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Washington Post headline: Study shows recount would have elected Bush
Washington Post ^ | 11/11/01

Posted on 11/11/2001 6:51:01 PM PST by dawn53

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Looks like the Post is following CNN and using a sane headline.


(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: floridarecount

1 posted on 11/11/2001 6:51:01 PM PST by dawn53
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To: dawn53
Wonder what this does to Jeffrey Toobins stupid Gore really won book?
2 posted on 11/11/2001 6:55:26 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: dawn53

Complete Article

3 posted on 11/11/2001 6:56:24 PM PST by deport
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To: dawn53
Abstain voting is legal in the U. S. Senate -- why was it not legal in Florida in 2000?
4 posted on 11/11/2001 7:01:16 PM PST by Graewoulf
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To: deport
Even here, the Washington ComPost is grudgingly unwilling to face the facts. The recount wasn't "short-circuited," it was illegal from the beginning, as Katherine Harris understood and as the Supreme Court agreed.

But luckily most people will just read the headline, which tells the real story.

5 posted on 11/11/2001 7:06:27 PM PST by Cicero
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To: deport
The study showed that if the two limited recounts had not been short-circuited – the first by Florida county and state election officials and the second by the U.S. Supreme Court – Bush would have held his lead over Gore ...

Recounts are limited by State & Federal election laws which require a certification of results at a date certain. GW was certified.

Any challenge to the result ccertified in Florida would have been determined by the US House.

Upshot? GW was elected by every legitimate consideration. THANK G*D!!

6 posted on 11/11/2001 7:06:32 PM PST by dodger
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To: dawn53
What is up with Drudge? He's the only one with a "Gore Won" headline.
7 posted on 11/11/2001 7:09:23 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Howlin
FYI...... another admiting Gore wasn't gonna win without a lot of help....
8 posted on 11/11/2001 7:10:12 PM PST by deport
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To: ladyinred
Wonder what this does to Jeffrey Toobins stupid Gore really won book?

....not to mention Dershowitz's stupid book and Buscaglia's stupid book. Them dummy libs sure do put out a lot of stupid books, don't they?

9 posted on 11/11/2001 7:10:17 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: dawn53
The local Tampa Bay CBS affiliate just showed tomorrow's St. Petersburg Times front page. Bold Headline- RECOUNT: BUSH
10 posted on 11/11/2001 7:10:37 PM PST by shortstop
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To: dawn53
Of course, Drudge's scoop that is still up on his website saying Gore edged Bush wrong. Ha ha ha ha.

I now take Drudge's scoops with even more salt than I used to. Sheesh!

11 posted on 11/11/2001 7:11:13 PM PST by valhallasone
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To: dawn53
WONDERFUL
12 posted on 11/11/2001 7:12:39 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: valhallasone
Drudge went with the AP Headline he says right now on his radio show ! The rest made up their own !
13 posted on 11/11/2001 7:13:15 PM PST by america-rules
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To: dawn53
This is the headline and part of the article from tommorows NY Times:

November 12, 2001 Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote By FORD FESSENDEN and JOHN M. BRODER A comprehensive review of the uncounted Florida ballots from last year's presidential election reveals that George W. Bush would have won even if the United States Supreme Court had allowed the statewide manual recount of the votes that the Florida Supreme Court had ordered to go forward. Contrary to what many partisans of former Vice President Al Gore have charged, the United States Supreme Court did not award an election to Mr. Bush that otherwise would have been won by Mr. Gore. A close examination of the ballots found that Mr. Bush would have retained a slender margin over Mr. Gore if the Florida court's order to recount more than 43,000 ballots had not been reversed by the United States Supreme Court. (end of excerpt)

Hee hee, so even the NY Times is saying Bush won, and have even taken on the issue of the Supreme Court "awarding" the election to Bush. The DemonRATS must be going bonkers!!!

14 posted on 11/11/2001 7:15:21 PM PST by Clintons a commie
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To: deport
Suitable for framing!
15 posted on 11/11/2001 7:22:09 PM PST by Howlin
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To: dawn53
I think we should all lay low on this non-story. It seems as though Drudge is looking for some controversy. The stories I've heard and read seem to indicate it's still a Bush win. AP and the Palm Beach paper seem to be the only media outlets indicating 'maybe' or 'possibly' that Gore won. If WE talk about it, this will become a big story.

