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The Strange Death of Ron Miller('97 OK anthrax death of Congressional witness)
Oklahoma Constitution ^ | Fall 2001 | Oklahma Constitution staff

Posted on 11/13/2001 8:19:14 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat

The Strange Death of Ron Miller

Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) were in contact with the M.E.'s office during his autopsy.

by Constitution Staff

In the middle of October of 1997, Norman businessman Ron Miller was scheduled to testify before a congressional committee. According to several sources, Miller was prepared to implicate President Clinton's Chief of Staff Thomas F. McLarty III in Oklahoma-related scandals. First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was exposed to, at a minimum, severe embarrassment if Miller testified. (For more on this story, see the Spring 2001 issue of the Oklahoma Constitution, or consult our web site at www.oklahomaconstitution.com and read "Oklahoma Natural Gas Overcharges Tied to Clinton White House.") Miller's sudden death on October 12, 1997, prevented his testimony against McLarty.

For several months, Miller was subjected to numerous threats over the phone, in person, and in other bizarre ways. He was specifically told to "back off." The 58-year-old Miller became ill Thursday, October 2. His condition worsened until he entered Norman Regional Hospital on October 4, suffering from "flu-like" symptoms. On October 8, alarmed at his rapidly deteriorating condition, business associate Larry Evans, a board member at Integris Baptist Hospital transferred Miller to Baptist Hospital in Oklahoma City at the family's request.

After his death, Baptist referred his case to the Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office. Despite extensive tests, the M.E.'s office declared Miller's death a "medical mystery." Some suggested Ricin poisoning as a possible cause, but the M.E.'s office specifically tested for that and found no Ricin antibodies. A hospital test for Legionnaire's Disease was also negative.

Others have proposed inhalational, or airborne Anthrax as the biological agent that killed Miller. Using medical records from Norman Regional Hospital, Integris Baptist Hospital and the autopsy report from the Medical Examiner's office, combined with material on inhalational anthrax obtained from the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta and other sources, the Oklahoma Constitution will examine this thesis.

Anthrax is a rare disease caused by spore-forming bacterium bacillus anthracis. Transmission through injured skin is more common than by inhalation. Inhalational anthrax symptoms follow deposition of spore-bearing particles into alveolar spaces of the human body. It is thought to occur most commonly from the inhalation of dust where animal hides or hairs are handled. The infection is expected to occur from one to six days after inhaling Bacillus anthracis spores, although some have suggested that an incubation time of up to forty days is possible.

Miller became ill Thursday, October 2, 1997, experiencing what he thought was a bad cold. His condition worsened into what he believed was the flu. He was experiencing high fever, persistent cough, memory loss, lethargy and chills. This is consistent with the early signs of airborne anthrax, but an accurate diagnosis at this stage, would require in the words of the literature, "a high degree of suspicion."

Norman medical personnel detected a right upper lobe pneumonia, and began him treating initially with timentin, a penicillin derivative. Doctors soon discontinued timentin in favor of more powerful antibiotics, azactam and kefzol. Neither of these antibiotics will cure a person of an anthrax infection. The drug of choice is penicillin in large doses (at least 1.2 million units daily, with erythromycin and doxycycline also considered efficacious by some authorities, to a lesser degree, if given early enough. Treatment with Penicillin G should continue for at least a week. Some experts believe inhaled anthrax can be fatal, despite antibiotic treatment even prior to symptoms.Cecil's Textbook of Medicine states that, "(T)he progressive course may be so rapid that anitmicrobial drugs may not save the patient's life."

Early in his hospital stay, Miller suffered from severe diarrhea, but doctors managed to bring that under control, and Miller even experienced general improvement over Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday.

By two o'clock Monday, October 6, Miller reported to the nurses that he "feels so much better," and appeared on his way to recovery. On Tuesday, Miller's temperature was normal, and his release from the hospital the next day likely. Then, on Wednesday, October 8, Miller's condition worsened dramatically, his temperature spiking to 105. The medical literature reports that, in many cases of inhalational anthrax, the patient often experiences a period of recovery, followed by rapid relapse, with increased difficulty in breathing, profuse sweating, cyanosis, shock and death in two to three days.

Norman Hospital then sent Miller to Integris Baptist, considered by many the finest hospital in Oklahoma. His condition worsened at Baptist. Doctors switched his antibiotics to rocephin and fortaz. Soon, fortaz was discontinued in favor of erythromycin. When a rash developed around the neck, upper chest, feet and ankles on October 10 (Friday) doctors added doxycycline to the regimen. There is some suggestion that Baptist doctors might have begun to consider something like anthrax by October 10, a Friday. Nurses reported that an unidentified "business partner" called and reported some travel in the last three to four months to Nebraska, Iowa, and California. The next comment was, "No specific exposure or activity that would suggest animal related illness." Then the records noted that a "coworker," also unidentified, "came by and reported Mr. Miller was in Iowa and Nebraska three to four months ago looking at horse ranches." Anthrax is usually associated with animal contact, with workers in animal hides occasional anthrax victims.

