Posted on 11/11/2001 5:04:50 PM PST by American_Patriot_For_Democracy
A lot has "gone down" in the Subcontinent over the centuries, and a good deal of it is remembered.
This fellow wants us to get excited about the plight of slaves from India being transported to the Middle East over the Hindu Kush in the 1300s. Frankly, I get much more excited about the Anglo-Saxon barbarians invading Brittany and slaughtering many of the relatives of my ancestors back in the 1300s! Why don't the Hindus get excited about that? It was certainly more relevant to history. Could it be that their experience under the iron heel of those very same Anglo-Saxons in later centuries has given them pause to wave around that particular set of dirty linen - after all, "they" might come back, and then what would Indian politicians do?
The only way these people are going to be able to move into the future is to adopt a more enlightened attitude toward their neighbors - and toward each other for that matter. There are still 100s of millions of people in India identified as harijan, or "outcaste". That problem is much closer to home, and more relevant, than the 1300s in the Himalayas. Time for these people to start taking care of their own problems first.
Go here
http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/oct/01franc.htm
and here
http://www.rediff.com/news/franc.htm
Then write me back and I will be happy to talk to you. Until then, leave me alone.
That Hindus were killed five hundred years ago? I'm sorry, but the world was coarser then. Besides, Tamerlane was hardly a Muslim, so don't blame this one on Pakistan. I happen to have a very high opinion of Jinnah myself.
America is not the only nation to suffer from terrorism. Countries like India lose thousands of lives to Islamic fundamentalism each year, without the Western world taking any notice.
George Bush has more or less ignored India, a vibrant, democratic, pro-Western nation. Why?
How do you eliminate terrorism with terrorism? Because Pakistan is at the root of terrorism. The Taleban came out of Pakistani madarasas and were able to take nearly the whole of Afghanistan with the help of Pakistani officers. Pakistan has made jihad a national enterprise, not only hitting India, but also training militants who struck in the US, Bosnia and Chechnya. By lifting the economic sanctions on both India and Pakistan, the US has also -- once again -- put on the same footing two nations which, whatever their respective merits (all is not evil in Pakistan), cannot be compared.
India, a giant of a nation, is a bastion of freedom in an Asia torn by fundamentalism and the shadow of Chinese hegemony. Pakistan, a small country, always on the verge of bankruptcy, has been for most of its independence under military dictatorships. This equating Pakistan and India is an old perverse English strategy which had the purpose of dividing Muslims and Hindus so that the British could rule. It is sad to say that 200 years later this policy is still alive in the minds of Western leaders.
The third error is to think that by killing Osama bin Laden and bombing Afghanistan, he is going to solve -- partly or fully -- the problem of Islamic fundamentalism. Bush has also invited Muslim leaders to the White House, telling them that his fight is 'not against Islam, but against terrorism.' The first thing Bush should understand is that the problem is not with Muslims, who are like all other human beings in the world -- some of are very good, some are okay and some are bad -- but with Islam, a religion which teaches that there is only one God and that jihad is justified to convert others to the true religion.
The US might ultimately succeed in killing bin Ladin, but will not other bin Ladens surface elsewhere in the world?
Finally, there is one factor which is being completely overlooked. What is China going to do?
At the times of the attacks, Beijing was on the verge of strengthening its ties with the Taleban. Since then, it has closed its borders with Afghanistan for fear that some of the terrorists might spill into Xinjiang and worsen the already simmering Islamic problem there.
But China is a cold calculator and it will do only what serves its interests regardless of the moral consequences. We have seen how it armed Pakistan to counter India and gave Islamabad the technology to build nuclear weapons -- and even the capability to deliver them, thanks to North Korean M-11 missiles. Will China ultimately side -- even if temporarily -- with the Muslim world, when it starts uniting against American imperialism? Only then will the possibility of a third World War really emerge.
Hate to tell you this, but those folks were no more Anglo-Saxon than the Pope, and he's Polish! They were Norman, more French that English, and many of them didn't even speak the same language as the people they ruled. They spoke French at home and took French wives, and considered their property in France to be much more important than their property in England. It was certainly more valuable.
No doubt there are many places where Moslems feel besieged by the outside world which they believe to be Christian or Christian dominated. They feel jealousy, anger, etc. Did you know they feel the same about the people in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Shanghai and Singapore?
Shortly they will feel the same about Red China!
Many Moslems do not need Christians or Jews as targets for hate.
Now, what would you propose we do to change their minds? Maybe send in Christian missionaries? - well, Christian missionaries backed by the armed might of NATO possibly.
Give me some choices here!
The fact remains, life in India remains heavily dominated by the caste system. I would hardly call that "doing the best it can, everyday, to emulate and work with the United States", would you?
But, we have news on now - something about a hijacking attempt thwarted at Dulles airport - much more current than Hindus being killed over 700 years ago!
The Pakistani version of the same story is that all Hindus worship rats and will turn them loose in your neighborhood if you let a Hindu family live in it.
I have found that story to not be true - but some of them do have an affection for Black Mamba snakes that I find to be a bit disquieting. Then, too, most Hindus are bothered by that just as much as I am.
I don't get it. What does India need from G-dub? Doesn't a nation of 1 billion have an army and other resources with which to redress their differences with Pakistan? If that's how they feel, India should have "gotten it on" with Pakistan long before the USA got involved over there for separate, more complex reasons.
Besides that, what's with being an American and yet having one's main and only foreign policy hardon over India, of all places?
Please do not degrade these coveted board on Free Republic with that kind of idiocy. The Free Republic is one of the few places that people with minds can talk, debate, and think. Your base and vile statement that "Hindus worship rats" is totally deceitful and an evil statement, and it is typical of the ISI propaganda war machine that is ruining Pakistan, India, and the rest of the world.
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