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THE DEFINITION OF “DOMESTIC TERRORISM”
New Boortz NEALZ NUZE ^ | November 20, 2001 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 11/20/2001 9:42:17 AM PST by jgrubbs

THE DEFINITION OF “DOMESTIC TERRORISM”
Yesterday I mentioned a brochure someone sent me from the Phoenix FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force. This is a brochure handed out to law enforcement officers in the Phoenix area to help them identify potential “domestic terrorists.”

The brochure starts out with “If you encounter any of the following, call the Joint Terrorism Task Force. The brochure then proceeds to set forth certain things that the law enforcement officers need to look for. They include ….

Pretty good stuff, huh? Let’s say you’re stopped by the cops and they want to search your car. You cite your Constitutional right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure and ask the cop why he stopped you and what he is looking for. Suddenly your name is reported to a terrorism task force.

Is any of this beginning to sound just a little frightening to you?

Well .. let’s read some more from the brochure:

“The FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force is attempting to identify criminal activities with domestic terrorists. In this regard, the purpose of this information sheet is to assist uniformed patrol officers in identifying potential domestic terrorists.
”Domestic terrorism is defined as: Groups or individuals operating entirely inside the US, attempting to influence the US government or population to effect political or social change by engaging in criminal activity.”

Do you need to read that again? Go ahead, I’ll wait.

Break this down. Any individual who violates a law in an attempt to influence the government or other people in an attempt to produce some political or social change is a domestic terrorist. Some examples:
  1. You make an illegal campaign contribution
  2. You trespass on private property while engaged in a demonstration
  3. You remove campaign yard signs erected by a politician you don’t support
  4. You illegally place campaign signs in the highway right-of-way
  5. You withhold a percentage of your income taxes to protest military spending
All of the above actions fit easily into the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force definition and thus make you a “domestic terrorist” according to this brochure.

If you aren’t starting to get a little concerned about our civil liberties at this point, you’re either a leftist or you’re asleep.


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1 posted on 11/20/2001 9:42:17 AM PST by jgrubbs (jgrubbs@familyresources.net)
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To: jgrubbs
But, I was *assured* that COINTELPRO was dead.

Wait, someone's at the door...

2 posted on 11/20/2001 9:52:32 AM PST by gdani
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To: jgrubbs
Someone who says that driving is a “right,” and not a “privilege.”

Mostly it's liberals who say this. They get the gun ownership thing backward, too, saying that's a privilege and not a right.

3 posted on 11/20/2001 9:57:54 AM PST by Excuse_Me
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To: jgrubbs
I'll bet the brochure was authored under The Toon's administration.
4 posted on 11/20/2001 9:59:48 AM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: jgrubbs
Any individual who violates a law in an attempt to influence the government or other people in an attempt to produce some political or social change is a domestic terrorist.

And to think we have a holiday named after that arch-terrorist, Martin Luther King!

5 posted on 11/20/2001 10:00:07 AM PST by Hugin
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To: jgrubbs
Stealth times twice and codes done thrice
and that's what little cells are made of...
6 posted on 11/20/2001 10:06:53 AM PST by poetknowit
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To: jgrubbs; Nancie Drew; BlueDogDemo; Fred Mertz; golitely; LSJohn; Judge Parker; AtticusX...
How many members of FreeRepublic will now be added to the FBI's domestic terrorist list because of their complaints that the agencies in the Federal government, FBI and DOJ and CIA and BATF etc are not upholding the COnstitution in deference to the UN or world government?

Will Freeper BlueDogDemo and attorney Schippers and journalists James Patterson and Jayn Davis get put on the list for complaining to the public and to Congress and taking legal actions about federal government bureucrats who do not uphold the law or the COnstitution to protect citizzens from terrorism?? Oh, by the way, the FBI slipped up in their defintion( I am sure they will correct this soon)-you will be called a terrorist if you say that the FBI & DOJ are doing this to promote world government and to help the AntiChrist system.

It will be okay to be a peace loving Muslim (the FBI is already protecting the Muslim Hamas cells in OKC and in America), but if you are a Christian that complains about the unCOnstitutional AntiChrist system being set up in our government, you will soon be called a non-peace loving terrorist by the FBI & DOJ.

