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Look at the Wooly Worm I found! Long winter or short?
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Posted on 11/04/2001 5:23:53 PM PST by lawgirl

Yesterday I was cleaning my house, and I went to pick up what I thought was a piece of cardboard box. It was a wooly worm!! (An inch-long caterpillar that looks and feels like a thick pipe cleaner and appears in the autumn.) After screaming, dropping him and probably scaring him half to death, I called my husband to come and pick him up (hehe). Anyway, we both noticed what huge brown stripe he had on his back. Growing up in Iowa, I remember there was an old Indian's tale about being able to predict what the winter was going to be like by how thick the brown stripe was on the back of the wooly worm, but I can't remember how it goes. Does a thick stripe mean a long winter or a mild one??? I would love it if someone could "read the wooly worm" and tell me which way it is! Anyway, here is a photo of him- isn't he cute?



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1 posted on 11/04/2001 5:23:53 PM PST by lawgirl
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To: lawgirl
I think you have discovered a remnant of Osama Bin Ladens beard. He got blowed up, and the fragment must have landed in your house..

Just in case, feed it some bacon :)

2 posted on 11/04/2001 5:26:54 PM PST by Paradox
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To: lawgirl
EEEeeek! **passing out**

All right, I am ok now. Living in California, I have absolutely no idea what a long winter is! LOL

Anyway, I guess I am not the right person to ask about this. :(

3 posted on 11/04/2001 5:28:37 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc
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To: sirgawain; *cheesewatch; OWK
Do you like cheese?
4 posted on 11/04/2001 5:30:01 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: mtngrl@vrwc
Ive heard about that tale, im not for sure though, i have a gut feeling that it means a long winter though.
5 posted on 11/04/2001 5:30:27 PM PST by Husker24
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To: lawgirl
Grandma back in Kentucky would say get ready for a cold one. Good catch.
6 posted on 11/04/2001 5:31:24 PM PST by BigBlueJon
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To: Paradox; mtngrl@vrwc
ROFL!!!!

mtngrl- well not ALL of us can live in the land of the eternal summer! LOL! Do you mean you've never seen a wooly worm?

7 posted on 11/04/2001 5:33:48 PM PST by lawgirl
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To: lawgirl
A thick stripe like that means a winter of apocalyptic proportions. I'm stocking up on six month's worth of food, water and Cipro right away. Thanks !!!
8 posted on 11/04/2001 5:35:20 PM PST by kristinn
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To: lawgirl
I thought this was a wooly worm:


9 posted on 11/04/2001 5:36:22 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: lawgirl; SLB; logos; the irate magistrate; pocat; Liberty's Pen
Here in Kentucky they even have a Wooly 'Worm' celebration/festival. I don't know how to read them though.
10 posted on 11/04/2001 5:36:25 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: lawgirl
This winter will be colder than last summer. I guarantee it.
11 posted on 11/04/2001 5:37:00 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: lawgirl
I was golfing this week and saw a few wooly worms on some of the putting greens. Here in Dallas they were a lovely color..hummmm...like burnt orange. I had to "do away" with the critters as they were in my line. What does it all mean?
12 posted on 11/04/2001 5:37:12 PM PST by nagdt
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To: lawgirl
The width of the brown bands on the banded woolly worm is used as a winter indicator. Wider brown bands are said to indicate milder winters. This means that the more black the woolly worm has the more harsh the winter will be. All black woolly worms indicate severe winters.

I don't know about any grammas in Kentucky, but mine in East Tennessee would predict a mild winter, if she were to observe the abnormally wide brown band on the referenced wooly bear.

13 posted on 11/04/2001 5:39:16 PM PST by SarahW
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To: lawgirl
About Woollybears...
14 posted on 11/04/2001 5:39:19 PM PST by Keith in Iowa
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To: lawgirl
I think a thicker, wider stripe means a colder, longer winter with more snowfall.
15 posted on 11/04/2001 5:39:40 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: lawgirl
The "wooly worm" or "wooly bear" has 13 bands representing the 13 weeks of winter. The darker the band, the colder and snowier that week. (Which is strange to me, because where I live, when it gets really cold, it doesn't snow.)

Here's the link.