Then, Saturday, October 11, a "Doctor Frost" called a nurse. This mysterious "Doctor Frost" suggested that Miller was poisoned. No Doctor Frost is listed in the metropolitan Oklahoma City area and neither the hospital nor the family had ever heard of Doctor Frost. One consulting Norman doctor expressed some irritation that Miller had "great reticence in talking much about his personal life and one can only go ahead and deduce from the little hints about what is going on."

This cryptic comment suggests that Miller never told doctors at either Norman or Baptist that he feared deliberate infection with some deadly bacteria or other agent. He did, however, tell a business associate a few days before his sudden illness that after he testified before Congress, "Al Gore will never become president."

Specific symptoms suffered by Ron Miller (noted at either Norman or Baptist) that are consistent with inhalational anthrax include the following: acute tubular necrosis, fever, chills, hypotension, enlarged mediastinal lympodonopathy, diasphoresis, shock, non-productive cough, severe breathing problems, and confusion. The initial right upper lobe infection is also indicative of an inhaled infection, such as airborne anthrax.

Medical literature consulted by the Oklahoma Constitution noted that sputum culture and gram stain are unlikely to be diagnostic. After five days, Miller's sputum grew only normal upper respiratory flora. Norman medical personnel noted Moderate gram cocci in clusters and moderate gram cocci in chains (suggesting the possibility of a staph-related infection), but the gram stain at Baptist reported no organisms. Viral cultures at Baptist were also negative. If proper antibiotic therapy is used to combat inhalational anthrax, "death occurs even if sterility of the bloodstream is achieved with antibiotics."

When referred from Baptist to the Oklahoma Chief Medical Examiner's office, Miller's death was classified as a death with "possible threat to public health." and "under suspicious circumstances." Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) were in contact with the M.E.'s office during his autopsy. The initial M.E. report was "pending investigation." This was eventually changed to "natural," as opposed to the other possibilities of homicide, suicide, or unknown. Chief M.E. Fred Jordan reclassified the manner of death as "unknown," when challenged by Michigan investigator Stephen Dresch. Ray Blakeney of the M.E.'s office spoke to the Oklahoma Constitution on July 6, 2001 and again on July 19. Blakeney was very insistent that Miller did not die of any form of anthrax, assuring us that "toxicology testing" was done for inhaled anthrax. He added that part of the problem was that Miller "lived for several days." Blakeney reiterated that it was not anthrax, "unless it had taken a course that did not allow us to detect that."

Blakeney said that there are a few deaths each year that the technology is not advanced enough for a cause of death to be determined. "This happened to be one of those, and unfortunately in this case, happened to be some political thing . . . that everybody assumed that he was murdered." As we prepared to go to press, Blakeney promised that he would check to ensure that Miller's tissue specimens are on an "indefinite hold" with the medical examiner's office.

In the initial report of the medical examiner's office, Dr. John T. Cooper, who performed the autopsy, said, "(E)xtensive microbiological studies were negative; this does not rule out the involvement of an infectious agent." Dr. Cooper is now in private business in California. When contacted on July 11, 2001, he told us, "I don't know the cause." In regard to inhalational anthrax, Dr. Cooper said, "It's possible, but again I just don't remember the details of this case." He said that he did not recall why they ruled out inhaled anthrax, but admitted it was "possible," even if no anthrax is found in the tissues. His opinion is that Miller's death was "natural," but whatever killed Miller was "an unknown, an undetermined." The Pathological Diagnosis by the M.E.'s office cited a "clinical history of acute febrile illness with temperature greater than 104 degrees, leukocytosis and progressive eosinophilia (white blood cell count greater than 20,000 with pronounced left shift and eosinophils as high as 9%); diffuse alveolar damage of lungs with eosinophilia and clinical history of reactive airway disease; acute tubulointerstitial nephropathy, (a) clinical renal failure with creatinine as high as 5.1 and BUN/Creatinine ratios approximately 10, (b) renal tubal degeneration with marked cytoplasmic vacuolation, (c) focal interstitial inflammatory infiltrate with prominent eosinophilia; hepatic necrosis, centrilobular, with sparing of the immediate periportal parenchyma and moderate portal tract inflammation and superficial gastric candidiasis." The examiner summarized that "(T)he ultimate cause of death is believed to be either a rare infectious disease or a rare form of hypersensitivity to a biological agent. Unfortunately, the current state of medical knowledge does not permit us to solve this medical mystery."

The office of the District Attorney in Cleveland County considers Miller's death an open investigation. While the above consistencies of Miller's illness and inhalational anthrax are striking, we urge readers with other theories to contact the Oklahoma Constitution, or investigator Stephen Dresch at sdresch@forensic-intelligence.org.

We hope to report more findings in our next issue


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Anthrax Death in Oklahoma?

by Constitution Staff

"It was recently brought to our attention that we may not have seen all the files," Cleveland County District Attorney Tim Kuykendall said, in explaining his office's request for a grand jury subpoena. The subpoena asks for the complete case file from the Chief Medical Examiner for the unexplained death of Norman businessman Ron Miller. In our last issue we explored the possibility that Miller was a victim of inhaled anthrax.

