Skip to comments.Catholic Campaign for Human Development?
Posted on 11/12/2001 6:56:17 AM PST by Aunt Polgara
Please forgive this vanity. My parish is again asking for donations to the Campaign for Human Development.
Does anyone know if they ever cleaned up their act, or are they still helping to support pro-abortion groups?
Also, it seems like it would be a good idea to flag this to the Catholic list whichever way it comes out. The CHD has had so much bad publicity, I wonder why our parishes are still asking us to donate to it. Perhaps they have cleaned up their act, she said hopefully...(sigh)
Can't wait for her reply. Probably thought she'd get one fish (Mackerel Snapper?) to bite on this troll-bait.
I'm not sure whether the Catholic Campaign for Human Development is one of those groups, but Austin Ruse at the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute might know. You can e-mail him at firstname.lastname@example.org
I'm sure you mean well, but this is not the action of a troller looking to start a fight. There really is some serious question of where the funds from this collection go. A Catholic who does not realize the extent of infiltration into our own bureaucracies is a Catholic living in ignorance.
Basically, the CHD funnels money to local groups who are supposed to help disadvantaged people help themselves.
The problem is that many of these local groups are far left-wing extremists who, for instance, support NOW, the ACLU, etc. It is my understanding that the CHD money is to be used only for specified purposes, but that will free up the local groups' money to be used for activities that are antithetical to Catholic teachings.
For example, the article cited above talks about a group called ACORN, which my archdiocese (Los Angeles) has given money to. According to the article, ACORN helped fund the "March to Fight the Right" a couple of years ago. If you remember that march, a big part of it was pro-abortion advocacy.
My question is an honest one. I support my church, but I will not support programs in my church that can funnel money to groups that support anti-Catholic activities.
FWIW, I think it's important for the Catholics here on FR to be sure that the money we donate to Catholic sponsored charities actually goes to genuine Catholic charities.
I'm sorry if you were suspicious and didn't take the time to check out my Catholic pro-life bona-fides. It's actually easy to check out someone, with the "find in forum" feature of FR. Although I don't post often, it should have been clear to you that I am pro-life if you had taken the time to check me out.
Most of us appreciate it if you try to deal respectfully with other posters until and unless they prove themselves to be no more than hit n run liberal disrupters. I know I certainly appreciate it when the tone on threads remains civil.
My position is that once a "Catholic" agency gets involved in pro-abortion activity, it deserves to be destroyed. There should be no forgiveness for agencies, only individuals.
The Campaign for Human Development has always been political. It has never been about aiding the poor, except insofar as the socialists running it convinced themselves that Sovietizing America would "help the poor."
There, there. Have you looked into a self-esteem program?
Take a look at the thread linked in post 7, for example. Personally, I agree with Romulus, except that I wouldn't double my weekly donation to the parish priest who asked me to donate to the CHD. I would attach something like the article linked in #7 (not the FR thread, but the original article) and tell them both my donation for the CHD and the weekly plate were going to priests for life (or an equivalent).
[ed: This message gives us the opportunity to discuss who controls funding for community organizing and how to change that.] From: GLDP <email@example.com> >>For immediate release Contact: Kate Pilacky at 1-877-ORG-OHIO Organize!Ohio Suffers Major Setback as Catholic Campaign Rescinds Grant Conservative causes were handed a victory as Rev. Robert J.Vitillo, Executive Director of the Catholic Campaign for Human Development moved to rescind a grant in the amount of $30,000 from the Catholic Campaignfor Human Development (CCHD) to Organize!Ohio, a statewide network of community organizations. Citing pressure initiated on the archconservative http://www.freerepublic.com website, the Campaign for Human Development reacted to allegations that Organize!Ohio was involved in the activities of the National Abortion Rights Action League(NARAL). The CCHD inquisition was based on speculation that Organize!Ohio or a project of Organize!Ohio was involved in activities which are contrary to the moral teachings of the Catholic Church". In a July 31, 2001 letter to Organize!Ohio, Fr. Vitillo concedes Organize!Ohio is not directly involved in facilitating or promoting abortion. The letter further states, Organize!Ohio does not have a position on abortion, did not assist NARAL in promoting its own mission, and did not offer any particular services,training, or technical assistance to NARAL. On two occasions (1999 and 2000), Organize!Ohio received membership dues checks, amounting to donations, totaling $125.00 from NARAL. NARAL is not currently a memberof Organize!Ohio. Organize!Ohio brings together organizers around the state to share strategies and experiences in helping to