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Taliban loses Mazar-e-Sharif
Washington Times ^ | Saturday, November 10, 2001 | By Bill Gertz

Posted on 11/10/2001 1:34:00 AM PST by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:48:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Afghan opposition forces captured the strategic northern town of Mazar-e-Sharif yesterday as U.S. airstrikes pounded nearby Taliban positions, Taliban Defense Minister Obaidullah Akhund confirmed today.

"Yes, Mazar has gone," he told Reuters.

"The city and its airport are with the opposition. Our forces are in Tangi Tashgurghan," he said, referring to a town 40 miles east of Mazar-e-Sharif.


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Victory At Mazar-i-Sharif

For the presstitutes, who probably gulped their own swill of the invincible, unconquerable and indomitable 'Taliban', the scene of Northern Alliance rag-tags suavely breaching supposedly impermeable enemy lines at Mazar-i-Sharif yesterday was a harrowing reality check.

To the Taliban groupies at Reuters -- this ignominous enemy mouthpiece which hustles with wanton abandon every Taliban cock and bull they stumble upon -- this simply could not be happening, their glazed eyes, welling with tears, watching as Northern Alliance fighters waltz triumphantly into the city with nary any resistance.

Psst! Psst!

Where was the fabled, mythical Taliban?

Where were these 'brave', 'fierce', 'heroic', 'gutsy', 'valiant', 'towering' 'lionhearts' the media and 'experts' had been peddling for weeks?

Where were the 'fearless', 'battlehardened' 'warriors' of the Taliban -- whom, we were told, would remain 'defiant', would never surrender territory to those 'hated' 'infidels'?

For the press, the morbid events unfurling at Mazar-i-Sharif must have felt like watching a crummy movie with a lousy plot: The bad guys are winning! The bad guys are winning!

To the media crackpots, we -- America and our allies -- are the "bad guys", of course; the Taliban, the "good guys", in accordance with an old Arab proverb: To wit, the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend'.

The torrent of absurd/inflated/exaggerated claims by the media regarding the Taliban could fill ten Congressional libraries -- wall-to-wall.

Most 'experts' never gave the Northern Alliance a snowball's chance of advancing absent massive numbers of American ground troops to lead the way.

Their 'predictions' have passed from the sublime to the preposterous.

Apparently, the empty suits at Reuters et al, in their haste to cast the enemy as unbeatable Goliaths, blithely ignored the most salient lesson from Desert Storm: Never short-sell the men and women of our military.

Doubtless, the rebels' victorious advance on Mazar-i-Sharif -- this vital northern city which opens up pivotal munitions and logistical re-supply lines -- would not have been thinkable absent the searing bombardment from the air.

As with the Gulf war, air supremency was key in dismantling the enemy's defenses, even his will to fight.

But the newsies, all wrapped up in their bleeding-heart liberal, guilt-ridden, third-world gobbledygook, wouldn't know the first thing about military doctrine or the art of modern warfare if their lives depended on it.

The Four Estate seems interminably frozen in the mindset of Vietnam. It might well be wishful thinking -- ergo, a partisan yearning to see their nemesis, President George W. Bush, colossally defeated on an issue which traditionally has played to Republican strength, or it might just be abysmal ignorance.

Or maybe both.

Either way, filling the airwaves with unbridled distortions and half-truths does the public a hideous disservice.

Item: Bob Schiffer, CBSNEWS' chief Washington correspondent and host of Face The Nation, speculated openly on the Larry King show following the President's address, that the war, by his lights, "was not going well"; that the U.S. badly miscalculated how long it would take to defeat the Taliban.

All was pure speculation. No authoritative names or sources were cited.

Yet, this worthless clap-trap is trotted out as gospel each night on the news before millions of viewers.

Thankfully, however, all of the polls suggest the public, wisely, isn't buying it.

Memo to the 'armchair' "generals" and second-guessers: With the crushing defeat of the Taliban at Mazar-i-Sharif, your credibility is now in a death spiral.

