Skip to comments.A Swift Victory Foretold - God's Hand in this War
Posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:02 PM PST by AmericaUnited
October 4, 2001 Neotropolis - Dallas Texas
Dallas Gathering Thursday Night
The Spirit of the Lord says This is the best time of your life, Now that youve gotten on your knees and prayed, I am going to change everything for you. Its not going to be a long drawn out war, Its going to be a swift war that I am going to win for you.
This is not going to be a drawn out thing, even though its been prognosticated to be a drawn out thing. You will take a while to find those that are hidden in their holes.
I am not going to waste your time and your money, which is valuable to me, says the Lord. I am not going to let you waste billions and trillions of dollars so that you can find out how well it is to win the war. Youve won wars in the past. Youve won wars for hundreds of years. Why would you take too long to go through the same thing that happened 20 years ago? God says, No, its not going to happen. Its going to be a swift thing. And when I do it, says the Lord, I am going to cut off your enemy and I am going to raise up righteousness in this nation.
And Ill tell you why, says the Sprit of the Lord, Because there are traitors within the groups. There are traitors within the groups and they shall betray one another. America wont have to do a thing. The Spirit of Judas has seized and gotten a hold of some of the greedy men that have perpetrated this against the United States of America. I want you to understand that they will betray each other for just a little bit of money. America wont even have to go and root them out. And they will bring them to you. Your enemies will bow before you. Why? Because I will honor you because of your prayers to me. says the Lord. One shall die before he can reach this nation. But let it not be concerning to you, says the Lord. For there is a greater purpose that I have. For even those who planned and purposed to do this thing for they will scatter says the Lord. For it was not only the disciples that scattered that day, but their disciples will also scatter on that day. For there will be surrender, surrender, surrender, surrender. Four times there will be surrenders.
And because of the surrenders America shall rejoice. But then suddenly there shall be bad news. And then the people shall sway just for a moment. But fear not says the Lord, for once again there shall be an act of betrayal which will cause one and then another which is in a high place to fall and fall so strongly. Why? Because even as I stood outside of Capernaum and I said, You that have raised yourself, Prince of Capernaum, I enter the heavens, you shall be brought down to hell and they say to him, they saw Satan fall like lightning from the heaven. And God says And God says the spirits of this age that have come against my people will fall from a lofty place. And I will stand with you and rejoice, says the Lord. Into the early part of next year, you will see my glory, says the Lord. For they have said, Will America stay on her knees? Or is this just a short lived repentance and a short lived moment? But God says There will yet be your enemies that will survive. And there will be those that will keep prayer in their hearts. Did I not say that I would unite every culture and every race within this country? Therefore it is not a short-lived thing, (The peoples need for God). I am not saying the peoples need for religion. Its the peoples need for God. And you will not take religion and give it to them. You will take God and give it to them. For I will introduce myself to America as I did three hundred years ago. I will introduce myself as the God of salvation, the God of grace, the God of Deliverance and the God of mercy. Fear not for I am going to bring you back to the place that you have been and this shall go on for 20 to 30 years where people will rejoice because of the victory that God gave this great nation. For America, the Lord says, You are once again great because I have made you great.
There will be at least one person in every home in the United States of America who will come to salvation in the next 12 months. Thats a promise of the Lord!
For all those who don't believe that God speaks to his prophets/people, just move along, nothing to see here.
November 16, 2001 -- WASHINGTON - U.S. intelligence agents inside Afghanistan are interviewing a handful of key Taliban defectors who are offering to sell information on the whereabouts of terror master Osama bin Laden.
Intelligence sources told The Post last night that in the last several days, as the Taliban's military infrastructure collapsed in most of Afghanistan, a number of warlords have approached the CIA and Special Forces operatives eager to cut a deal and betray bin Laden and his henchmen.
Mohammed's message to kill all jews and infidels sure was a message of peace. /sarcasm
LOL! Of course not! Religious kooks can always find *excuses that work for them* for why the "prophecies" of false prophets didn't quite work out.:)
Power hungry politicians like Karl Marx and the Clintons, aren't the only ones that recognize the multitude of opportunities presented to them by "useful idiots".