16 posted on 11/04/2001 5:40:51 PM PST by Gordian Blade
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To: nagdt
You killed them? Ohmygosh! Expect to re-live the elections mess over again and again until a groundhog shows up. Hmmm. Or something like that...

/john

17 posted on 11/04/2001 5:41:13 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: lawgirl
Brace yourself lawgirl,get those long-johns out,and stay tuned for ol'man winter, cause he's a'coming!
18 posted on 11/04/2001 5:41:29 PM PST by lovemycody
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To: lawgirl
Nope, I have never, ever seen a wooly worm. 'Course, maybe it's because I faint everytime I see any creepy crawly creatures! LOL!
19 posted on 11/04/2001 5:42:04 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc
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Don't know if this is true or not, but Farmer's Alamnac (supposedly) says if you see snow in October, it's gonna be a nasty winter. Well, we had flurries that stuck to anything that what was cold enough to stick to about a week before the 31st. I went out today and cut two bed's full of burnable stock -Ram with an 8 foot bed-. That is on top of the two cords I already have. (Note, when I went out this a.m., it was 31 degrees...western PA). However, I digress, everytime I try to predict a bad winter, it is always a pleasant one. Deeming as though I love winter, I am this year predicting a pleasant one..Will wait to see what happens..
20 posted on 11/04/2001 5:42:24 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: lawgirl
You didn't squash it did you? For victory & freedom!!!
21 posted on 11/04/2001 5:44:02 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: kristinn; BigBlueJon; Pokey78; Fred Mertz
A thick stripe like that means a winter of apocalyptic proportions. I'm stocking up on six month's worth of food, water and Cipro right away. Thanks !!!

That is what I was afraid of!!!

bigBlueJon; FredMertz- My husband is from Kentucky and we JUST moved from there. I miss the Bluegrass already! :-D

Pokey78- ROFLMAO!!!!!

22 posted on 11/04/2001 5:44:03 PM PST by lawgirl
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To: lawgirl
North Carolina Weather Lore

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North Carolina Traditional Weather Lore

Back in the early days, when plants and animals were first made, they were told to fast and stay awake for seven days to gain spirit power. All were anxious to gain power so they tried to do as instructed and most were able to stay awake through the first night. The next night some started to fall asleep, and by the third night many of them were asleep. By the seventh night, only a few of the animals were awake. The panther, the owl and one or two others managed to stay awake and as their reward they were given the power to see and go about in the dark. Many of the plants also fell asleep and of the trees, only the cedar, the spruce, the pine, the holly, and the laurel were able to stay awake. As their reward, these were allowed to be always green, while the others must lose their leaves in the fall.


James Mooney, in his important work, 
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relates the Cherokee's explanation for fall.

These are some of the more popular North Carolina folk sayings about autumn and the weather. Many variations exist and have been reported in numerous sources, including the Old Farmer's Almanac, the Foxfire series, and the collections of the NC Folklore Society. All of them are guaranteed to be true (sometimes).


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23 posted on 11/04/2001 5:44:54 PM PST by teletech
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To: mtngrl@vrwc
In response to POST 3... shouldn't there be a **THUD** there????ROFL
24 posted on 11/04/2001 5:45:31 PM PST by Roger_W_Isom
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
From