The Oklahoma Constitution filed an open records request for the complete case file for Miller, but we were refused on the grounds that it contained private information protected by statute. We suggested to District Attorney Kuykendall that he may also not have the complete case file. When Kuykendall asked the medical examiner's office for the complete case file, they were told that they did have everything. Expressing concern that Cleveland County could have an unsolved murder, Kuykendall filed the subpoena request with the state attorney general's office to obtain all autopsy reports completed on the late Ron Miller.

The death of a Florida journalist from pulmonary (also called inhaled or airborne) anthrax has focused some renewed interest in the unexplained death of Oklahoma businessman Ron Miller in October 1997. Miller was expected to accuse former Clinton Chief of Staff Thomas F. "Mack" McLarty in the Oklahoma Corporation Commission scandal of the early nineties that sent three individuals to prison.

Nolanda Butler Hill, a former business partner of the late U.S. Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, testified before the Oklahoma Corporation Commission on January 31, 2001. Hill's testimony confirmed the deep involvement of the Clinton White House with the contract between Oklahoma Natural Gas (ONG) and Dynamic Energy Resources of Tulsa. Hill told the Commission that Secretary Brown met with First Lady Hillary Clinton at the White House shortly after Bill Clinton took office in 1993. According to Hill, Mrs. Clinton expressed "appreciation" for Brown's "efforts toward resolution of Mack McLarty's problem in Oklahoma." McLarty's "problem in Oklahoma" concerned "a small gas company, GAGE, with which McLarty had some association."

Brown's role was to iron out a "glitch in the timing" of the sale of GAGE because of a "need for bridge financing to keep the deal from falling apart." Brown told Hill that it was a deal in which McLarty was "involved."

Why was McLarty so concerned about the sale of a relatively small gas supplier in Oklahoma? Why did the first lady take McLarty's "problem" in the matter so seriously? Is Ron Miller, a principal owner of GAGE, dead today because of the need to eliminate him as a threat to the Clinton White House?

It is a complicated story that begins many years ago. Oklahoma Natural Gas, claimed that Creek Systems, a GAGE subsidiary, was "fraudulently" overcharging the company's customers, and sought to end a long-term gas purchase contract with GAGE. Ron Miller took the case to the Oklahoma Corporation Commission, which regulates the natural gas business in Oklahoma. To his dismay, the Commission sided with ONG. This threatened to financially bankrupt Miller and his corporate partner, James H. Kitchens, also of Norman.

On October 2, 1992, Commissioner Bob Anthony made headlines with his public announcement that he had been assisting the FBI (specifically Special Agent John Hippard) in uncovering corruption at the Commission. Anthony cited the GAGE situation as a prime example of a case that was tainted by corruption. Utility lobbyist William Anderson was later convicted of bribing Commissioner Bob Hopkins in a case involving Southwestern Bell Telephone. Anderson was a lobbyist not only for Southwestern Bell, but also for ONG and Arkansas Louisiana Gas (ARKLA). Commissioner Anthony received covert payments from ARKLA senior executives at the same time that ARKLA had multimillion dollar rate cases before the commission. At the time, Thomas McLarty, a childhood friend of Bill Clinton, was the Chief Executive Officer of ARKLA. Another childhood friend of Clinton's and McLarty's, Vince Foster, handled ARKLA business at the Rose Law firm while a partner with Hillary Clinton. As Anthony explained, "Even if Mack McLarty did not personally participate in or did not personally know of the illegal conduct of his senior officers, it certainly would have been a skeleton in his closet."

Miller struck back by suing Anderson and "those who directed the conduct of Mr. Anderson." He planned to show a pattern of corruption at the Commission, including evidence of illegal activities of utility companies other than ONG. McLarty was clearly exposed to, at a minimum, severe embarrassment.

Miller's associate, Jim Kitchens, had some business associates in California, that suddenly entered the picture. Nora and Gene Lum were Democratic Party fund-raisers with close ties to Commerce Secretary Ron Brown. With Brown's help, they created Dynamic Energy Resources. The Lums had no prior experience in the oil and gas business and virtually no assets. They sought out Tulsa oil man Stuart Price. Price had strong connections to the Democratic Party establishment through his wife, who is a niece of former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell. The Lums gave Michael Brown, son of Ron Brown, a five percent share in the company and a seat on the board. Another board member, Helen Yee, had a daughter (Melinda Yee) who was a personal assistant to Ron Brown. The Lum's daughter, Trisha, worked for Ron Brown at the Commerce Department.

ONG negotiated a deal to pay above market prices to Dynamic Energy Resources in a contract that would make Dynamic one of ONG's major suppliers of gas. Dynamic would get their gas to sell to ONG from GAGE, once the purchase was made. ONG defended what some saw as a very sweet deal for Dynamic this way: "In the company's view, the new gas purchase contract with Dynamic and a separate global settlement of all the outstanding legal issues (in which no money was paid to any of the parties), was in the best interest of its ratepayers."