This is NOT A BIG STORY. The election is a year old. Gore campaigned for several candidates last week and they lost. The ones that won didn't want him around. There are many important things happenineg: this is not one of them.

16 posted on 11/11/2001 7:22:55 PM PST by SmartBlonde
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To: ladyinred
Wonder what this does to Jeffrey Toobins stupid Gore really won book?

The same thing that's going to happen to Bill and Hillary's. Remainder bin.

17 posted on 11/11/2001 7:25:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: SmartBlonde
Gore campaigned for several candidates last week and they lost.

All the ones Clinton worked for lost, too.

Times, they is a changing.

18 posted on 11/11/2001 7:26:07 PM PST by Howlin
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To: ladyinred
Wonder what this does to Jeffrey Toobins stupid Gore really won book?

And Alan Dershowitz and Vincent Bugliosi and a dozen more ...

19 posted on 11/11/2001 7:27:44 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: dawn53
I can live with the Post's headline if it is as you described in the title of this thread. It almost sounds as though some sanity has somehow seaped into some corners of liberaldom (gasp!).
20 posted on 11/11/2001 7:28:08 PM PST by Southack
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To: SmartBlonde
. There are many important things happening: this is not one of them.

I agree. All the arguments I've read (democRats and Republican) are the same as a year ago. No one's viewpoint has changed, one iota. Time to move on. I only thank God that Katherine Harris upheld the rule of law and that the Supreme Court did as well.

21 posted on 11/11/2001 7:32:33 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: dawn53

22 posted on 11/11/2001 7:35:30 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: ChadGore
The Post and Times apparently assume that a limited recount would have been fair. That is a rather large assumption.
23 posted on 11/11/2001 7:42:05 PM PST by SpencerRoane
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To: dawn53
A www.capitolgrilling poster counters the Washington Compost with this from the NY Times:

"With the presidency hanging on the outcome in Florida, the Bush team quickly grasped that the best hope of ensuring victory was the trove of ballots still arriving in the mail from Florida residents living abroad. Over the next 18 days, the Republicans mounted a legal and public relations campaign to persuade canvassing boards in Bush strongholds to waive the state's election laws when counting overseas absentee ballots.

Their goal was simple: to count the maximum number of overseas ballots in counties won by Mr. Bush, particularly those with a high concentration of military voters, while seeking to disqualify overseas ballots in counties won by Vice President Al Gore.

A six-month investigation by The New York Times of this chapter in the closest presidential election in American history shows that the Republican effort had a decided impact. Under intense pressure from the Republicans, Florida officials accepted hundreds of overseas absentee ballots that failed to comply with state election laws."

A real push-me;pull-you media battle to cofuse and confound the sheeple... In all fairness, aside from the above issue of the overseas and absentee ballots, if Palm Beach voters had been given a fair shake, President-elect Gore would be in the White House right now, it would seem.

Oh well, the din of battle will drown out this news (see Drudge's banner headline) after a few news cycles, I expect. I can live with p-Resident Bush, I guess...

24 posted on 11/11/2001 7:56:40 PM PST by slym
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To: slym
Slym,

Look at your source and what they DON'T say. The Republicans were merely trying to require the local election boards to accept the overseas ballots of MILITARY voters that SHOULD have been accepted according to the overriding FEDERAL election codes! This effort was only started after a coterie of DemocRAT attorneys following THEIR PLAN to persuade those same county officials to discard the military ballots. There was no effort to set aside State election law as to other overseas ballots.

Remember also that Clinton/Gore, for the first time in US History ordered that voting stations could not be located on US bases... and delayed delivery of ballots to overseas posts and ships at sea!

25 posted on 11/11/2001 9:32:44 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: deport
This story is such B.S. Gore picked the most heavily democrat counties to do recounts in. Despite that, this article seeks to claim the rest of the state would have helped Gore, not the most heavily democrat. Give me a break.
26 posted on 11/11/2001 11:50:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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