Ultimately, if you complain and warn about taking one of the ID's or marks on Christian Biblical grounds, you will be branded a terrrorist by the FBI & DOJ.

Will the FBI & DOJ brand me a terrorist for complaining about and predicting this now?? The FBI will become the gestapo for the AntiChrist system worldwide if it stays on its present course.

7 posted on 11/20/2001 10:28:47 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Alamo-Girl
Please see reply #7.
8 posted on 11/20/2001 10:29:43 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: jgrubbs
"Someone who makes numerous references to the U.S. Constitution."

Damm, I just did this on the thread on Bush and the Homeless. Someone please send me a Foil Hat.. ROTFLMAO!!!!

But to be serious for a min, If the Federal Government has now decided that the Rule of Law is not the Rule of Law (aka.. The Constitution), doesn't that make them guilty of “DOMESTIC TERRORISM”?

9 posted on 11/20/2001 10:31:31 AM PST by Refinersfire
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To: jgrubbs
This brochure was posted at Rense.com
10 posted on 11/20/2001 10:41:23 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: OKCSubmariner
Here's an old one that shows that for police purposes State Borders are meaningless. Most folks aren't aware of this. Another notch for the War on Drugs ----- Mo./Ark. Border Now 100+ Miles Wide

Combine the laws passed for the WOD and now Terrorism, and we resemble '39 Germany.............. scratch that, never said it, didn't mean it if I did say it, are we there yet?

11 posted on 11/20/2001 10:45:15 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: Refinersfire
But to be serious for a min, If the Federal Government has now decided that the Rule of Law is not the Rule of Law (aka.. The Constitution), doesn't that make them guilty of “DOMESTIC TERRORISM”?

They're not just *Domestic Terrorists* [and have been ever since their roles in the Kennedy and King murders and subsequent coverups and frameups] but are also just plain old garden-variety criminals- who very well may face death sentences for their criminal activities [if the law is to be applied fairly and equally to all, which is of course not usually the case for the secret police of a totalitarial regime:]

Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

--FBI Definition

U.S. Code, Title 18 [US Criminal Code] Section 241:
Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured -
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

U.S. Code, Title 18 [US Criminal Code] Section 242:
Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

12 posted on 11/20/2001 10:53:23 AM PST by archy
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To: jgrubbs
Police State; America now.
13 posted on 11/20/2001 10:56:49 AM PST by mbb bill
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To: OKCSubmariner
Judging by the way I and others are savaged as a "Bush Haters" or "America Haters" if we've the temerity to criticize or question the government here on Free Republic, I suspect there's plenty of Good Citizens who'll be only too happy to accomodate the feds with the Anonymous Tips necessary to round up those ripe for Justice courtesy of the PATRIOT Act.

Kinda ironic, isn't it, that it's genuine Patriots who've the potential to be taken down with measures named for them.

14 posted on 11/20/2001 10:59:36 AM PST by Askel5
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To: rdavis84
NDCORUP bump.
15 posted on 11/20/2001 11:00:45 AM PST by Askel5
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To: jgrubbs


16 posted on 11/20/2001 11:00:57 AM PST by Reardon Metal
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To: Reardon Metal
bump.

I love it when the facts of the matter are clearly shown, as you did with the scan of the offending document.

[Next will be the ludicrous claim that you made that doc in photoshop.]

Thanks for the post.

17 posted on 11/20/2001 11:41:00 AM PST by Triple
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To: Askel5
"Kinda ironic, isn't it, that it's genuine Patriots who've the potential to be taken down with measures named for them."

That seems to have been a long term method that's been used in this "Information Age". Most folks don't think for themselves, so when their alternate brain, the major medias, start labeling "Militias", "Patriots", "Right Wingers", "Ultra-Conservatives", etc. as less than "Moderates" and bad for the health of the Nation/World, they just naturally follow along.

What a crappy way to live, letting somebody else do your thinking and form your opinions.

18 posted on 11/20/2001 11:43:02 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: Triple; AtticusX; FormerLurker; Nita Nupress
"[Next will be the ludicrous claim that you made that doc in photoshop.]"