John Tisdale represented Dynamic in the negotiations. Tisdale was a law partner with Clinton confidant Bruce Lindsay, and handled legal matters for Bill Clinton in Arkansas. During negotiations, Tisdale received faxes and phone calls from the White House. As Nolanda Hill told the Corporation Commission, the deal was in danger of falling apart without "bridge financing." On the afternoon of November 9, 1993, one day before the Miller lawsuit was set for trial before the Oklahoma Supreme Court, a wire transfer of four and a half million dollars was credited to Dynamic Energy Resources at a Walton-owned bank in Tulsa. Hillary Clinton had served on the board of directors of Wal-Mart and was good friends with Alice Walton (daughter of the late Sam Walton). Alice Walton owned Llama Capital Corporation in Arkansas, which is believed to have provided the loan.

In approximately contemporaneous events on November 9, 1993, Dynamic Energy Resources formally acquired the assets of GAGE Corporation and its subsidiary (Creek Systems) and dropped the GAGE lawsuit against William Anderson. When visited at an Oklahoma City nursing home by the Oklahoma Constitution, Anderson refused to talk about his activities that sent him to prison, but he did express high regard for Mack McLarty as a "very capable man."

The Lums were deeply involved in illegal fund-raising for the Democratic Party before and after the formation of Dynamic. In September of 1997, the Lums were convicted and spent a short time in prison. Some charge that the Clinton Justice Department settled their case early to prevent more damaging revelations. Hillary Clinton's former Rose Law firm partner, Webster Hubbell, was charged by congressional investigators of shutting down further investigations in his role as the number three man at the Justice Department.

Nora Lum is recorded as having visited the White House at least 18 times during Clinton's first term. The Lums were associates of John Huang, who also pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations. The Lums and Huang were also associated with Indonesian businessman James Riady, a member of the family that runs the global conglomerate, the Lippo Group. The Riady family were financial supporters of Clinton's gubernatorial and presidential campaigns.

According to Michael McAdams, a GAGE vice president, who was hired on as a consultant for Dynamic, Ron Brown and the White House were deeply involved in the Dynamic deal. "It was confirmed verbally from the first time I met the Lums by the Lums, and Stuart Price, that Nora worked directly for Ron Brown." McAdams recalls phone calls from the White House, from personalities like Clinton aide George Stephanopolous.

As the criminal investigations into Brown's activities moved closer, Brown signaled an interest in making a deal with prosecutors. Brown died in a plane crash while on a trade mission in the Balkans on April 3, 1996. The Air Force jet which carried Brown went down with 33 others. It was the number two plane in the presidential fleet, having flown Hillary Clinton and her daughter Chelsea one week earlier on an overseas trip. Brown's sudden death aborted an independent counsel's investigation into Brown's role in the Dynamic Energy deal.

After the sale of GAGE, Ron Miller aided news reporters and government authorities in the investigation of the Lums. Miller made 165 tape recordings of his conversations with the Lums and their associates. Miller worked closely with FBI agent John Hippard, who had also worked with Anthony, during this time. Stuart Price reportedly heard Gene Lum telling another unidentified person that if another unidentified someone is giving too much trouble, "just have him killed." When we contacted Price to elaborate on this incident and related issues, he informed us that he was getting ready to eat dinner (it was nine-thirty at night) and that he would call us back. He never did.

Miller turned over the tapes to Hippard of the FBI in early August of 1997, and was interviewed by congressional committee staff a few days later. The committee subpoenaed documents from Miller concerning Brown, the Lums, and Dynamic.

On September 5, 1997, the congressional committee deposed McLarty. He was asked about ARKLA lobbyist Bill Anderson, but McLarty's lawyers diverted questioning. The congressional committee was scheduled to begin its formal proceedings on October 8, with Ron Miller slated to testify.

Miller received a large sum up-front at the time of the GAGE-Dynamic sale in 1993, with installments scheduled over the next few years. After a couple of years, payments in the deal brokered by a Lums associate Don Sweatman, ceased. Despite Miller's pleading and demanding, no more money was forthcoming, driving Miller toward bankruptcy. One time Miller was told by Sweatman not to worry, because, "Hillary said you'll get your money."

After Miller refused what his lawyer considered an inadequate settlement in January 1997, Sweatman told Miller, "You haven't been shot at yet." According to a police report filed by Miller following this event, "the subjects he is dealing with have made number of references to certain people wanting Mr. Miller dead."

Miller received several death threats after he vowed to pursue those who directed the activities of Bill Anderson. One business partner told us that Miller was once "almost run off the road."

Another time, Miller was followed after meeting with FBI agent John Hippard in Oklahoma City, all the way back to Norman.(This was independently confirmed by Miller friend Mike McCarville, a radio talk show host for KTOK Radio in Oklahoma City). He received threatening phone calls, such as one telling him to "Back off M----- F-----." The next morning, the person called back and said, "Don't forget what I said."

