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Freeper Research on the Anthrax Perp
Various FR Posters | 11/15/01 | Various FR Posters

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl

The perp is here on a student VISA. He is Islamic and Middle Eastern. He may be a member of Al Queda. English is not his primary language, he may be a proficient computer user or coder especially if Al Queda.

He was given anthrax and perhaps more biochems – of various grades. They may have been made in Iraq – they may have been made here. He did not develop them himself. He knows lab procedures.

He is fairly diligent in handling the anthrax, but he is not perfect. He knows Dr. Malik, chairman of the Islamic Society of NJ. He may work with him. He’s been to the doctor’s office at 1542 Kuser Road in Trenton NJ. While there he accidentally infected the accountant next door at Civale Silvestri & Alfieri CPA, 1540 Kuser Road.

The perp may be from Pakistan and may have sought out Dr. Malik’s help (because he is also from Pakistan) to get employment/access to a nearby university hospital, Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital at Hamilton. Dr Malik is on the staff there. The perp may have used lab facilities in the hospital (either at Hamilton or the main campus or one of its affiliates) to safely handle or prep the different batches of anthrax.

There probably are other people in his cell who may already be in custody - one with Florida license plates and others from Canada.

Several arrests of Pakistani nationals were made in Trenton/Hamilton two weeks ago --some in the Greenwood Village apartments, and some at 1001 N. Olden Street. The N. Olden Street arrests took place after a witness observed a man gingerly placing letters enclosed in a ziploc bag into his car. The car had Florida license plates.

Just after the events of September 11, the FBI arrested Mohammed Pervez, a naturalized U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent. Pervez was a Jersey City roommate of Ali Ayub Kahn and Mohammed Jazweeth Azmath, suspected of being hijackers whose plans were thwarted when their plane was grounded in St. Louis. Pervez, who worked in both Trenton and Newark train stations, was also a roommate of the potential anthrax suspects detained from the Greenwood village apartments in Hamilton.

There may be a chain of infection following the medical route – like there is following the mail route.

In DelRay Beach, Florida – a pharmacist (Gregg Chatterton at Huber Healthmart Drugs) claimed to have talked to Atta and another hijacker when they came into his pharmacy with ailments last August. Mostly, we heard about Atta, who had red hands. But the other hijacker, Marwan Al-Shehhi, had symptoms of inhalation anthrax (cough) that would have required him to visit a doctor in his area. The pharmacist said that a man resembling Al-Shehhi had returned to have a prescription filled, but his name was not found in their records – leading the investigators to think he had used an alias. The pharmacist said the red hands looked like a result from washing with bleach – that it did not look like cutaneous anthrax.

In Chester PA on 11/14/01 - teams of FBI agents complete with hazmat gear and tents, broke down door(s), swabbed and seized evidence at two homes and the city hall. One house was shared by City Health Commissioner Irshad Shaikh and his brother Masood. The other was the home of city accountant Asif Kazi. They are all from Pakistan. Kazi’s wife had a prescription for Cipro. Kazi had been seen dumping a cloudy liquid and handing a silver canister to someone.

Dr. Shaikh PhD. has been the Commissioner of Health since 1994. He received his undergrad and postgraduate diplomas in Community Medicine in Pakistan. He received his Masters and PhD in Public Health from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. He is fellow of the Public Health Leadership Institute (PHLI). PHLI is an executive leadership program of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the University of California at Berkeley. Dr. Shaikh also holds a faculty appointment at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health.

Welcome to the Johns Hopkins University Center for Civilian Biodefense Studies"...Sponsored by The Alfred P. Sloan Foundation & The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation..."

Freepers wonder if this Could he be THE Asif Kazi, or is it a very common Pakistani name?

Tests are now being performed for Dr. Gerald Weisfogel who believes he may have had skin anthrax earlier than the mailings. There are three Gerald M. Weisfogel's listed in NJ - Franklin Park, Kendall Park and Metuchen. Dr. Gerald Weisfogel is chief of cardiology at the JFK Medical Center in New Jersey, which is in Edison, New Jersey. Edison is just across the river from New Brunswick. He indicated on GMA that he had Middle Eastern patients.

