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A Swift Victory Foretold - God's Hand in this War
Kim Clement ^ | October 4, 2001 | Kim Clement

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:02 PM PST by AmericaUnited

October 4, 2001 Neotropolis - Dallas Texas

Dallas Gathering Thursday Night

The Spirit of the Lord says “ This is the best time of your life, Now that you’ve gotten on your knees and prayed, I am going to change everything for you. It’s not going to be a long drawn out war, It’s going to be a swift war that I am going to win for you.”

“ This is not going to be a drawn out thing, even though it’s been prognosticated to be a drawn out thing. You will take a while to find those that are hidden in their holes”.

“ I am not going to waste your time and your money, which is valuable to me, says the Lord. I am not going to let you waste billions and trillions of dollars so that you can find out how well it is to win the war. You’ve won wars in the past. You’ve won wars for hundreds of years. Why would you take too long to go through the same thing that happened 20 years ago?” God says, “No, it’s not going to happen. It’s going to be a swift thing. And when I do it,” says the Lord, “I am going to cut off your enemy and I am going to raise up righteousness in this nation.”

“And I’ll tell you why”, says the Sprit of the Lord, “Because there are traitors within the groups. There are traitors within the groups and they shall betray one another. America won’t have to do a thing. The Spirit of Judas has seized and gotten a hold of some of the greedy men that have perpetrated this against the United States of America. I want you to understand that they will betray each other for just a little bit of money. America won’t even have to go and root them out. And they will bring them to you. Your enemies will bow before you. Why? Because I will honor you because of your prayers to me.” says the Lord. “One shall die before he can reach this nation. But let it not be concerning to you,” says the Lord. “For there is a greater purpose that I have. For even those who planned and purposed to do this thing for they will scatter” says the Lord. “For it was not only the disciples that scattered that day, but their disciples will also scatter on that day. For there will be surrender, surrender, surrender, surrender. Four times there will be surrenders.

And because of the surrenders America shall rejoice. But then suddenly there shall be bad news. And then the people shall sway just for a moment. But fear not says the Lord, for once again there shall be an act of betrayal which will cause one and then another which is in a high place to fall and fall so strongly. Why? Because even as I stood outside of Capernaum and I said, “You that have raised yourself, Prince of Capernaum, I enter the heavens, you shall be brought down to hell” and they say to him, they saw Satan fall like lightning from the heaven.” And God says “And God says the spirits of this age that have come against my people will fall from a lofty place. And I will stand with you and rejoice,” says the Lord. “Into the early part of next year, you will see my glory,” says the Lord. “For they have said, “Will America stay on her knees? Or is this just a short lived repentance and a short lived moment?” But God says “There will yet be your enemies that will survive. And there will be those that will keep prayer in their hearts. Did I not say that I would unite every culture and every race within this country? Therefore it is not a short-lived thing, (The people’s need for God). I am not saying “the people’s need for religion”. It’s the people’s need for God. And you will not take religion and give it to them. You will take God and give it to them. For I will introduce myself to America as I did three hundred years ago. I will introduce myself as the God of salvation, the God of grace, the God of Deliverance and the God of mercy. Fear not for I am going to bring you back to the place that you have been and this shall go on for 20 to 30 years where people will rejoice because of the victory that God gave this great nation. “For America,” the Lord says, “You are once again great because I have made you great.”

Kim Prophesies:

There will be at least one person in every home in the United States of America who will come to salvation in the next 12 months. That’s a promise of the Lord!


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To: AmericaUnited
Amazing how it wasn't published here on FR until AFTER things collapsed in Afghanistan, though.

I get very suspicious of prophecies revealed "after the fact."

21 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:59 PM PST by Poohbah
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I certainly pray it's a short war but it isn't over till bin Laden's head is on a stick! Also, what about Iraq? Lot of payback is needed there.
23 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:59 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: Matchett-PI
And you should know that He has **already done that** in Scripture.

Sorry, the teachings that all prophecy stopped when scripture was completed is just so wrong. The evidense is just too overwhelming AGAINST that theology.

Same goes for those who say God does not perform miracles today, that ended in the early New Testement days also.

24 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:00 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Poohbah
Poohbah, go to the website link yourself. This word was spoken to a large crowd at the Neotropolis, Dallas, Texas on October 4th, and it has been on the person's website for at least the past 6 weeks.

So much for it being "made up" after the fact.

25 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:01 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
The WAR has a long way to go we are just at the begining stages.
26 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:02 PM PST by ocean
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To: Poohbah
Amazing how it wasn't published here on FR until AFTER things collapsed in Afghanistan, though.

No, not exactly amazing... I posted it because it did seem to happen.