http://www.tnfb.com/communications/

READ ALL ABOUT IT 
by Pettus L. Read 
Tennessee Farm Bureau 

for week of April 9, 2001 

Sleeping In The Moonlight Can Cause Insanity 

     In this day of computers, modern science, and economic well-being for some folks, one fact still remains, the folklore and superstitions of one generation continues to be passed down to the next. Just as in years gone by, “old wives’ tales” still help many of us explain life and just why some things happen. How many times during the day, do you avoid stepping on a crack, breaking a mirror, walking under a ladder or drive out of your way to keep a black cat from crossing your path? To many of us, these avoidances are second nature and are something we practice because we have been taught that they are all bad luck. 
     Whether they are fact or fiction, these old wives’ tales are here to stay, even for those of us who are the more cynical non-believers. We may not believe them, but we don’t want to take a chance just in case there may be something to all of the many different folklore sayings. 
     Superstition and folklore are used to pick the right time to plant and harvest crops, achieve good luck or bad, and even to predict a certain action or happening. 
     Over the years, I have filed away several of the familiar and not-so-familiar tales. For example, if a woman carries an acorn in her pocket, she’ll never grow old. I know several who have tried this, and the only thing they have accomplished is preventing a lot of oak trees from growing old. 
Another one is sleeping in the moonlight can cause insanity. That reminds me. I have got to get that shade in our bedroom fixed. 
     If you happen to be a single woman, there are a few things you may do to find Mr. Right. 
One is to put a four-leaf clover on your door and you’ll marry the first bachelor who comes in that particular door. As I have said, I am a cynical non-believer and if this was true, four-leaf clovers would soon become a curse to bachelors like garlic is to vampires. Round-Up would become a rare item due to over purchasing by single guys. 
     If you want to know the name of your husband-to-be, put a snail in a plate of corn meal and leave it overnight. The snail will spell the initials of the person you’ll marry. If the snail does not write out the initials, he is already breaded, so enjoy some escargot. 
     If you are looking for rain, here are a few things to watch for. 
     When the dew is on the grass, rain will never come to pass. Cute poem, huh? 
     If it rains before seven, it’ll quit before eleven. 
     It will rain within three days if you see a black snake in a tree. When I see a snake in a tree that I am under, rain is the least of my worries. 
     Trees with the underside of the leaves showing mean a “bad” storm is on its way. However, a tree without leaves and limbs, means a bad storm has already happened. 
     When the grass is dry at morning light, look for rain before the night. Another cute poem, huh? 
     The one that always confuses me, is how to tell the weather from a wooly worm. I never know if it is going to be a bad winter if he is all black or all orange. So I looked it up. Here is what a famous folklore book said, “ The black band on the wooly worm is wide if there is going to be a bad winter. The more black than brown he is, and/or the wider the black stripe, the worse the winter. If he’s black in front, the bad weather is to come; and if he’s black behind, the worst weather is past. If he’s brown at both ends and orange in the middle, the winter will be mild. It’ll be a bad winter if you see him crawling before the first frost.” However, if he is flat, it means he is too slow for a fast car. 
     Being a cynical non-believer causes me to question many of these, but the one about the snail still has my attention. I am still trying to figure out how that snail in the cornmeal knows how to write English. 
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- Pettus L. Read is editor of the Tennessee Farm Bureau News and Director of Communications for the Tennessee Farm Bureau Federation. He may be contacted by e-mail at pread@tfbf.com 


25 posted on 11/04/2001 5:46:36 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Fred Mertz; lawgirl
Hey, they have a Wooly Bear Festival in Cleveland too!!
26 posted on 11/04/2001 5:46:49 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: Fred Mertz; lawgirl
The surest sign of a long, cold and bitter winter is that you find nothing but frozen wooley worms. Wooley worms that are still twitchin' indicate a not-so-bad winter. The width and colors of the bands mean nothing.

And when you find a wooley worm wearing long johns, he's playin' a trick on you.

27 posted on 11/04/2001 5:48:10 PM PST by logos
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To: Pokey78
In response to post 9... THAT was AWFUL!!! ROFL** SLAP** **SLAP** Go back to HTML BOOT CAMP!!! ROFL DI WILL NOT BE PLEASED!!! ROFL
28 posted on 11/04/2001 5:48:21 PM PST by Roger_W_Isom
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To: Saundra Duffy
OH NO! Nope I didn't squash him- we took his photo and then my husband took him outside and let him go. Our cats sure were interested! In that photo he is sitting on a business card of my husband's and when we lowered him a little for the cats to take a look, they knocked him off the card and he was a little shook up! LOL! I scooped him back on the card and he kind of took a minute and then he was ok LOL! The cats were fascinated, and totally scared of it LOL!

Ted: "Look at the Wooly Worm my mom found!!! I wanted to eat it!"

