Arduous ballot review winds up today (YAWN !!)

St. Petersburg Times ^ | November 11, 2001 | Eric Deggans

[Zoey]

Late last week, the St. Petersburg Times received more than 3,000 protest e-mails in a coordinated campaign by people suggesting the media was sitting on the results of the review.

300 democraps with 10 different emails or Al Gore with 3,000.

[ChemistCat]

(AP) November 2, 2047 Al Gore, onetime Presidential runner-up, held a press conference on the snaggy grounds of the CyberGenarian Retirement Village upon receipt of the results of the one millionth recounting of the Florida ballots. (Due to wrinkle obscenity laws, we can only show you an old 2-D file photo of Mr. Gore.)



Mr. Gore thanked the mediabots for attending his press conference. "Thank you for coming today to celebrate my gain of two more votes on the latest recount. Together, we are going forward into the second half of the twenty-first century knowing that I coulda won. I shoulda won. And God Willing, I'll live long enough to actually win the 2000 election."

This particulim recount, carried out by dembots under the strictest bipartisanbot scrutiny, was made particularlumly difficult by the fact that previous handlers of the primitik punched-paper ballots, almost all flesh-and-blood nonbots, left skin oils and dead body cell flakes upon the ballots which over time have encouraged the growth of wiffle, spold, and Muzak all over the ballots. "At times, the ballots are rendered completely unreadable by the appearance of many new, spurious holes. The most curink technology was brought to bear on the problem," said a member of the bipartisanbot commission.

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[Republic of Texas]

Didn't read the article, 'cause I just don't care.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

That's the spirit !

When we lived in Minneapolis, I got so sick of the Mpls Star Trib I cancelled our subscription. Never felt better !

[Brandonmark]

I just don't care

And I suspect this will be the reaction of at least 87% of the public....if not more!

[Fearless Flyers]

The only thing this story will prove is that liberals still believe that minorities and the elderly are stupid to vote. I don't care what results they claim this is the only fact that will come out.
That they spent a year evaluating spoiled ballots (nonvotes) also proves how serious they are in degrading minorities and the elderly.

[Congressman Billybob]

Phil,

The base story, who won Florida, is deader'n a doornail. On the other hand, the story about the story may be of great interest to our "Red Zone" audience if, for instance, the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, use the same data about these 171.000 "examined ballots" and reach opposite concusions about the result.

I know enough about election analysis that as soon as I can read one of the detailed articles on this, I can dope out what the assumptions are that the editors / reporters in that article used to reach their conclusions. I can then "reverse engineer" the article to reach the core data, and give an honest appraisal of what happened.

For example, the Consortium looked at "overvotes." These are ballots on which the voter made two or more choices for President. Both the ballots themselves AND the instructions posted on the walls, clearly said that for President, voters should "Vote for one." Never in the history of the United States has a ballot cast for two different candidates (in a one-person race) been counted as a single vote for either of those candidates.

Not only should every adult American understand that this is not a valid vote, every third grade student in the nation understands the point. You sit there at your little desk, with a handful of well-sharpened Eberhard-Faber # 2 pencils, and blacken little ovals on a computer-readable sheet. Every teacher in every classroom where the standardized tests are given, tells the students, "If you change your answer, be sure to erase your first mark completely."

Why is this done? To make it clear to nine-year-olds that there is only one answer per question permitted, and that two answers to a question is ALWAYS scored as a wrong answer. Bottom line -- if any of the Consortium members publish or broadcast "Gore won" articles using any "overvotes," they are saying that in counting ballots, voters who are dumber than nine-year-olds should "have their ballots counted, too." And that, my friend, is a steaming pile of "horse hockey," in Col. Potter's memorable phrase.

I am anticipating what the Times is going to publish, with my last comment. But if they print what I expect, the conclusion will be that their editors and reporters are blue bottle flies, swarming over that pile of "horse hockey" for reasons known only to themselves.

Congressman Billybob

[Brandonmark]

"The Herald tried to answer the relatively simple question of who won. I think we're going much deeper than that."

It seems to me that the liberal media loves to shovel their nonsense deeper and deeper.

[Brandonmark]

Well said!

[Allegra]

When will they get over it? They botched it from the beginning with mainstream media collusion. (Read Bill Sammons' "At Any Cost.") It's so simple. Gore and his minions (including the impeached x-42 and assorted DNC vermin) tried to steal the election. They failed. End of story.

[Howlin]

The survey will include undervotes (ballots where machines did not record a vote for president) and overvotes (ballots where votes for more than one candidate were recorded).

In other words, it will include ILLEGAL VOTES, according to the Florida laws on the books at the time of the election.

And this means nothing -- unless EVERY state is recounted.

[Howlin]

I still believe if the votes show Gore won, we would have heard it by now.......it would just be "too good" for ones of these jerks not to leak.

[Howlin]

Release the results of the NORC Florida Ballot Study NOW! It is our right as American citizens to know the results of the 2000 Presidential Election. I urge you to present the results honestly, and without distortion. If Al Gore won the election, then please say so clearly. Please use the results of the study to pressure our legislators and the Bush administration to reform the electoral process, so that such a debacle can never happen again. We can only call ourselves a democracy if the votes of all Americans are counted accurately, and those elected are the ones who take office.

Yikes; if it goes against Bush, do the expect Gore to move in?

[PhiKapMom]

IMO the military ballots are the ONLY ballots that should be counted since they were tossed out illegally by the local election boards!

[PhiKapMom]

Those military ballots were still not counted in all counties and the tally of votes in the counties that did finally count them, were not added into the final vote totals.

When anyone emails or calls the press about this vote recount or members of Congress or anyone else, the very first thing that needs to be mentioned is that this over/undervote did not include the military absentee ballots in FL! That will not go over well on Veterans Day. Also need to hit the talk show circuits and remind them on Veterans Day the press is not interested in military absentee ballots but they are intersting in trying to undermine the President in time of War!

[stands2reason]

I'd just like to say, Congressman, that I always enjoy your cogent, timely prose. It's too good to be cyber. It should be in ink, on parchment.:-)

[dalebert]

I am sure this will be an unbiased report. Sure it will.Ha! The right man won no matter what sorelosermen say. Just remember it was the Bush team that insisted on things going by the letter of the law and the Gore team fighting to go against the law. Attacking the presidents legitimacy at a time like this is just dumb and destructive. And who do we have to thank? The Dem press.

[Major Matt Mason]

Another problem: Palm Beach Shores' Aaron M. Cohen, who said he worked as a coder for about two weeks analyzing ballots for NORC, wrote commentaries on the ballot recount for the Web site Democrats.com. A former trainer for the U.S. Census in Palm Beach County, he said his decision to speak out now shouldn't cast doubts on his coding work.

Why on earth would they use ANYONE from FL, let alone Palm Beach County, as one of these coders? The fact that Mr. Cohen felt the need to blab to various DEMOCRAT web sites only puts his inclusion further into question.

It's fairly clear to me that the results of this study should not be taken seriously, as they will almost certainly be tainted with liberal bias. I think these news organizations should have saved the $ they spent on this re-count fiasco, and instead put that $ into hiring unbiased editors and reporters.

BTW, when will the media do a comprehensive recount of IL and TX ballots from the 1960 election? Since they seem to think it is their sworn duty to delve deeper into finding the true winner of a close election, you would think they would have a little curiosity regarding the winner of the '60 election. Oh yeah, I forgot, it was a DemocRat that won that election, so there was no need for the media to look into that one.

[Brandonmark]

FR thread on Drudge Report:
ONE YEAR LATER, MEDIA STILL COUNTING FLORIDA VOTES