Kendall Park, Franklin Park, Edison, and Metuchen are all close to each other, going north on Rte. 1. So all the addresses are probably for the same guy: hospital in Edison, offices in Metuchen and either or Franklin Park or Kendall Park, and home in the fourth place

There are significant labs in Piscataway, across the river from New Brunswick, the main campus of RWJ. Robert Wood Johnson has two high-profile microbiology labs in Piscataway -- the CABM(Center forAdvanced Biotechnology and Medicine) and the Waksman Institute. The Waksman Institute is a "microbe farm," producing germ "products" for industry and research.

Metuchen is right up the road to the northeast. (And down the road about 12 miles along Route 1 is the Islamic Society and Franklin Park.)

The perp accidentally infected the lady in New York. He did not go there by subway – he drove in. He may have gone to New York to pick up or deliver the anthrax. The car he used is most likely still contaminated. He may have rolled down a window or opened a door at just the wrong time for Kathy. The perp, may be working for RWJ University Hospital and had a business contact with Kathy’s hospital.

He is a member or attendee of The Islamic Society of Central Jersey. He has written many letters to them; he knows the zip code by heart. Although he gave a different town name on the return address (Franklin Park) – he automatically used the zip code he knew for that area. But the zip code does not go with Franklin Park.

There are probably canceled checks or correspondence at the Islamic Society of NJ that can be matched to his handwriting.

He is a member of Islamic student associations. He may have attended or be in association with a student at ETSU which is near an elementary school named "Greendale" in Abingdon, VA (a tri-state area.) He didn’t grab that name out of the air – neither brook nor dale would be common words to him.

In the alternative, he might have intentionally changed the name of a nearby school "Greenbrook" to "Greendale." The Greenbrook school only goes to the 4th grade.

Another possibility: Greendale and Franklin, WI are right next to each other. The NJ school is Greenbrook School, not Greendale. Could it be some Freudian slip? There are 15,000 Muslims in the area.

The block lettering may indicate that he is a tutor for elementary level students or has (or is undertaking) an engineering or architecture education.

The emphasis on the letters might have been intentional – pointing to ATTA.

If he is Al Queda, he may present himself secular – going to bars, joining clubs, protesting the terrorists, etc.

He may be dead or missing.

Medical anthrax trail - there should also be a star for New Brunswick!

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TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: amerithrax; anthrax; anthraxscarelist; fbi
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1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
BTTT
2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:45 PM PST by ez2muz
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To: ez2muz
volley bttt!
3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:45 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
As far as the name Asif Kazi is concerned - Kazi (or Qazi or Khazi) is a very common last name. It means "judge" and is the designation for lots of low-level functionaries - like the English surnames "Judge" or "Cooper" or "Fletcher", it's just a last name based on a profession.
4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:45 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Bump.
5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:46 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Alamo-Girl
Very good Watson.......You'll put the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew out of business.....

Not to mention the FBI, CIA and the rest of the federal alphabet soup!

But we must remember, this is a lone right wing conspirarcy.....er uh..that caused wake turbelence....not weapon grade...ummmm...the engine just fell off.....

NeverGore

6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:46 PM PST by nevergore
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To: wideawake
Thank you!!! Did you happen to read the conversation on that message board? The flow of the conversation is what raised a lot of concern on the previous thread.
7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:46 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: nevergore
LOL! IMHO that "line" is being promoted heavily by the left in order to get sympathy for the numerous anthrax mail threats to Planned Parenthood over the years. The FBI on the other hand made no such claim on their profile and certainly went directly after M.E. guys in full hazmat gear just yesterday in Chester, PA!

BTW, I believe the mailers of fake anthrax should be subject to intense prosecution. The act creates terror, even in a hoax.

8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:47 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
BTW, I forgot to say......

Excellent, detailed analysis....