God bless our President, God bless our troops, and God bless the United States of America!

My two cents..
"JohnHuang2"

Quote of the Day by Diogenesis


1 posted on 11/10/2001 1:34:00 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Right On, John!
2 posted on 11/10/2001 3:47:20 AM PST by ppaul
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To: JohnHuang2
I thought this was a terrific photo when I first came across it. It was taken about 25 miles outside of Kabul the morning before the attack by the Northern Alliance forces against the Taliban. The elements in the photo just speak volumes: The minaret in the background as the sun rises. Look at the determination on the hardened face of the young fighter ready for battle. Look at the worn steel on the machine gun - the heavy-duty ammunition carrier, the bullets loaded, ready. Imagine the death that will come blasting hot from its barrel later that day. I would hate to be on the receiving end. I wonder what happened to the young man in this photo? Is he still alive? What stories would he have to share of the battle?

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Link: .....next to his machine gun in the town of Gulbakhar

3 posted on 11/10/2001 4:09:50 AM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Hey, that's not a minaret. It's the light house at Cape Cod. For real, that's a great picture. A very handsome young soldier. I hope he lives to fight many a day.
4 posted on 11/10/2001 4:33:18 AM PST by randita
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To: JohnHuang2
Great essay, JH! I'd ping the essay compiler and judge, but I forget the handle--RJayne something. This one deserves a prize.
5 posted on 11/10/2001 4:34:50 AM PST by randita
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To: JohnHuang2
A simply outstanding bit of writing, JohnHuang2! It was a treat to read this morning. I hope every one of our little lurking media friends reads it and then can't forget it.
6 posted on 11/10/2001 4:46:43 AM PST by looscannon
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To: Irma; Howlin; Miss Marple
The article is good. JohnHuang2's follow-up is fantastic!
7 posted on 11/10/2001 4:49:13 AM PST by looscannon
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To: JohnHuang2; looscannon
BRILLIANT writing, JH2! Your writing talent and analysis simply amaze me! Thanks for the flag, loos....you're right. It IS a treat to read John's work this morning.

It's appalling to me that most in the media have attempted to mold this conflict into their made for TV war, complete with their own play-by-play liberal spinsters. Or in the case of Reuters, et. al, they've written misleading stories creating a conflict mirroring that of Viet-nam and portraying the Taliban as fierce and unbeatable. Fortunately, our military strategy has outsmarted our mighty press just as our President has and they'll be left once again to run back to their own war room with their tails between their legs to design once again their own biased press attacks.

8 posted on 11/10/2001 5:33:06 AM PST by Irma
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To: dirtboy; Dog Gone; Lady In Blue; LBGA; Teacup; mountaineer; sinkspur; deport; TexMex
Don't miss JH2's two cents!
9 posted on 11/10/2001 5:43:56 AM PST by Irma
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To: Irma; JohnHuang2
Great article, great news, and even greater 2¢. Thanks for the ping, Irma.

Remember the article about the Delta force raid that (supposedly) went so badly, and how the ferociousness of the Taliban fighters scared our special ops guys??? And yet, 1,000 soldiers on horseback can take a city in 30 minutes. It would seem that the press has been glorifying the wrong side.

10 posted on 11/10/2001 9:02:24 AM PST by LBGA
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To: JohnHuang2

Blue Mosque

Mazar-i-Sharif ("Tomb of The Chosen One") is home to the great Blue Mosque, Tomb Of Hazrat Ali, cousin and son-in-law of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH), the fourth caliph of Islam. The tomb was covered with earth to escape the ravage of Genghis Khan in 1220 and remained lost until it was uncovered during the rebuilding work in 1480s.

11 posted on 11/10/2001 9:07:09 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: JohnHuang2
Item: Bob Schiffer, CBSNEWS' chief Washington correspondent and host of Face The Nation, speculated openly on the Larry King show following the President's address, that the war, by his lights, "was not going well"; that the U.S. badly miscalculated how long it would take to defeat the Taliban.

