after I received a death threat. The police refused to question anyone in the matter for months, even the people who witnessed it.

I've always been a strong believer that a piece of paper is not what should matter. It is what you know and learn. But then again, I flip burgers for a living. I tried college a little. Could not stand it. I looked at the text books. Most of it was trivia padding. So I read the important chapters and moved on.

For the first five years, I learned a lot while in fast food. But now, I don't learn much there. I watch people go through the same phases I went through. Freegards....

50 posted on 11/08/2001 7:18:17 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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