NeverGore

9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:50 PM PST by nevergore
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To: Alamo-Girl
WOW, thanks AG, in addition the zip code from the Dashall letter is 08852. That zip is for Monmouth Junction, NJ where the good DR. Milik is the director of one of the local Schools for Muslims.
10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:50 PM PST by Yellow Rose of Texas
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To: Alamo-Girl
Excellent.
11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:50 PM PST by 11B3
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To: gumbo; aristeides; amom; Yellow Rose of Texas; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; GeorgeandtheDralgore...
For your continuing research...
12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:50 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
WOW!

Those stars are getting close to me.... it also seems they follow the interstate......hmmmmmm

Ma'am thank you for putting this together..

13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:50 PM PST by Dog
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To: nevergore
Thank you so very much! Hugs!!!
14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:50 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas
Thank you so much for the additional information!
15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:50 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: 11B3
Thank you!!!
16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:51 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: nevergore
the federal alphabet soup is not going to find the Antrax Perp. The only way he get caught is if some one turns him in.
17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:51 PM PST by oyez
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To: Dog
It does form a rather neat line... Thank you so very much for the kudos!!!
18 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:51 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Excellent work Alamo-Girl!

Do a search on my handle and go through the Anthrax/Al Queda threads that I posted to. You might find more details to flush out the profile of these perps. Long before we FReepers heard of the Florida tag on the NJ suspect's car, I suspected there was an Al Queda link from Florida to NJ, except I thought they flew a private plane up to NJ with the Anthrax just prior to the Sept. 11th attack. Maybe they just road tripped it up the East coast.

When you wrap up this case, I've got another project for you.

20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:51 PM PST by anymouse
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To: Alamo-Girl; *Anthrax_Scare_List
Just indexing.
21 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:51 PM PST by Mitchell
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To: Alamo-Girl
WOW - you are good! Have you contacted the FBI?
22 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:51 PM PST by mombonn
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To: Cavalry
Whoa!

Your joking right??

23 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:51 PM PST by Dog
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To: Alamo-Girl
A-G, you are sumpin' else :)

Great post!

24 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:51 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Sabertooth; Spirit Of Truth; gumbo
bttt
25 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:51 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thankyou for the excellent post.

Hopkins is now outrageously claiming they have no anthrax at their facilities, which is an obvious and easily proveable lie. That's almost like Fort Detrick saying they have no Anthrax at their facility.

26 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:51 PM PST by t-shirt
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"...I believe the mailers of fake anthrax should be subject to intense prosecution."

Like the Florida Judge O`Reilly had on his show last night. Called the woman names (from the bench!) and bumped her bail up into the outta sight range.

"I'll set your bail at $2,500...no, wait, you may be able to bond out... let's make that $25,000." Sorry, can't recall his name... I think it was Broward county.

27 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:52 PM PST by ez2muz
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thank you for your excellent work. Now, if only our government employed people who had such good analytical skills we might catch the perps.
28 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:52 PM PST by austingirl
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To: Alamo-Girl
When you add in New Brunswick, there seems to be a blank around Philadelphia. Thanks for the great work on this. Very nice.
29 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Alamo-Girl
Suggest we get this to as many media people as we can. Sympathetic media people, not the ones who Y E A R N and H U N G E R for a right winger to be responsible for all of this. Great job Alamo Girl.
30 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:52 PM PST by Vinomori
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To: Cavalry
It's called deductive logic. You might try it sometime.
31 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:54 PM PST by anymouse
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To: Alamo-Girl
Beautifully done, AG! Thank you!
32 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:54 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: Alamo-Girl
Great job...I especially like the way you connected the alleged perp with Manhattan Eye and Ear Hospital where Nguyen worked. It's only a matter of time before we have 'em...
33 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:54 PM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Alamo-Girl
index.
34 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:54 PM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: Alamo-Girl
You are a treasure!

Pretty cool.

35 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:55 PM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: Alamo-Girl
Excelent analysis.
Are you passing this info "up the food chain"?
36 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:55 PM PST by TheRightGuy
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To: Alamo-Girl
The perp is here on a student VISA. He is Islamic and Middle Eastern. He may be a member of Al Queda. English is not his primary language...