And why is that? Don't tell me that you are one of those "Christians" that does not believe in the Bible. How strange...
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
And that is exactly why the kooks cannot be ignored. The phrase, "silence gives consent", is true.
Kooks have the right to speak and write, but those who don't want to be tarred and feathered with that same "kook brush", had better speak up and distance themselves from this stuff when they see it posted.
Whenever I send "new people" to this web site, I always give them the "caveat" ("let the reader beware") that they will encounter some kooks here, but that they should not assume that most of the people who post here are in agreement with them.
And you should know that He has **already done that** in Scripture.
BTW ..... are you going to answer the question Poohbah asked you in #10?: "If Kim's prophesy of one person in every home coming to salvation doesn't happen by October 4th, 2002, are you going to stone her to death, as G-d's Scripture commands be done to false prophets?"
That IS the bottom line, you know. Or do you? :) BTTT
I get very suspicious of prophecies revealed "after the fact."
Sorry, the teachings that all prophecy stopped when scripture was completed is just so wrong. The evidense is just too overwhelming AGAINST that theology.
Same goes for those who say God does not perform miracles today, that ended in the early New Testement days also.
So much for it being "made up" after the fact.
No, not exactly amazing... I posted it because it did seem to happen.
BTW! Getting back to false prophets? Are you going to answer Poohbah's question in #10?
Yes, I will, as soon as you guys stone to death, as required in the Old Testament, all adulterers and homosexuals that you know of.
Now, now .... it's not nice to confuse the victims of cognitive dissonance more than they already are.
If you read all of what she (I'm assuming she's a "she") says, her prognostications are sufficiently vague enough that she has an "out" no matter what happens.
That's how false prophets cover themselves.
After they've pocketed the moolah from the saps who lap this stuff up like mother's milk.
"The United states of America shall see a Christmas like no other Christmas it has ever had. It will be a Christmas of great celebration. It will be a where every household in this nation, even if theyve called themselves atheist, even if theyve called themselves agnostic. It shall be the greatest Christmas. And there shall be more salvations and more deliverances this Christmas than has ever taken place in the history as Christmas as you know it today . Why? Because this nation will rejoice because of the victory they have attained. And God says, I will make you wealthy because there will be a surrender of oil. There will be oil that will be given to you because agreements will take place, says the Lord. And I will cause there to be an economic revival that will begin next year and shall carry you through to the year 2005. NASDAQ, NASDAQ where are you? For God says, I shall raise you up. And you shall be victorious because this nation is mine says the Lord.
Well, let's see if it happens...
"If Kim's prophesy of one person in every home coming to salvation doesn't happen by October 4th, 2002, are you going to stone her to death, as G-d's Scripture commands be done to false prophets?"
"Yes, I will, as soon as you guys stone to death, as required in the Old Testament, all adulterers and homosexuals that you know of.
I really don't think that with the present laws in this country, the police would allow anyone to get away with stoning either false prophets or adulterers or homosexuals, etc.
However, if the more specific prophecy at the end of the message: "There will be at least one person in every home in the United States of America who will come to salvation in the next 12 months. Thats a promise of the Lord!" doesn't come to pass, I would take that as a sure sign that she is a false prophet.
Maybe not someone to be stoned (the present law in this country won't allow it), but certainly someone to be ignored.
False prophets, making predictictions that are suppossed to be from the Lord, just give non-Christians something to make fun of Christians about, and sow seeds of doubt among impressionable Christians who are not secure in their faith.
False prophets making false prophecies do an extreme disservice to the Lord.
And vice-president Jeb Bush will be elected President in 2008!
So can we assume you're saying that "false prophets" are engaging in evil conduct deserving of stoning, also?
That he's a false prophet:
Kim Clement is one of the most active (and most heretical) of the modern-day "prophets" setting up a Global Church. I use the word heretical because in the strict sense of that word, Kim Clement does deviate from the correct interpretation of the scriptures on the foundational elements of our faith.