Prowlers were reported at Miller's house, with attempts to tamper with his cars (Miller did not have a garage). The most bizarre effort at intimidation came from a helicopter hovering outside his office off of State Highway #9 in Norman. Miller told a TV reporter that he was told by friends in the intelligence community that the helicopter was leased to the government for use in the 1996 Atlanta Olympics. Miller told one reporter that the helicopter was so close to his window, that he could have "reached out and touched it." Miller went to retrieve a handgun and when he returned the helicopter flew away. Several individuals, including the manager at the hotel across the street, saw the helicopter hovering outside Miller's office window. When we contacted former FBI agent Hippard at the law office where he now works, he deferred comment on this incident. A private investigator hired by Miller was the victim of a similar incident with a helicopter at his home a few weeks later. (For more detail on these incidents, read "Oklahoma Natural Gas Overcharges Tied to Clinton White House," in our spring 2001 issue.)

Preparing to testify before Congress in a few days, Miller told a business associate that his testimony would insure that Al Gore would never become president. According to Miller's calendar, Hippard installed a "sound system" in Miller's office on Wednesday, October 1, 1997. The next day, Miller was scheduled to meet again with Don Sweatman in the afternoon of Thursday, October 2, 1997. The Oklahoma Constitution was unable to contact Sweatman for his recollection of the last days of Ron Miller. Earlier in the day, Miller became increasingly ill with what he believed to be the flu and apparently canceled the meeting.

Miller did not go to work the next day (Friday) and his condition worsened on Saturday to the point that he was taken to the emergency room at Norman Regional Hospital. Doctors diagnosed pneumonia and he was admitted to the hospital. Miller was treated with antibiotic drugs and his condition improved over Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. By Tuesday, he was off the respirator and his temperature was normal.

Early Wednesday morning, Miller was in respiratory distress, with a temperature spiking to 105. Miller was transferred to Baptist Hospital, where doctors worked to determine the cause of his pneumonia. His condition only worsened and he died on Sunday, October 12. (For more on this specific aspect of the story, see our summer 2001 issue and the story, "The Strange Death of Ron Miller.") The case was referred to the Oklahoma Chief Medical Examiner (CME). After five months (investigations typically take six weeks to complete) the CME finally called Miller's death a result of "acute respiratory distress syndrome," or a type of pneumonia of undetermined etiology (cause). While the CME could not determine the cause of death, they chose to list his death as of "natural causes."

That determination was challenged by an investigator, Dr. Stephen Dresch of Michigan, who was working a case involving the Ron Brown plane crash. After reading Dresch's reasoning, Dr. Fred Jordan, Oklahoma's long-time chief medical examiner, changed the cause of death to "undetermined."

After consulting several medical experts and sources, we asked the CME office about the possibility of inhaled anthrax. Ray Blakeney, the chief spokesman for the office, discounted that possibility, "unless it had taken a course that did not allow us to detect that." When we filed an open records request to obtain the entire case file, so we could review specific lab work rather than summaries we were provided, Blakeney denied our request, citing statutory privacy concerns. The summaries of the report mention that the office tested for Ricin poisoning, but no mention was made of a test for anthrax. Hospital records indicate that testing was done for lung cancer, tuberculosis and legionnaire's pneumonia. All were negative. The summary does not mention any tests conducted for anthrax. One physician who reviewed the medical records and the summary from the CME told us, "It is my opinion that they most likely did no test for inhaled anthrax."

While Miller was treated with antibiotics of various sorts at both Norman and Baptist hospitals, Cecil's Textbook of Medicine states that, "(T)he progressive course may be so rapid that antimicrobial drugs may not save the patient's life." This is because the bacteria can be eradicated, but the anthrax toxin continues unopposed until the patient's death.

Some important signs of pulmonary anthrax include a widened mediastinum and acute tubular necrosis, both of which Miller had. Other symptoms common to inhaled anthrax suffered by Miller include fever, chills, hypotension, diasphoresis, shock, non-productive cough, severe breathing problems, and confusion. Bacillus anthracis is a large, gram-positive bacteria. Medical records indicate that Miller's lab test confirmed gram-positive bacteria.

Shortly before we went to press, Jerry Bohnen of KTOK Radio in Oklahoma City, who had done several stories about the Miller-Gage-Dyamic Energy affair in the mid-nineties, interviewed a former Arkansas state trooper, Russell Welch, who survived inhaled anthrax. The trooper was investigating the MENA drug ring in Arkansas in 1991 when he became ill. The first doctor that he sought help from could not determine the cause of his illness. A second physician was an Army Reserve doctor who served in the Gulf War, and had received special training in detecting airborne anthrax. He was able to begin treatment early and, after fourteen days in the hospital, survived. Welch told Bohnen that he believes he was infected "through the mail."

The District Attorney in Cleveland County, Tim Kuykendall, opened an investigation following the change in Miller's case from a natural death to undetermined. When his office asked the FBI for material from their investigation, they assured the DA's office that no investigation was necessary because they had done an "exhaustive investigation." Officials with the Norman Police Department were told that "the feds had investigated," and found nothing, according to a Norman police officer who asked to remain anonymous. We submitted a freedom of information request to the FBI in August of this year, asking for all material involved in their investigation into the death of Ron Miller. The FBI responded in a letter dated September 18th. According to the letter, signed by Carl Benoit, the chief division counsel, Miller's death was never of "investigatory interest to the FBI." We later talked with Benoit, who encouraged us to submit our request again.