How long have we been fighting, a month?? What an ignorant idiot.

12 posted on 11/10/2001 9:11:54 AM PST by bigjoesaddle
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To: Irma; All
JH2's essay is the best writing on FR today. BTTT
13 posted on 11/10/2001 2:53:13 PM PST by looscannon
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To: JohnHuang2; AuntB; nunya bidness; GrandmaC; Washington_minuteman; tex-oma; buffyt; Grampa Dave...
I found somebody's ping list. :^) You know, John - your 2 cents is worth much more than the original! So here goes your list - they should see this.
14 posted on 11/10/2001 3:26:05 PM PST by Billie
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To: bigjoesaddle
"Item: Bob Schiffer, CBSNEWS' chief Washington correspondent and host of Face The Nation, speculated openly on the Larry King show following the President's address, that the war, by his lights, "was not going well"; that the U.S. badly miscalculated how long it would take to defeat the Taliban."


15 posted on 11/10/2001 3:30:30 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Billie; JohnHuang2
Thanks for the flag Billie! I've been trying to get JH to post his editorials in their own right on their own posts, but I can't get the humble fellow to do it!

JH2-FR's resident editorialist!

16 posted on 11/10/2001 3:33:46 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: JohnHuang2
..."[President] Bush lies to his people when he claims to have destroyed the al Qaeda group and broken the ranks of the Taliban. The whole world laughs at his lies," Ayman Zawahri said in a television broadcast on the Qatari station Al Jazeera...

Now that was funny!

17 posted on 11/10/2001 3:40:57 PM PST by BufordP
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To: JohnHuang2
Four Estate seems interminably frozen in the mindset of Vietnam. It might well be wishful thinking -- ergo, a partisan yearning to see their nemesis, President George W. Bush, colossally defeated on an issue which traditionally has played to Republican strength, or it might just be abysmal ignorance.

Ignorance and twisted ideas about Communism. Like this gem in the Christian Science Monitor---- Unlike any other war in a half century, this war is being fought with the knowledge that the enemy can effectively attack the American people. That makes US soldiers more than an expeditionary force seeking an abstract goal halfway around the world. They are directly fighting to shield their nation from harm.

I know our military fought an evil called communists and they were never and are not today an abstract goal!

18 posted on 11/10/2001 3:56:05 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Billie
Thanks for the flag.
19 posted on 11/10/2001 3:56:48 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: JohnHuang2
Hehe, great post John, as usual! I love it!!!

Thanks for the flag, Billie.

20 posted on 11/10/2001 3:58:36 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Billie
BUMPY smooches!
21 posted on 11/10/2001 4:00:18 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: JohnHuang2
Nice job, John.

Bump!


22 posted on 11/10/2001 4:06:10 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Billie
Thanks Billie. Good news.
23 posted on 11/10/2001 4:17:31 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Texas2step; JohnHuang2
We'll have to keep working on him. I'm going to wear him down one of these days. :^)
24 posted on 11/10/2001 4:38:57 PM PST by Billie
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To: Phil V.
Uh-Huh. :^)
25 posted on 11/10/2001 4:40:30 PM PST by Billie
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To: JohnHuang2
One of your very best JH2. This one will win Essay of the year easily.

God Bless JohnHuang2 for all he does to make FreeRepublic the best source for news and analysis.

He is the real, NO SPIN ZONE!

26 posted on 11/10/2001 4:59:57 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: JohnHuang2; ppaul; Billie; RJayneJ
John- I loved your commentary. It's a 10+. You have nailed our press corp to the cross of foolish agenda driven by even more foolish reporters and journalists parading as so called experts in military prowess. The disservice they perform for our nation is not only insulting, but dangerous. I think it used to be called 'propaganda'.

PPaul-that picture is the stuff of Pulitzer.

billie-thanks for the ping!