Yup! Probably won't be long before one of our resident shills (most of us know who it is!) posts a graphic of four of them, side by side, to prove this one was altered. If that does't do the trick, he'll post one purported to be written by Mickey Mouse, just to prove it could be altered, therefore, this one must be altered. (Tortured reasoning but we've all seen it before!) Yet another resident shill (we know who that one is, too, and yes, they do seem to work together) will come along with a faked sound analysis that somehow proves the above graphic is all wrong. Others, however, will just ignore the pamphlet and insist it's all an insane plot made up by Michael Rivero in the first place, and increase Reynolds Wrap stock values by prescribing tinfoil hats.

Did I leave anything out here?

19 posted on 11/20/2001 1:10:21 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: golitely
"Others, however, will just ignore the pamphlet and insist it's all an insane plot made up by Michael Rivero in the first place, and increase Reynolds Wrap stock values by prescribing tinfoil hats."

I KNEW IT !!! That's the reason.

BTW, somebody did some Nice Work making up that phony pamphlet :-)

20 posted on 11/20/2001 1:14:31 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: jgrubbs
Guess it's time to remove that pocket Constitution from my glove box.
21 posted on 11/20/2001 1:19:24 PM PST by copycat
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thanks for the heads up!
22 posted on 11/20/2001 1:49:18 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: rdavis84
Hmmm...so people who homeschool without registering or who refuse vaccination might be considered domestic terrorists??? Wanna hear something else funny...I was thinking of joining the militia...Rofl!
23 posted on 11/20/2001 2:39:14 PM PST by Preech1
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To: Preech1
I'm in the hills in Arkansas. Most of the 'natives' here aren't real fond of the fedgov to start with, but some extra pushing by them is liable to get mean pretty quick.

There's an area fenced in with the upper runs of barbed wire facing in near here. About 25-30 acres with a very servicable incinerator left over from some superfund cleanup. Railspur beside it's in new condition. Wonder what the plan is? :-)

24 posted on 11/20/2001 3:07:11 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: OKCSubmariner
"The FBI will become the gestapo for the AntiChrist system worldwide if it stays on its present course.

Nah! We've just elected a President who "strongly" believes in "smaller" government and the Constitution and the individual freedoms and liberties it guarantees......

Darn! Where did I put the rest of that LSD?

25 posted on 11/20/2001 3:09:11 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: jgrubbs
You remove campaign yard signs erected by a politician you don’t support

Wow. We get SO bent out of shape when the liberals do this to us, but if WE do it, why, It's For The Cause And Thus It's OK.

28 posted on 11/20/2001 3:34:18 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: ratcat
"Sounds like a Patriot Welcoming Center."

It might be a hoot to paint up a sign with that on it and hang it on the fence. :-)

I'm NOT going to do it. I'm NOT going to do it............

Say, do you think they passed a Law against that?

I'm NOT goin............

29 posted on 11/20/2001 3:39:32 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: OKCSubmariner
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if any or all of what you asked about was done. When you have people frequenting the premier conservative website online who can't even discuss the Constitution intelligently, it makes you wonder just who is going to preserve our form of government.

The government officials have proven that they have no intention of keeping our republican form of government. Liberals and communists are openly dedicated to subverting our system of government. Meanwhile, those who call themselves "conservatives" because they belong to a party which gives lip service to conservative values, are applauding the subversion of our form of government by their party memebers in office.

I wonder if those of us who respect and value the form of government laid out in the Constitution amount to as many people as those who fought the war of independence. I hope we do, or it'll be a hard thing, preserving what was handed down to us.

30 posted on 11/20/2001 4:40:03 PM PST by Twodees
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To: OKCSubmariner
I doubt it. This is the same website that discusses the newsworthiness of Victoria's Secret, Recipes, Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez and what Rush and Drudge just said.

And even if they could get by the fluff they would have to laugh at the backbiting and petty bickering.

31 posted on 11/20/2001 6:38:24 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: copycat
"Guess it's time to remove that pocket Constitution from my glove box."

