What is "Palaeo"conservatism?

My own questions | november 13, 2001 | Me

[TopQuark]

Congratulations All!

For creating and perpetuating the most mature discussion/debate I have yet seen on FR.

If only more of the posts concerning Israel, Political Philosophy labels/definitions, Personalities, etc. could be so polite and erudite.

Bump! My feelings exactly. Sorry I can't contribute, but many thanks to the participants; I learned quite a bit.

[gcruse]

Well, If that's the best explanation you can come up with,
I am content to let your obscurity reign.

[TopQuark]

Micheal Medved ( who is Jewish) said it's pretentious to say Jews do not have control of the media apparatus in America.

I doubt very much he has said that. But, more to the point, could you define "control," please?
It is clear that, since the World War II, Jews and those of Jewish decent have visible presence in our culture. Is mere presence in something also control of that entity? If not, what is?

[Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi]

bump.

Good question. Generally speaking, there are several varieties and the term is a comparative one. "Palaeo-conservatives," while embracing modern constitutionalism, are critical of the Enlightenment as well as of levelling and socialistic corruptions of mass, secular liberal democracy. The idea is that political problems and civil society are rooted in cultural traditions and codes which transcend any re-shaping by centralist statism. Most palaeos are Burkean conservatives and Christians. Some seek aristocratic and traditional Christian understandings of culture in priority to the expansion of the modern state, secularist ideologies, and social engineering. British conservatives ("Tories"), some U.S. conservatives, Catholics, Anglicans, and a wide variety of conservatives in Europe fall within the palaeo orbit. You can find these trends among some contemporary U.S. conservatives. One of the central ideas is that many of the most important aspects of Westen society should not be subjected to ideological and statist manipulation. These include the family, private property, religion, education, fine arts, and culture in general.

[JMJ333]

Micheal Medved ( who is Jewish) said it's pretentious to say Jews do not have control of the media apparatus in America.

Cite please.

BTW, UPI and AP are Saudi owned. Perhaps you too need a beanie?

[Valin]

What the hell does the above mean?

nonsectatian prayer, the golden rule? The sort of public religon we get from senate chaplins etc. Just a guess on my part.

[JMJ333]

So the Saudis owning UPI and AP is really a trick by the mossad? Maybe its actually a Jewish woman who owns them both, and we can chalk it up to it all being a mossad honey trap.

[Valin]

It is clear that, since the World War II, Jews and those of Jewish decent have visible presence in our culture.

For more I would recomend Thomas Sowells Race and Culture.

[Valin]

All I was doing was trying to answer his question. I'm sitting trying to understand your hostile reply to my reply.
As to your question why the "religious right" is feared moral absolutes would be my guess. That and some Christians act more than a little loony.

[JMJ333]

We all know the press is Liberal, but to say that its a mass Jewish conspiracy is to show your ignorance on a major scale.

To give a slight hint of what the pro-Islamic media doesn't mention...

The 1.5 south Sudanese, mostly Christian, that were genocidally starved or tortured to death by the Arab Moslem government of Northern Sudan in Khartoum. Another half million are expected to die in the next year because of this continuing purge by the fanatic moslem government presided over by the fanatic Iranian-backed Moslem government of Omar Bashir and the leader of the National Islamic front, Hassan Turabi. No, the media is too busy recounting votes in Florida and trying their best to insinuate that Gore won.

No, Mr. Conspiracy theorist--its Saudi Arabia that bankrolls its interest groups such as the Becthel Corporation, but also the media in the Christian west--Europe and America. Former Italian President Berlusconi [in July of 1995] sold a 20% stake in his television and advertising empire to an internation consortium comprised of Saudi Prince Waleed bin Talal and South African businessman Johann Rupert.

The Saudis also own inumerable newspapers, radio and tv networks throughout Europe and worldwide. UPI is owned by Islamic petrodollars, as is AP. Saudi money pays for much of the advertising on CNN, and causes a tilting toward those who are paying.

That is why instead of reorting on the clear indicators that were pointing toward an attack by Islamic fanatics on our soil, they were giving us Gary Condit all the time. You want to be lulled into thinking its the Jews? Go ahead. I think its foolish, especially in light of their silence of the media bias in the Balkans, their silence in the Sudan, the silence of what's happening in Greece [who incidentally feel surrounded by islamic militants] and countless other examples.

I could go on if you wish...