empower poor people and their organizations and has selected the issues of Amnesty for Immigrants; the Mount Olive Pickle Boycott in support of Farmworker Organizing; Restoration of Welfare Rights; Affordable Housing; and Universal Access to Health Care as our campaigns. While it is clear that the activities of Organize!Ohio are within the traditions and teachings of the Catholic Church, the funding agreement was unilaterally suspended on the premise that "the MoralGuidelines for CCHD Funding indicate that even when the matter of direct cooperation with morally objectionable activity does not apply, CCHD must avoid funding any projects which have the potential to cause scandal". (Fr.Vitilloletter of July 31,2001.) However, the Moral Guidelines referenced by Fr.Vitillo do not set forth the circumstances under which potential for scandal might arise but rather incorporates by footnote the Ethical and Religious Directives for Catholic Health Care Services. The Directive, in paragraph 71 states: " "The possibility of scandal must be considered when applying the principles governing cooperation. Cooperation, which in all other respects is morally licit, may need to be refused because of the scandal that might be caused. Scandal can sometimes be avoided by an appropriate explanation of what is in fact being done."(emphasis added) Rather than suspend funding to an organization that advances a social justice agenda consistent with the principles and values of the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, an appropriate explanation, provided by Organize!Ohio could have been accepted by the CCHD rather than giving a victory to the opponents of organizing and social justice whose views are represented on the <A HREF="http://www.freerepublic.com/" website. Free Republic describes itself as an online gathering place or independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web working to roll back decades of governmental largesse and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. Organize!Ohio will assess its future without CCHD fundingsupport at the Annual Gathering of Community Organizers scheduled for the weekend of September 15th in Lancaster, Ohio. Donations to offset this funding loss may be sent to Organize! Ohio, 1875 North Ridge Rd, Suite A, Lorain, Ohio 44055. For details, call 1-877-ORG-OHIO or >>email:firstname.lastname@example.org. ------- End of forwarded message -------
Speaking from experience, it is becoming more and more difficult to find a charity that deserves support. We need look no further than the Red Cross or United Way.
The results of your post will be beneficial to all of us.
O-oh! You are getting awfully close to becoming a Traditional Catholic!
before posting these related articles:
A comprehensive cache of "faith-based" money links can be found here: You Gotta Have Faith
Have there been any threads investigating what aid has already gone to the victims' families? I've yet to find a dollar per family amount from either major organization. Smaller groups appear to be more on the ball. The Knights of Columbus, for instance, state that they have already distributed $3,000 to over 300 families. A "Givers and Keepers" listing would inform everybody an idea of which organizations can scrupulously handle large amounts of money.
you're too hard on yourself(lol)
seriously, I am a lifer Catholic too but I find myself questioning everything that the hierarchy collects for....sort of like questioning the Unitied Way...
I find that I am giving more and more directly to groups that have immediate and close contact with the actual poor and down-trodden...I feel that I am the best person to determine who needs my money..
The condescending CEO, who IMHO O'Reilly allowed to dodge questions, stated that they want to be sure that the money is being given to the right people and that is the reason for the delay.
Kind of reminiscent of the "more rather than less, sooner rather than later" crap we heard from our most recently impeached president of the United States.
Sorry you thought I was insulting, Auntie. Perusing thru the replies I see where y'all are coming from and what you meant in your opening vanity post. Maybe I just shot from the hip and put the Church and Pro-abortion in the wrong concept. But I think I'm getting the message. Appears that monies from the Church to the CHD are distributed, thus freeing other capital to fund programs not necessarily supported by any American Diocese (can't speak for the French).
So, I apologize if my remarks offended you. And thanks to everyone for futhering my education
I'm a big enough man to take the lumps I deserve.
Kudos to Diago who made it all happen! Well done!
Apology accepted. We can all learn from each other here. :^)
I don't think I would tell them that my money is going to Priests for Life, considering that PFL seems like it might be coming under fire -- no point in giving CHD a reason to pile on PFL. I sure hope that Fr. Pavone's removal doesn't portend bad things for PFL. :-(
Does anyone have any information about how those funds are dispersed? I did know about the controversy of the CHD, but haven't heard anything concerning the Catholic Servies Appeal.
I don't know anything about the "Catholic Services Appeal." We don't have anything with that name here in the Los Angeles archdiocese. Whereabouts are you from?
thanks for the info.