Before resubmitting the request, we contacted John Hippard, the FBI agent (now retired) who worked closely with Miller for five years. Hippard said that, in his dealings with Miller, Miller had never given him any reason to doubt his word, or trustworthiness. We asked Hippard for guidance in how to word a resubmission, and referenced Benoit. Hippard said at first that he was not familiar with Benoit, but then later said, "Oh yeah, he is the legal advisor. He came on after I left." A few weeks earlier, Hippard and Benoit were in a meeting together at Oklahoma City FBI headquarters discussing the Miller tapes with Edward Clarke of the Walker and Walker law firm. (The tapes are at issue in a related possible civil litigation.) When we asked whether the bureau ever did an investigation into Miller's death, Hippard said that he would have to defer to whatever Benoit told us in the letter.

We plan to resubmit our freedom of information request and report the bureau's response in our next issue.

Hippard is now working as an investigator for Patrick Ryan, who is now an Oklahoma City attorney. Ryan formerly served as U.S. Attorney in the mid-nineties, appointed by President Clinton. Ironically, Ryan served as a defense attorney for a utility executive who took the fifth amendment during the Corporation Commission scandal, while Hippard was a top agent in the investigation of corruption at the Commission. Hippard later was a key FBI figure in the investigation of the Murrah bombing at the time Ryan was U.S. Attorney and Ryan was apparently impressed with Hippard's abilities. Associates of the late Ron Miller have all told us that Miller "trusted Hippard implicitly." Commissioner Bob Anthony, who worked with Hippard during the Corporation Commission scandal, has also expressed a high regard for Hippard. We would like Hippard to talk to us about several aspects of the Miller affair but he said he could not comment legally on certain aspects of the case.

Hippard assured us that he felt no pressure from the Clinton Administration to not pursue any criminal activity in the case.

We have read hundreds of pages of material and interviewed scores of individuals in preparation for these articles. Several individuals have spoken to us only on condition of anonymity. Others have flatly refused to discuss the matter with us at all. More than one person specifically expressed concern about Mack McLarty and others closely connected to the Clintons. One person, when told what we were calling about, exclaimed, "Oh my God!"

Several individuals have aided us in these reports, persons with diverse areas of expertise. As we prepared to go to press, we are planning to resubmit our freedom of information request to the FBI and we are pursuing leads that we hope to report in our next issue. One person with the CME's office in Oklahoma City has said that they may refer the case to the Center for Disease Control (CDC). Blood and tissue samples retained by the CME's office may also be referred to an independent pathologist for a second opinion. We ask any of our readers who may have information to help us uncover the final truth on the death of Ron Miller, to E-mail us at okconsti@aol.com or investigator Dr. Stephen Dresch at sdresch@forensic-intelligence.org.

1 posted on 11/13/2001 8:19:14 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Bump for my Oklahoman/Texan wife - Babyfreep. She loves this Hillary Clinton conspiracy stuff.

I just want to know when the truth about the Clinton dealings will finally be broadcast and the justice dished out. Never? Probably so.

2 posted on 11/13/2001 8:29:12 AM PST by scan59
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To: Diddle E. Squat
As Ron Brown said," I won't go down alone!" And he didn't...
3 posted on 11/13/2001 9:34:02 AM PST by donozark
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To: donozark; rdavis84
WW just WON'T go away will it?
4 posted on 11/13/2001 9:35:00 AM PST by donozark
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To: donozark; Wallaby; Boyd; thinden; LSJohn; phelanw
"WW just WON'T go away will it?"

No. And neither will NDCORUP. ;-)

5 posted on 11/13/2001 10:01:44 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84; BlueDogDemo; OKCSubmariner; logos; RightOnline; OwenKellogg; Nita Nupress; Fred Mertz...
Finally! More of those fine little webs catching major light beams.

Russell Welch, please call the D.A. in Cleveland County and Dr. Dresch. Oh wait a minute. Bare Bottoms said he was positive Russell Welch never had anthrax. Never mind.

7 posted on 11/13/2001 10:21:02 AM PST by Sal
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You mena this article? ---- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/555472/posts

"The most bizarre effort at intimidation came from a helicopter hovering outside his office off of State Highway #9 in Norman."

That was probably N91L. The N# didn't exist on a helicopter when it was here. Now it's on a floatplane/amphib in Alaska.

8 posted on 11/13/2001 10:28:25 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: Diddle E. Squat
BUMP
9 posted on 11/13/2001 10:34:21 AM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: backhoe
Don't miss this little coincidence!
10 posted on 11/13/2001 10:35:10 AM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: Diddle E. Squat; thinden
Thanks for the post/update.

We need to keep in mind that the Repository of our Chem/Bio weapons, including Anthrax, is at Pine Bluff. Handy for this type use.