The perp is here on a student VISA. I suspect otherwise

He is Islamic I don't think so.

and Middle Eastern. Nope. North Korean is my bet.

He may be a member of Al Queda. Unlikely

English is not his primary language and neither is Arabic. Note the dates on the xeroxed letters in the *anthrax letterbomb*

See also *this article*

-archy-/-

37 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:55 PM PST by archy
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To: Alamo-Girl
Just after the events of September 11, the FBI arrested Mohammed Pervez, a naturalized U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent. Pervez was a Jersey City roommate of Ali Ayub Kahn and Mohammed Jazweeth Azmath, suspected of being hijackers whose plans were thwarted when their plane was grounded in St. Louis. Pervez, who worked in both Trenton and Newark train stations, was also a roommate of the potential anthrax suspects detained from the Greenwood village apartments in Hamilton.

Ali Ayub Khan also listed as one of his addresses the same Chicago apartment house as Sabash Gurung is staying in with his brother. Gurung is the Nepalese who was arrested at O'Hare Airport with a large stash of weapons (knives, a stun gun, etc.). The FBI said (or implied) that the Ali Khan who lives in the same apartment house as Gurung is a different Ali Khan, that it's a coincidence of names. But this seems not to be the case -- in fact, there is a newspaper article on Khan, dated well before Gurung was in the news, which gives that Chicago address for him. See this thread for details.

Some of these apartments seem to be rented just for the purpose of having a meeting place for a cell in a particular city. Or maybe some of these people move around quite a bit. (After all, the cells have to communicate with one another, if only indirectly, so there are probably some individuals who are members of 2 or perhaps even 3 cells, slthough most people will be members of only one cell and will know nothing about anybody else.

38 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:55 PM PST by Mitchell
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To: Alamo-Girl
Nice work. A hospital lab would not likely be adequate to safely handle anthrax in quantity or otherwise grow, harvest, lyophilize, etc., though.....
39 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:55 PM PST by tracer
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To: Alamo-Girl
Wow! WTG, Alamo-Girl!
40 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:56 PM PST by Elenya
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To: Alamo-Girl
Just another OUTSTANDING Job!

Thanks 'Girl!

41 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:56 PM PST by HoustonKevin
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To: oyez
Maybe they think "Richard Jewell" did it.....

NeverGore

42 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:57 PM PST by nevergore
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To: Alamo-Girl; gumbo; aristeides; bvw; tracer
Question to all:

Does anybody know anything about the medical disposal company that takes care of the Manhattan Eye, Ear & Throat Hospital waste,

the Walsh Integrated Environmental Systems Inc

List of the local hospitals that participate

Their web page doesn't work. But maybe there are FReepers who've heard of them

43 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:57 PM PST by Elenya
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To: Alamo-Girl
I ran across this and posted it last night. See how it fits into your theories. Its a bit different but not off the wall.

Anthrax: Profile of A Bio-Warrior and What the FBI May Have Missed

44 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:58 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Cavalry
Hey simpleton. You wouldn't be allowed to take out the lady's garbage.
45 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:58 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Alamo-Girl
YOU RULE!!! GREAT WORK
46 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:07 PM PST by alisasny
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To: Alamo-Girl
More related *here*
48 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:15 PM PST by archy
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To: Alamo-Girl; Mitchell
Very impressive detective work Alamo-girl! If you haven't forwarded your profile of the Anthrax perp to the FBI you should consider it!

Mitchell, great catch! You too should forward your tip.

The logic and perseverence of the people on this forum never ceases to amaze me. Nice nice work, both of you!

49 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:15 PM PST by terilyn
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To: Spirit Of Truth
I saw your tip on AMW last week! Of course they couldn't give details without tipping off the possible terrorist, but I knew who they were talking about. Way to keep pressing. That's the only way the FBI is ever going to solve this. Great job!
50 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:16 PM PST by terilyn
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