The B-52's Psychological impact

Tuesday, November 6, 2001 | self

[Diogenesis]

4/01 -- Paired B52s hit Deshitiquala

11/2/-1 bombing B52s in Tutakhan (25 mi from Kabul)

10/30/01

[Tuco-bad]

The war in Vietnam ended when we got serious about the war (i.e., Linebacker II).

The North Vietnamese ran back to the peace table to sign the armistice, when we began to pound North Vietnam in Operation Linebacker II.

We should have done that in 1965, and saved over 58,000 American lives, and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese lives plus the lives of our allies (i.e., South Korea, Australia, etc.)

I remember, and find it hard to forgive.

[4CJ]

Thank you for your service!

[Yankee]

Thanks for the great info.

Just watch out, there's some guy that hits every B-52 story and insists that it's BUF with one F.

Maybe he's given up now that he's been shown the error of his ways, but probably not.

My father's Godson guarded them at Offut in the seventies. He first told me the acronym and it's meaning. He told me it was BUFF with two Fs.

Being twelve or thirteen at the time, I was mighty impressed with that "cool" nickname.

[Chemnitz]

An article in Viet Nam magazine said the N. Vietnamese were ready to surrender and were advised to surrender (by the Chinese and Russians) during LBII. The Cubans said they should not. So we won and then left as if we had lost. It was shameful.

You are right. We could have done it in the beginning. LBJ let himself be manipulated by the Left. Like Clinton, he was a dictator and a terror to everyone who knew him, but weak and spineless as a leader of America.

[PokeyJoe]

I always read that it was "big ugly fat fu##er" = BUFF

[egarvue]

Ok, you gotta help us civvies out - what does "BUF" stand for? (I'm thinking of a very obvious one, but want to make sure).

[Yankee]

That's just what "cousin" Danny told me all those years ago.

Like I said, mighty impressive to an adolescent boy!

[TKEman]

Well, this time there is no advance warning. I have to admit, if I had 10 minute's warning, I would run like hell. These bombings have got to be taking a toll on the opposition. The problem in Vietnam was the advance warning. I can't see where the Taliban has such warning.

[Yankee]

"Big Ugly Fat Fellow" in mixed company.

Use your imagination on the last word, if you're just around the boys.

[MaxwellWolf]

What a hear-warming story!

[biblewonk]

Wow, 10 million 500lb bombs, 2.5 megatons but a lot more damage than any single 2.5 megaton nuke could ever do.

[LTCJ]

LBJ let himself be manipulated by the Left.

Manipulated by the Left? LBJ was the Left.

[Chemnitz]

I think LBJ had no position at all. The Caro study of LBJ's life showed a man who was utterly ruthless in pursuing power, eager to betray his best friends and those who helped him the most. (Reminds me of Joe Kennedy, another pathological adulterer.) His policies benefited the Left. He surrounded himself with the Left. It is a tribute to Reagan that he was able to undo so much damagage from LBJ, Nixon, and Carter.

Did Caro ever pursue his biography up to the point of the JFK murder? I don't think so. It would have been interesting and dangerous for such a good researcher.

[veracious]

WHAM it.

[Junior]

"...if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low (he spreads his arms like wings and laughs), you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard. President: Yeah, but has he got a chance? Turgidson: Has he got a chance? Hell, Ye...ye... (He covers his mouth dumbstruck, suddenly and solemnly grasping the implications of his words.)"

[ThomasMore]

I remember, and find it hard to forgive.

That war was controlled by the politicians and not the military. Those congressmen should have had their b*lls cut off. They were responsible for all the deaths, and they were responsible for the ugly anti-American protesting. I hate the memory of those days and despise anything that smacks of hippyism.

[lavaroise]

Gees, with contrails like these, they can be easily spoted. Air defense must be down.

[LTCJ]

You have a point. LBJ was out to advance LBJ.

My statement was based on the observation that LBJ walked like the Left, quacked like the Left, etc., making him indistingushable from the Left.

Ugly is as ugly does.