27 posted on 11/10/2001 5:11:07 PM PST by Republic
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To: JohnHuang2
Bob Schiffer, CBSNEWS' chief Washington correspondent and host of Face The Nation, speculated openly on the Larry King show following the President's address, that the war, by his lights, "was not going well"; that the U.S. badly miscalculated how long it would take to defeat the Taliban.

I don't watch TV but I've heard this idiot many times on CBS-affiliate WTOP radio out of DC. He has few facts, apparently relying on in-house rumors and second-hand information. He has a knack for completely misreading a situation. And yet the boneheads at WTOP revere him as an unequalled political analyst. What a desert it must be there if a twig like him is considered a giant.

28 posted on 11/10/2001 5:30:39 PM PST by Steve1789
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To: Billie; JohnHuang2
Thanks for the heads up. Thought I saw a link to John's 2 cents somewhere last night.
29 posted on 11/10/2001 5:59:49 PM PST by quimby
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To: JohnHuang2; Billie
Billie thank you for pinging me to this thread of JH2's.

JH2 this is so fantastic what you wrote, I am sending to many on my private email list. Thank you soooo much. You are brillant.


30 posted on 11/10/2001 6:01:02 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Billie
OK, I found it. Here is the link:

Link to JohnHuang2's 2 cents

31 posted on 11/10/2001 6:08:23 PM PST by quimby
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To: quimby
Got it.
32 posted on 11/10/2001 6:12:57 PM PST by Buckeroo
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To: JohnHuang2; Billie
Memo to the 'armchair' "generals" and second-guessers: With the crushing defeat of the Taliban at Mazar-i-Sharif, your credibility is now in a death spiral.

God bless our President, God bless our troops, and God bless the United States of America!

My two cents..
"JohnHuang2"

Thanks for the ping.....as always JH2's two cents is priceless!

33 posted on 11/10/2001 6:15:21 PM PST by JulieRNR21
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To: Buckeroo
Got it.

Heh, heh. Got change for that 2 cents?

34 posted on 11/10/2001 6:15:47 PM PST by quimby
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To: JohnHuang2
JohnHuang2 ... You exceed expectations in your vivid description of the stark truth. Bookmarked for future referal. The lamestream media is crumbling along with the Tal-i-go-bams. It is a pleasure to watch them both fall.

Gravitas, who needs it when you have character. It is a pleasure to watch W as he brings in one world leader after another and they follow in his obvious leadership.

No wonder X42 looks and acts sick. America finally has a PRESIDENT again, that all the world can respect.

snooker

35 posted on 11/10/2001 6:19:29 PM PST by tarpon_bill
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To: quimby; Snow Bunny; JohnHuang2
Well, where'd he GO? Yoo Hoo, John - you're getting all these kudos you deserve - are you reading? Bunny, love that graphic.
36 posted on 11/10/2001 7:06:55 PM PST by Billie
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To: Cultural Jihad
What a magnificent mosque!
37 posted on 11/10/2001 7:30:26 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999; JohnHuang2

Shrine of Hazrat Ali, Balkh, Afghanistan, photographed in 1974. The shrine was built in Sanjar in 1136, destroyed by Genghis Khan, and rebuilt in 1481 by Husain Baigara.
(Image © Ric Ergenbright/Corbis)

Source: HTTP://EBOOKS.WHSMITHONLINE.CO.UK/ENCYCLOPEDIA/21/P0010521.HTM

Behold the different accounts; one (Post #11) says the tomb was buried and hidden by dirt to hide it from Genghis Khan and all but forgotten about, the other (this one) says it was destroyed by Genghis Khan and later rebuilt. Maybe the truth is somewhere in between.