27 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:02 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
Thank you for taking the time to post that good word from the Lord. Very similar prophecies have come forth in our meetings as well. The Lord has been emphasizing prayer and intercession in a MAJOR way.
28 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:02 PM PST by Selara
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To: AmericaUnited; oldglory; Poohbah
It's quite "evident" that what constitutes "evidence for you" is not what would constitute "evidence" for most others.

BTW! Getting back to false prophets? Are you going to answer Poohbah's question in #10?

29 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:02 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: Matchett-PI; Poohbah
BTW ..... are you going to answer the question Poohbah asked you in #10?: "If Kim's prophesy of one person in every home coming to salvation doesn't happen by October 4th, 2002, are you going to stone her to death, as G-d's Scripture commands be done to false prophets?"

Yes, I will, as soon as you guys stone to death, as required in the Old Testament, all adulterers and homosexuals that you know of.

30 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:02 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: ocean; oldglory
"The WAR has a long way to go we are just at the begining stages."

Now, now .... it's not nice to confuse the victims of cognitive dissonance more than they already are.

31 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:05 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: AmericaUnited
No doubt the plate was passed after this, and all of Kim's other "prophecies", were proclaimed.

If you read all of what she (I'm assuming she's a "she") says, her prognostications are sufficiently vague enough that she has an "out" no matter what happens.

That's how false prophets cover themselves.

After they've pocketed the moolah from the saps who lap this stuff up like mother's milk.

32 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:05 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: AmericaUnited
Okay, more to the point. If the prophecy at the end of your post doesn't come to pass, will you denounce her as a false prophet? The larger prophecy is too general to be terribly impressive (though this doesn't make it false), and the same predictions could (and probably have) been made by many people not claiming prophetic gifts or insight. Joseph Smith pulled the same stunt regarding the Civil War. However, this prophet goes out on a definite limb with the final statement, so are you prepared to declare her a false prophet if it doesn't come to pass? We needn't stone her, because we're not living in the theocracy of the Israelites. However, that doesn't change the test of a true prophet.
33 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:05 PM PST by william clark
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To: Matchett-PI
How about responding to my #30 or does the cat now have your tongue.
34 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:06 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
From http://www.kimclement.com/words/oct2001/oct28pm_2001.htm:

"The United states of America shall see a Christmas like no other Christmas it has ever had. It will be a Christmas of great celebration. It will be a where every household in this nation, even if they’ve called themselves atheist, even if they’ve called themselves agnostic. It shall be the greatest Christmas. And there shall be more salvations and more deliverances this Christmas than has ever taken place in the history as Christmas as you know it today…. Why? Because this nation will rejoice because of the victory they have attained. And God says, I will make you wealthy because there will be a surrender of oil. There will be oil that will be given to you because agreements will take place, says the Lord. And I will cause there to be an economic revival that will begin next year and shall carry you through to the year 2005. NASDAQ, NASDAQ where are you? For God says, I shall raise you up. And you shall be victorious because this nation is mine says the Lord.”

Well, let's see if it happens...

35 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:06 PM PST by Sceaming_Gerbil
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To: AmericaUnited
...and Saturday's LOTTO numbers are???
36 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:06 PM PST by LN2Campy
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To: AmericaUnited
Idiot
37 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:06 PM PST by BamaG
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To: AmericaUnited
No, YOU are the one claiming a superior level of Godliness compared to us scoffing heathen. Set the example for us and stone her FIRST, that we might know that we are to stone the adulterers and homosexuals.
38 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:08 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: AmericaUnited
I'll respond to your comment #30:

"If Kim's prophesy of one person in every home coming to salvation doesn't happen by October 4th, 2002, are you going to stone her to death, as G-d's Scripture commands be done to false prophets?"

"Yes, I will, as soon as you guys stone to death, as required in the Old Testament, all adulterers and homosexuals that you know of.

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I really don't think that with the present laws in this country, the police would allow anyone to get away with stoning either false prophets or adulterers or homosexuals, etc.

However, if the more specific prophecy at the end of the message: "There will be at least one person in every home in the United States of America who will come to salvation in the next 12 months. That’s a promise of the Lord!" doesn't come to pass, I would take that as a sure sign that she is a false prophet.

Maybe not someone to be stoned (the present law in this country won't allow it), but certainly someone to be ignored.

False prophets, making predictictions that are suppossed to be from the Lord, just give non-Christians something to make fun of Christians about, and sow seeds of doubt among impressionable Christians who are not secure in their faith.

False prophets making false prophecies do an extreme disservice to the Lord.

39 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:10 PM PST by Sceaming_Gerbil
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To: Sceaming_Gerbil
"And I will cause there to be an economic revival that will begin next year and shall carry you through to the year 2005. NASDAQ, NASDAQ where are you? For God says, I shall raise you up. And you shall be victorious because this nation is mine says the Lord.”

And vice-president Jeb Bush will be elected President in 2008!

40 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:14 PM PST by f.Christian
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