11 posted on 11/13/2001 11:17:21 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: LiberteeBell; *Anthrax_Scare_List; *clintonscandals
A twofer Index!
12 posted on 11/13/2001 11:54:46 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Looks like the tangled web woven by The SCUMBAG and The Hildebeaste is slowly being unwoven. Can't happen too fast.
13 posted on 11/13/2001 12:23:52 PM PST by upchuck
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To: Diddle E. Squat; rdavis84; BlueDogDemo; OKCSubmariner; roughrider; golitely; honway; Wallaby
I think these okies at the Constitution are on to something. the following exerpt is post in memory of NDCORUP(RIP):

"Hippard is now working as an investigator for Patrick Ryan, who is now an Oklahoma City attorney. Ryan formerly served as U.S. Attorney in the mid-nineties, appointed by President Clinton. Ironically, Ryan served as a defense attorney for a utility executive who took the fifth amendment during the Corporation Commission scandal, while Hippard was a top agent in the investigation of corruption at the Commission. Hippard later was a key FBI figure in the investigation of the Murrah bombing at the time Ryan was U.S. Attorney and Ryan was apparently impressed with Hippard's abilities. Associates of the late Ron Miller have all told us that Miller "trusted Hippard implicitly." Commissioner Bob Anthony, who worked with Hippard during the Corporation Commission scandal, has also expressed a high regard for Hippard. We would like Hippard to talk to us about several aspects of the Miller affair but he said he could not comment legally on certain aspects of the case."

Hippard assured us that he felt no pressure from the Clinton Administration to not pursue any criminal activity in the case.

14 posted on 11/13/2001 12:50:12 PM PST by thinden
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To: OkieGrit2; thinden
"Mega bumps to the guys at the OK CONSTITUTION. That piece took some heavy duty investigative work and cojones the size of bowling balls."

Hear Hear!!! I second that!

But they're liable to be gettin' no-talk phone calls of the "suspicious" kind.

16 posted on 11/13/2001 1:06:02 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
But they're liable to be gettin' no-talk phone calls of the "suspicious" kind.

And I wouldn't want to carry their life insurance policy.

Hokie Smokes, Bullwinkle. 'Scuse me while I go wash my hands.

17 posted on 11/13/2001 1:20:14 PM PST by LTCJ
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To: OkieGrit2; rdavis84; BlueDogDemo; honway; Fred Mertz; independentmind; OKCSubmariner
the Constitution's original investigative piece re: miller, lum, brown, mac, ONG, arkla was heady work.

getting the cleveland county prosecutor to re open miller's death is a major development. (remember, oklahoma is one of the more conservative states according to the make up of their congressional delegation).

18 posted on 11/13/2001 3:15:43 PM PST by thinden
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To: Sal
Sorta puts a whole new twist on either the source of anthrax in this country, or the depth of Clinton's perfidy, or both, eh?
19 posted on 11/13/2001 3:17:05 PM PST by logos
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To: Alamo-Girl
Bump!!
20 posted on 11/13/2001 3:21:34 PM PST by coloradan
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To: rubbertramp; rdavis84
"Another childhood friend of Clinton's and McLarty's, Vince Foster, handled ARKLA business at the Rose Law firm while a partner with Hillary Clinton."

I'll promis you VWF was privvy to many things in his personal & professional capacity, any of which could have caused his demise.

I guess you could call it "death by association".

21 posted on 11/13/2001 3:22:41 PM PST by thinden
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To: rdavis84; Sal
But they're liable to be gettin' no-talk phone calls of the "suspicious" kind.

Yep. Most likely.

Thanks for the ping, Sal. I'll come back to read this more thoroughly later tonight.

22 posted on 11/13/2001 3:28:57 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
I think I hold the record on the "no-talks" (unofficially, of course), 44 in one night. I didn't even know my machine could Count that high.

Didn't bother us though, I'd moved the machine out to my shop and unplugged the inside phones. Had 36 the night before :-)

23 posted on 11/13/2001 3:56:20 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: *Arkansas Mafia; NDCORUP
a threefer is in order
24 posted on 11/13/2001 3:56:20 PM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: OwenKellogg
"a threefer is in order"

Naww. My wife made me stop that. Gettin' too old anyways :-)

25 posted on 11/13/2001 3:58:00 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: coloradan
Thanks for the heads up!
27 posted on 11/13/2001 6:45:47 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Diddle E. Squat

bump

28 posted on 11/13/2001 7:00:06 PM PST by Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
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To: OkieGrit2
"That was before I became --- gasp ---- an attorney. Please don't tell Mom. She still thinks I'm holding coats in a bawdy house."

It's never too late to resume your earlier Career. Honor is very important in a person's life and I'm sure you would never misplace anyones coat. Besides that you'll be exposed to a MUCH higher quality of human beings at "the house" vs. "the Courthouse".

I plead with you, go beg Madame Felicia for your old job back!!!!! Quickly. Or you're liable to get drawn into that Fatal Quicksand ---- "Politics".

29 posted on 11/13/2001 7:11:57 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: scan59
"Died in manner so strange that his doctors ordered special postmortem tests

Ron had gone from perfect health to death in just one week!

"truth about the Clinton dealings will finally be broadcast and the justice dished out. Never? Probably so."
who is this "ashcroft" guy? how long will his "investigation" take?
why are there so many klinton "holdovers" in the gov, n in the media, especially FOX news?