29 posted on 11/04/2001 5:50:15 PM PST by lawgirl
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To: lawgirl
That's a "wool bear moth caterpiller". We have LOTS of those here! I'm a cranberry grower in Oregon, and I constantly pick them out of the bogs when we harvest. Some say that middle stipe on their back (how big or little it is) will determine if you're going to have a cold or warm winter. LOL. But I don't know which determines which. Cute, aren't they!
30 posted on 11/04/2001 5:51:59 PM PST by Bump in the night
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To: lawgirl
I can't beleive the luck. I am looking for someone versed in folk lore myself. I have lived in this house for 22 years and while we have always had a mole or two make a mound or two this year we have at least 5 and the theory of how the Rocky Mountains were formed is being challanged here on the North Coast of Upstate Calif. Each of these critters is forming at least two large mounds a day. Any ideas?
31 posted on 11/04/2001 5:52:41 PM PST by tubebender
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To: nagdt
Could mean you'll get a visit from the PETA gang. ;-)
32 posted on 11/04/2001 5:54:53 PM PST by katze
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To: lawgirl
A careful analysis of your wooly worm reveals that
it will get cold this winter
and then warm up in the spring.
Hope this helps...
33 posted on 11/04/2001 5:55:37 PM PST by error99
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To: lawgirl
Just make sure there's not 100 more of them eating your wool clothes somewhere in the house.

Here's my personal favorite insect, the rosy maple moth:


34 posted on 11/04/2001 5:56:30 PM PST by DaughterofEve
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To: lawgirl
AWWWWWWWWW!!!! to Ted!
35 posted on 11/04/2001 5:57:04 PM PST by DaughterofEve
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To: lawgirl
Lucky you! I live in Texas and last spring I noticed a dead leaf on the carpet. I reached down to pick it up and then for some reason stopped short. I Looked closer.......IT WAS A SCORPION!!! YIKES!!!
36 posted on 11/04/2001 5:57:08 PM PST by Theresa
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To: Roger_W_Isom
Oh yeah, **Thud**!

Thanks for reminding me!

37 posted on 11/04/2001 5:57:08 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc
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To: lawgirl
After showing me your woolyworm,are you going to let me touch it?

Actually,I'm in the long cold winter set.
This summer was relatively cool so I figure winter will be extra cool too.

Gad,I hate summer,was glad when the Monsoon season finally arrived.Next,snow and a reason to be glad about standing in front of a fire.

38 posted on 11/04/2001 5:58:17 PM PST by tet68
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To: lawgirl
Uh oh, I'm pretty sure that means Hillary will win the 2004 election, time to "bug out" ....
39 posted on 11/04/2001 6:01:25 PM PST by Scythian
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To: tet68
Is this going to be a new pick-up line?
Hey, wanna see my wooly worm?
40 posted on 11/04/2001 6:02:30 PM PST by error99
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To: Theresa
Hmmmm...I guess I'm truly vexed.

Our house is being totally over-run with woolyworms, and scorpions.

I've never seen anything like this before.

41 posted on 11/04/2001 7:19:45 PM PST by Dallas
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To: Pokey78
I thought this was a wooly worm:

No, that's a shaggy WORM!

42 posted on 11/04/2001 7:33:23 PM PST by Jolly Green
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To: lawgirl
Fred is ascared of the wooly worm!

Your kitty is a real cutie!

43 posted on 11/04/2001 7:38:26 PM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: error99
Behave yourself! ;-)
44 posted on 11/04/2001 7:39:03 PM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Snow Bunny
"Sleeping In The Moonlight Can Cause Insanity"

Oh, thank you for that. I FINALLY know what's wrong with me and what caused it.

45 posted on 11/04/2001 7:41:00 PM PST by JudyB1938
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To: Texaggie79
Do you like cheese?

Cheese?! Did somebody say, "CHEESE"????? rofl

46 posted on 11/04/2001 7:42:41 PM PST by Wake up and smell the cheese
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To: BigWaveBetty
ACK! Fred!! Fred wants to eat Ted!
47 posted on 11/04/2001 7:46:01 PM PST by lawgirl
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To: BigWaveBetty
Why, madam, I'm certain that you must have taken what I said the wrong way...
(wink)
48 posted on 11/04/2001 7:46:15 PM PST by error99
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To: BigWaveBetty
That critter in post 43 looks like it's about to
take a big bite out of whatever gets close enough.
49 posted on 11/04/2001 7:47:55 PM PST by error99
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To: BigWaveBetty
Now I was wondering.... In that picture of your cat... if you were to zoom out... would we see Hillary Clinton reaching to pet the cat? rofl
50 posted on 11/04/2001 7:50:29 PM PST by Wake up and smell the cheese
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