Here's a photo of the inside of the tomb:

This page has a wonderful Islamic image gallery: http://www.ummah.net/moa-on-line/gallery/

38 posted on 11/10/2001 8:04:12 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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39 posted on 11/10/2001 8:11:06 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: JohnHuang2
John, your commentary exceeded even the fine Times article. A bump for you.
40 posted on 11/10/2001 8:15:35 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Cultural Jihad
Thank you so much for posting these, they're breathtaking! A people who are capable of producing such incredible beauty have no business living in poverty!
41 posted on 11/10/2001 8:22:13 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999

And here's a rough babel.altavista.com translation of the Italian paragraph as seen on the above postcard's website (click the postcard above to link to the website):

The beautifulst mosque that it has never seen. Gold and turchese on a structure to square plant around which the city of Mazar-i-sharif rises. Roads that dipartono from the mosque ripetendone the simmetria. A total market divided for roads and fields, where merchants who do not know the concept of the competition, sell the same manufatti goodses and created with one archaic technology. Outside the sabbioso desert, flat, made red-hot from the sun, of which the wind you ne it remembers costantememte the existence. E' the tomba of Alì, the brother-in-law of Maometto, the prophet of the Sciti.

42 posted on 11/10/2001 8:29:23 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: quimby
Lets all say the word.....airpower. Airpower does not shift sands in a day or two or three. But airpower eventually forces the opposition to reconsider its options. This is true in Iraq, Bosnia, and Yugoslavia. Given a open campaign and time, airpower makes the situation tilt our way. We don't have to waste the lives of our grunts nor do we have to destroy an entire country. We are careful about our targets and attempt to destroy what has to be leveled. For all of the armchair folks, get the facts straight. When we come around to your neighborhood during an air campaign, we will visit each and everyday. You will eventually move from your neighborhood. Thats a fact!
43 posted on 11/10/2001 8:34:05 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Cultural Jihad
I can't help but wonder how many of their cities are still intact. It looks like Mazar-i-Sharif has escaped a lot of the war damage. Wonder what the rest of the country looks like?
44 posted on 11/10/2001 8:48:46 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Billie
I just saw it while playing in google. I am glad you like it. It is not as good as what I am wearing this second . Your Lady Liberty. I LOVE it so much .FallGuy is wearing the Thank God I Voted for Bush. We were in Billie t-shirts today all day.
45 posted on 11/10/2001 8:49:36 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Billie; JohnHuang2
Billie, thanks so much for calling this to my attention. Don't you love the way JH2 writes! (Good to see you!)

JH2, your essays are always excellent, but you've outdone yourself this time. This is exquisite! ^5 ;o)

46 posted on 11/10/2001 9:11:14 PM PST by dixiechick2000
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To: Texas2step; Billie; JohnHuang2
> Thanks for the flag Billie! I've been trying to get JH to post his editorials in their own right on their own posts, but I can't get the humble fellow to do it! <

He just makes me so mad! I've been after him to do this for a LONG time. I finally gave up. Maybe you two can talk some sense into his head!

If it hadn't been for Billie pinging me, I'd never have seen it. Maybe we need a Bump_for_JH2 list? Not the best, but better than nothing. He and a couple of other good FReeper essayists need their own category IMO.

Okay, rant over. LOL

47 posted on 11/10/2001 10:58:35 PM PST by JudyB1938
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To: ppaul; randita; looscannon; Irma; LBGA; Billie; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Many, many thanks to all of you for the very, very kind words and warm encouragement. Glad you enjoyed it. Love ya all.
48 posted on 11/11/2001 3:50:12 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Texas2step; Cincinatus' Wife; Victoria Delsoul; Phil V.; Sabertooth; ladyinred; Republic
Many, many thanks to all of you for the very, very kind words and warm encouragement. Glad you enjoyed it. Love ya all.
49 posted on 11/11/2001 3:50:43 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: quimby; Snow Bunny; Buckeroo; JulieRNR21; tarpon_bill; McGavin999; Scott from the Left Coast
Many, many thanks to all of you for the very, very kind words and warm encouragement. Glad you enjoyed it. Love ya all.
50 posted on 11/11/2001 3:51:21 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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