Posted on 11/13/2001 12:10:56 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator
Neither UPI nor AP are Saudi owned. See below.
From the AP FAQ:
1. Who owns The Associated Press?
The Associated Press is a not-for-profit cooperative, which means it is owned by its 1,550 U.S. daily newspaper members. They elect a board of directors that directs the cooperative.
See my post #161. Neither UPI nor AP is owned by Saudis.
Neo-cons are basically recycled Trotskyites. That's their cultural background. See Springtime for Trotsky by Daniel McCarthy.
1. The Media attack hounds will take the opportunity to demonize you even more. If your fight was local, they will take it to the attention of the entire world.
2. You will lose. The PCs control the courts too. You will lose regardless of the merits of your case (and Irving's was pretty shaky).
3. People like Sabramerican and gcruse will take the fact that you lost as proof that they were right to besmirch your reputation in the first place.
Even if they were owned by the Saudis, this would not in any sense imply that they have a pro-Saudi bias. Anymore than these facts imply that UPI has a pro-Moonie bias.
The rest of JMJ333's delirium is equally hallucinatory. Lemmee see if I can follow it. The government of the Sudanese has murdered hundreds of thousands of Christians and animists. JMJ thinks that this is underreported by the press. Perhaps it is, although I have certainly seen plenty of coverage. Even so, what on earth does this have to do with Jews? Is the connection that the Sudan, like Israel, is a theocracy?
Jews could be attacked with impunity. In writings, verbally and physically.
Those days are gone. Now we fight back.
In every arena, using the methods appropriate to the situation.
And guess what? On a level playing field- or, you can ask the Arabs, even when the odds against us- we win, or at least severally bloody the opponent.
The bullies who thought that it would always be free Jew hunting season are shocked.
And now they cry.
I just wanted to set the record straight. AP was never owned by Saudis. UPI is not owned by Saudis.
However, I wouldn't be very surprised if some owners of news companies do influence the editorial line and the way the news is slanted. Owners can, after all, hire and fire employees and make their preferences known.
This the part where they want you to explain the difference between control and influence. The old semantics game. What is sex?
This is not semantics at all. If you want to stay away from Socratic method, here is the answer. There are numerous cases when A and B are present, A seems to cause B, yet it does not. These are known collectively as threats to validity; an exposition is readily available in most research-methods texts.
When faced with B = "I see Jewish names a lot" and A = "Jewish control of... (fill in your favorite social institution here)," you have concluded that A causes B.
The fallaciousness of this conclusion is readily seen from an example: most people who have gotten into an automobile accident (B) have eaten tomatoes at least once during a month prior to the accident (A). Clearly, you would not conclude that A causes B. And it is also clear why: joint presence of A and B is insufficient to assertain causality.
Which is why I posed the question about the visilble public presence of persons of Jewish decent and assertion of "Jewish control." The assertion that presence is a manifestation of control is false --- in the very least unsupported.
Just 10 years ago, in Crown Heights...
Obviously true. Murdock does. Conrad Black does. But what can't happen is to stray too far from the party line. Saudi-backed media which attempted to take a pro-Arab line would get raked over the coals.
When Black attempted to bring a genuinely conservative media voice to the Canadian scene, he was repeatedly attacked from every direction. Eventually he gave in and sold out to the liberal Izzy Asper. BTW, for what it's worth (and I think it's worth precisely nothing), Asper is a Jew and Black is married to one.
Murdock's FOX News gets beaten on simply because it is balanced.
I said that we win when we compete on a level playing field. It's almost piling on when we compete with inferiors- for fairness you should be benched.
1190: Massacre of Jews in York, England.
1290: Jews expelled from England
I said that we win when we compete on a level playing field. It's almost piling on when we compete with inferiors- for fairness you should be benched.
1190: Massacre of Jews in York, England.
1290: Jews expelled from England
Leo Frank
Write another stupid comment. At a certain number from your side, counting from the morning, I know it's time for lunch.
One of the rules of "civil discourse" is that racism is allowable on the part of blacks. It is also allowable to be anti-Christian but not anti-Judism. The fact that these two rules are contradictory is irrelevant. Many of the rules contradict each other.
In this charming essay, Sobran blames "the Jews" for communism, fascism, secular humanism, the atom bomb (no, I'm not kidding) and almost every other evil in human history. If he's not an anti-Semite in the true meaning of the word, I don't know who is.
Only goes to prove what I was saying: you will go to any lengths to justify your nonsense. Attack silly fools. Dredge incidents out of ancient history. JMJ even thinks that Moslems killing Christians is proof of anti-semitism.
Part of your problem is that your memory is far too long.
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