To borrow a line from the past and to insert a word:

When they remove the "Constitution" from my cold dead hands....

32 posted on 11/20/2001 7:31:54 PM PST by Refinersfire
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To: archy
Can you freepmail me that post in full and what else you have on that subject?
33 posted on 11/20/2001 7:33:36 PM PST by Refinersfire
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To: copycat
I have two of those pocket constitutions on my computer desk in plain sight. Now what do I do?

Maybe they will be worth something when the police inaugurate their annual 'constitution buy back month' where we can all sell our constitutions to the government and get them off the streets. You never know when one will fall into the wrong hands and cause harm.

34 posted on 11/20/2001 7:46:52 PM PST by jmp702
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To: OKCSubmariner
How many members of FreeRepublic will now be added to the FBI's domestic terrorist list because of their complaints that the agencies in the Federal government, FBI and DOJ and CIA and BATF etc are not upholding the COnstitution in deference to the UN or world government?

Lots.

35 posted on 11/20/2001 9:26:23 PM PST by Plummz
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To: Plummz
Lots.
And there are no visiting angels that are going to tell anyone to leave. Besides, where would one go?
I know, I know...it was Lot, no "s", but it made me laugh when I thought of it.
36 posted on 11/20/2001 9:46:36 PM PST by philman_36
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To: jgrubbs
Here is a great thread about this.

In Phoenix, We're Terrorists!

Verax called and confirmed this.

37 posted on 11/20/2001 9:47:27 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Native American Female Vet
Mornin'.

Thank you for the Phoenix link.

38 posted on 11/20/2001 9:53:59 PM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
Your welcome
39 posted on 11/20/2001 10:00:42 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Preech1
Funny you should mention that, as my spousal unit once made an ill-fated call to the dial a nurse, in which she let slip that our children had not had all their vaccinations.
The person on the other end launched into a long diatribe that ended "I bet you probably home-school, too."
At this point, said spousal unit hung up, after saying, "as a matter of fact..." We were nervous for several days, with appriate mapping and regrouping strategies in place.
40 posted on 11/20/2001 11:28:21 PM PST by Apogee
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To: Native American Female Vet
I also called to check on it, using the FBI number listed. The switchboard operator said that it had been distributed to police departments. I got the impression I was not the first person to call asking about it. Anyway, it is legitimate, not a photoshop hoax.
41 posted on 11/20/2001 11:43:28 PM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Reardon Metal; CommiesOut
You might be a domestic terrorist-
*If you refer to or defend the constitution
*If you identify yourself as a christian
*If you are white

I wonder who the behind the scenes 'authors' are?

42 posted on 11/21/2001 4:51:53 AM PST by jmp702
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To: jmp702; madrussian; malarski; Askel5; GROUCHOTWO; Zviadist; kristinn; Free the USA...
Hahaha!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
200 years, eh?
43 posted on 11/21/2001 7:24:45 AM PST by CommiesOut
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To: tonycavanagh
Uh oh, they just noticed...
44 posted on 11/21/2001 7:27:39 AM PST by CommiesOut
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To: CommiesOut
Just noticed the Constitution's now good only for rooting out possibly dangerous characters with wacked notions of Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness?
45 posted on 11/21/2001 7:48:01 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
I love the smell of powder blue leather boots on my neck in the morning.
46 posted on 11/21/2001 7:52:35 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: Askel5
I don't care. I made me a "I'm a Sheeple" button.
Watching all these Rushes is like reading some old manual.
All you need is to live long enough to see it twice, 3 times...
47 posted on 11/21/2001 7:56:47 AM PST by CommiesOut
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To: CommiesOut
I don't care. I made me a "I'm a Sheeple" button.

Hey ... great idea. That could be useful for getting through security without be wanded and having to take off my shoes to fly from KCI to New Orleans.

I'll work on keeping my head bowed as well.

48 posted on 11/21/2001 8:00:14 AM PST by Askel5
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To: OKCSubmariner
BTTT
49 posted on 11/21/2001 8:06:57 AM PST by Marianne
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To: Askel5
Herald stuff
50 posted on 11/21/2001 8:13:00 AM PST by CommiesOut
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