30 posted on 11/13/2001 7:18:07 PM PST by hoot2
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To: thinden; OkieGrit2; BlueDogDemo; honway; Fred Mertz; independentmind; OKCSubmariner
We had a lot of good info on this way back, and a lot of good suspicions ----- 3 - 6- 2000 Article

"The Ron Miller death has a couple of indicators in it that might point to the Welch treatment. Still no definitive cause of death?"

36 Posted on 03/09/2000 05:08:37 PST by NDCORUP

31 posted on 11/13/2001 7:25:48 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Super post. . .and kudos to the 'Constitution' staff.

Copy, save and send to friends. . .

Stay safe ANYone associated with this story and Oklahoma Constitution staff certainly. . .but at least a 'whole lot O' folks' will be watching this one. . .

32 posted on 11/13/2001 8:07:45 PM PST by cricket
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Just to clarify, this was first posted earlier this morning by Oklahoma 1, Anthrax death in Oklahma?, he should get all the credit for the find. I simply reposted to the Front Page sidebar because his original post quickly slipped off the page, and I deemed the story to important to allow to slip away that quickly. Alas, this post was soon pulled from the Front Page, who knows why. Would think an anthrax case that implicates Clinton associates would be timely and conservative, but what do I know, I'm just a lowly poster.
33 posted on 11/13/2001 8:14:45 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: OkieGrit2; rdavis84; Oklahoma 1
Mega bumps to the guys at the OK CONSTITUTION. That piece took some heavy duty investigative work and cojones the size of bowling balls.

I third that. These guys do good work.

34 posted on 11/13/2001 9:55:58 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: OkieGrit2
Please don't tell Mom. She still thinks I'm holding coats in a bawdy house.

LOL

When the phone rang at a poker game I used to frequent I'd tell the boys "If it's my wife, I ain't here . . . . . . she thinks I'm out chasin' pu$$y."

35 posted on 11/13/2001 10:00:35 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: rdavis84
You must be the only person in the world who bookmarked any NDCORUP(RIP) posts. Was he your "rabbi"?
36 posted on 11/13/2001 10:03:41 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Just to clarify, this was first posted earlier this morning by Oklahoma 1, Anthrax death in Oklahma?, he should get all the credit for the find.

Thanks for the repost. This is outstanding stuff and should be seen by eveyone.

BTW, Oklahoma1, I believe, is on the staff at the OK Constitution (along with some other obviously bright and dedicated real investigative reporters.)

37 posted on 11/13/2001 10:07:01 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: roughrider; golitely; BlueDogDemo; Okiereddust; Askel5
fyi
38 posted on 11/13/2001 10:09:45 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: LSJohn
ND bump.
39 posted on 11/13/2001 10:10:36 PM PST by Askel5
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To: independentmind; amom; betty boop; Black Jade; zog; AtticusX
fyi
40 posted on 11/13/2001 10:10:49 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: ouroboros; Medium Rare; fod; rwz; carenot; ml/nj; Timesink; Tymesup
fyi
41 posted on 11/13/2001 10:13:17 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: DoughtyOne; Jeff Head; Squantos; harpseal; Travis McGee
fyi
42 posted on 11/13/2001 10:15:08 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: scan59
I just want to know when the truth about the Clinton dealings will finally be broadcast and the justice dished out. Never? Probably so.

Sep. 11 was the day Ashcroft was supposed to release the incriminating evidence on Klinton. I can't understand why our 'conservative' leaders are demanding to protect him.

43 posted on 11/13/2001 10:19:35 PM PST by ashrad
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To: Spirit Of Truth; Sabertooth
bttt
44 posted on 11/13/2001 10:28:29 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Fascinating article
45 posted on 11/13/2001 10:36:00 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: LSJohn
"You must be the only person in the world who bookmarked any NDCORUP(RIP) posts. Was he your "rabbi"?"

You mean like for my Bar Mitzfa, or my Bris Milah?

Memories, memories ;-)

Too bad the Hogs got him.

46 posted on 11/16/2001 1:04:42 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: LSJohn
--it is always interesting to see what "government" sees as important to persue, and what is important to ignore, and the timing and players. This is a pretty good story, certainly as valuable as anything else happening, because of the ramifications. The thorough infiltration of government by connected 'badguys" should be enough to outrage every american, but unfortunately, there is this black and white split, either you are 'for' the government, or you get labeled "against' the government. That is obviously a false premise, but it's chanted as 'fact" by some, a large number of 'somes"

Well, it's pretty hard to be on the "for" side then, when occurences of this nature are evident. It's hard when it's evident that it goes on, through successive administrations and congressional re-shufflings. And when major players apparently involved always seem to get promoted and put into positions of trust and authority. And when the so called and alleged opposition appears to have zero interest in doing anything about it.

47 posted on 11/16/2001 1:05:53 PM PST by zog
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To: rdavis84; thinden; LSJohn
Thanks for the pings. A very interesting article, indeed.
48 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:53 PM PST by independentmind
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To: LSJohn
I used to search for NDCORUP posts, too.

I wonder if James Inhofe, Senator from Oklahoma, will be interested in this story. Hope he remembers his flying incident and who may have been involved.

49 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:54 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Super post!
50 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:04 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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