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To: ET(end tyranny)
The crucifixion references were in earlier posts. Go find them and actually read them IF you are interested. Which I sincerely doubt!

It's not a matter of interest, ET. Don't take this personally, but since I know Yeshua, the Risen Christ, very G-d from very G-d, it's not likely you will convince me. It's like you trying to convince me that my wife isn't a woman. You can provide all the proofs you want, but I have a proof that trumps them.

If you already know that the empty tomb is not enough to prove that Yeshua is G-d, then there isn't any point in my trying to convince you otherwise. I respect your position and you are welcome to it. If there is anything in any of the posts you made that would, if properly refuted, cause you to receive the Risen Lord as Your Lord then I will put in hours and hours, even on FR, although I would prefer face-to-face. I will even search through this thread to find it so I can address it.

There is only one such thing that would cause me to change my position, and you are welcome to provide it. If it exists, I truly want to know. It would mean that I am talking with a demon when I am communing with Yeshua, and I would stop immediately.

Prove that Yeshua was not raised from the dead.

Shalom.

255 posted on 11/09/2001 1:29:10 PM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
John 19:30-33

"When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him. But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:"

Ok, let's establish a timeline. They needed to remove Jesus from the cross because of the approaching Sabbath. Sabbath starts at about 6pm on Friday.

John 20 :1 "The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. 2 Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the LORD out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him"

The first day of the week, while it is still dark. Pre-dawn. Sunday is the first day of the week. So, how much time elapses between 6pm Friday and pre-dawn Sunday?

Friday night 6pm to Saturday night 6pm = 24 hours Saturday night 6pm til hmm pre-dawn Sunday... seems to be a slight problem here. It doesn't even come out to 48 hours, not even close to 48 hours. Maybe 36 hours, a day and a half, but not 72 hours!

Hmmmmm

256 posted on 11/09/2001 4:40:10 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: ArGee
Just in case you try as others, to say Jesus was not crucified on Friday......

"By law and custom, the Jewish people of Jesus' day took the Sabbath as a day of complete rest. Because no work could be done on the Sabbath, which we call Saturday, Friday came to be known as Preparation Day." (Josephus, Antiquities, Book XVI, Chapter 6.)

It was a day when food and other things needed for Saturday were prepared in advance. This is our first clue to the day of the crucifixion, because all four Gospels state that Jesus was crucified on Preparation Day, a Friday . This is also the common consensus of the Church Fathers and scholars throughout church history.

Judeans reckoned the 24-hour day from sunset-to-sunset. The Book of Leviticus, Chapter 33: "5 The LORD's Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month.."

The 3 nights and 3 days in the tomb, ARE NOT THERE!

Selah! (Think about it!)

I don't have to prove anything. The FACTS speak for themselves! But, I can hardly wait for your explanation as to the 'missing time'. Gee, maybe he was abducted by aliens! Horrors!

Another 'failed' prophecy. Which reminds me. You haven't addressed all the messianic requirements that Jesus failed to fulfill. See post #240, I have to keep this short, course that is no guarantee that you will READ it!

257 posted on 11/09/2001 5:54:10 PM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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