On Kim Clement's own website, he denies the born-again experience of John Chapter 3. He also states that evangelists are scaring people to commit to Jesus by telling them they are going to hell, rather than opening them up to their inner potential.
He believes (as do the Gnostics) that each person is born with a hidden treasure in their spirit, which can be unlocked and developed if he/she sees the possibilities. You should read his entire article to get an understanding of his teaching as a whole, but here are some extracts:
Many have questioned my doctrine and what I believe because of my strong feeling of disgust toward the escapism teaching. [The Rapture] ...The book of Revelation is the revelation of Jesus Christ, not the revelation of Satan...
After an extensive study on the life of Jesus, I found that the way He reached people was to unveil their spiritual eyes to see the potential beauty that could be released if they followed Him. For example, after Jesus spoke life to Nathaniel he fell down and worshiped Him. Jesus spoke about the Kingdom of God opening and angels ascending and descending hereafter. The Kingdom of God was inside of Nathaniel; therefore Jesus had unlocked the spirit of that man and given him access to the Kingdom within.
In Luke 5, ... Peter fell on his knees and repented saying, "Depart from me for I am a sinful man". Not once did Jesus mention Peters sin, nor did He try to coax him into following Him based on his going to Hell or being eternally damned.
I know how a sinner feels because I have been one. ... Only when I was introduced to Jesus did I become aware of the fact that I had something precious in my spirit. When I met Him, I felt good about myself. I was aware of the fact that I had to change, but what was fascinating was that I felt like I could become a new creation when I met Him. My spirit was dead unto sin, but once I was alive in Christ, I had access to the treasure within me. What is this treasure within me? The treasure within me is my pre-ordained destiny and my inheritance. This was the inheritance that Jesus granted to me at the cross, based upon my acceptance of His sacrifice.
I do not believe that you must be born again to obtain salvation. ...The Bible clearly tells us that "whosoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved" and "whosoever believes on Him shall have everlasting life." When Nicodemus approached Jesus, he came with a hungry heart declaring that "no one could do these signs that You do unless God is with Him". Jesus was a demonstration of dominion that no one else had, and Nicodemus was inquiring about it. Nicodemus was not asking how to be saved.
BEFORE Jesus died on the cross, He told Nicodemus, who was saved according to the law [at that time]; " Unless one is born again, he cannot SEE the KINGDOM OF GOD." Jesus was not speaking about the salvation that would come because of His sacrifice on the cross. He was referring to seeing and inheriting the Kingdom of God.
I believe that only after salvation do you qualify to see, inherit and possess the Kingdom of God, which is inside of you [his emphasis]. ...The Kingdom within is simply the domain of God demonstrated through us. There is no physical place to enter the Kingdom of God. You SEEK the Kingdom; you SEE the Kingdom; you ENTER, you POSSESS and you INHERIT.
... The sinner wants something that he does not have. To approach them on the basis of their sin and condemning them to Hell, will only increase their contempt or else it will manipulate them into making a decision in order to survive the flames of Hell. ... the way Jesus approached the sinner was through His perception of their need and the potential that was inside of them. ...
In a meeting that is packed with a prophetic people who prophesy [or unveil truth and who have vision], an unbeliever will discover that he is a treasure in Gods eyes. He will suddenly discover, and keenly be aware of the fact, that there is something beautiful that could come out of him.
I hope that I do not need to spell out why the above doctrine is heretical. Kim Clement's teachings should be avoided at all costs.
I don't know how America would react to that. They seemed to have mixed feelings about having 2 Kennedys in the Executive branch.
This was a great website when I joined a couple of years before you, and continues to be; this is a discussion forum and the only thing that WOULD erode it would be if people only posted the articles or info that you or anyone else wishing to limit or restrict the diversity of subject matter were to boss the place. I think your comment simply lays bare a prejudice against religion perhaps? I dont believe every wind of doctrine that blows through here myself, but that doesnt mean this type of post should be censored either.