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Harry Potter and The Lost Generations; Former New Ager Explains Potter Danger.
The Cross and the Veil ^ | Nov, 2001 | Clare McGrath Merkle

Posted on 11/21/2001 8:13:35 AM PST by marshmallow

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To: marshmallow
However, seeing how much it irritates the shills means I'll probably make a point of digging up more on the subject.

"Irritates", hardly. More like "perpetually amuses", so by all means continue.

61 posted on 11/21/2001 9:42:11 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: jdege
I find it fascinating that we've seen such a surge in Manicheanism in the evangelical church.

Orthodox Christianity rejected it as a heresy 1700 years ago.

It was a Persian idea - influenced by Zoroastrianism - and it is in direct conflict with the fundamental principles of Christianity.

Are you getting paid extra for using big (i.e., pretentious) words?

Just wondering...

62 posted on 11/21/2001 9:42:55 PM PST by Exigence
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To: CraigH
I suspect that most children, after an afternoon of trying to get the broom to jump off the floor, will come to the same conclusion I did.

ROFL

Of course, most children will probably be smart enough to realize it won't work before even trying.

I also suspect that most children, after watching a Road Runner cartoon, don't think you really can run for several paces in mid-air before falling. They probably also don't believe you can be blown up, smashed, accordioned, and so on like the poor coyote and keep coming back for me. Plus, my kiddos are even bright enough to know they can't fly like Superman, swim like Aquaman, or climb like Spiderman. Amazing.

63 posted on 11/21/2001 9:50:05 PM PST by Exigence
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To: marshmallow
Of course the kids in the back of the bus will act up, throw spitballs and giggle...

The rest of us appreciate the article --- it was a good one...

64 posted on 11/21/2001 9:52:52 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: allend
...You're in for a lot of wisecracks by a bunch of wise*asses...

"Wise*sses"??

Don't you mean adolescent pea-brains?

65 posted on 11/21/2001 9:58:39 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: jlogajan
Especially the part where it commands us to go out and kill homosexuals.

Chapter? Verse? Context?

66 posted on 11/21/2001 10:16:09 PM PST by skr
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To: marshmallow
and on the Isle of Mona the druids were ranged in order with hands lifted up invoking the Gods and pouring forth horrible imprecations causing a temporary pattern interrupt from the eccentric performance until Paulus Suetonius gave an inspiring Patton type speech swept forth with his legion and slaughtered the lot....set 'pinkie' on stun just doesn't cut it im afraid.
67 posted on 11/21/2001 10:22:18 PM PST by Governor StrangeReno
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To: marshmallow
Wonder what kind of sick parents would also want their kids to have grand illusions in their heads of nearly headless nick and his pals playing polo with their heads? And the cutting off of a hand with blood dripping from it as it thrown into the kettle as a sacrifice so that the evil spirit can take on a body! And then there is that 11-year-old that becomes possessed and for some reason is killing cats. Gee there is nothing wrong with the books. Just the parents and people that have become so desensitized that they will be glad to have a mark stuck on their kids forehead or hand. Hey if they got the mark on their forehead then they could be just like Harry Potter!!! MCD
68 posted on 11/21/2001 10:27:53 PM PST by MSCASEY
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To: 1Peter2:16
Good point. But people seem to prefer to polarize on every subject rather than actually discuss the information, especially when the author is well-grounded in the subject matter. I enjoy fantasy, but wizardry and witchcraft are real. I noticed the results of HP's popularity (along with the TV series Charmed, I suppose) when I walked into a bookstore and saw that they were promoting their "magick" books, including books of spells and the like. And it was directed at teens and younger, which concerns me greatly. I've listened to former witches and warlocks explain the attraction of the Craft and they say it's all about power and the attainment of more of the same.
69 posted on 11/21/2001 10:45:17 PM PST by skr
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To: MSCASEY
All good points. And don't forget:
- killing child-like mandrakes for ingredients(II)
- giving potions (drugs) secretly to others (Crabbe,Goyle/II)
- taking potions (drugs) to gain knowledge(Potter,Weasley/II)
- running away as solution (Potter/III)
- graphic torture of innocents for sport (Quidditch World Cup/IV)
- gratuitous murder (the caretaker/IV)

Yes, I have read them all - twice. And enjoyed them immensely. But nevertheless, their casual moral structure and increasingly dark tone make me doubt the author's benign intentions. She promises that subsequent books will be even darker, because she has a "moral obligation" to show the true face of evil. Adult fare--certainly. But increasingly inappropriate for children.

MI
70 posted on 11/21/2001 11:33:33 PM PST by My Identity
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To: marshmallow
We still don't understand that our children live in a reality steeped in violence, sex and the occult

Yeah, how come the young have all the fun? I demand government subsidized violence, sex and the occult for the over-50s.

71 posted on 11/21/2001 11:46:14 PM PST by John Locke
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To: halflion
Why not soar with them by reading about the flying saints, like Teresa of Avila or Teresita de los Andes? Why not bilocate with them on the spiritual missions of Padre Pio or St. Faustina? Why not read to them about crippled children who run at Lourdes or pray with them fantastically efficacious prayers that heal and deliver?

Why not? Because these things are fairy tales, just as much as the fantasies in the Potter books. To offer children fairy tales as entertainment, making it quite clear they are fiction, is fun and harmless.

But to proffer children fairy tales as if they were fact, with the clear implication that if they don't believe this rubbish they are bad children and God won't love them - that is one of the most vicious and evil forms of abuse that can be inflicted on the mind of a young child.

72 posted on 11/22/2001 12:01:36 AM PST by John Locke
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To: John Locke
Of course, the most vicious of all child abuse is that of denying the existence of God, and keeping that child in a darkness not only in this lifetime, but sentencing him/her to an eternity separated from God, in hell.
73 posted on 11/22/2001 1:57:49 AM PST by 1Peter2:16
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To: marshmallow
We walk on a real world soil covered with the blood of millions and millions of aborted children, the ultimate victims of attachment disorder. And yet we remain in consummate denial, remaining addicted to a violent media, occult gaming and books like Harry Potter.

The irresponsible still do not make this connection, do they.

74 posted on 11/22/2001 2:05:59 AM PST by 1Peter2:16
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To: skr
Especially the part where it commands us to go out and kill homosexuals.

Chapter? Verse? Context?


Only because you asked so nicely...

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.--Lev.18:22

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.-- Lev.20:13.

King James Bible. I've been told the "abomination" parts don't actually show up in the original texts, and were added after the fact by King James' transcribers intentionally, much in the same way the so-called "Crucifixion Psalm" was fabricated.

This is also the same part of the Bible that devotes a whole chapter (Lev. 15) to dealing with what happens when a woman menstrates. Or not eating four-legged insects

For the future, might I suggest you invest in a computer-searchable Bible for your own research purposes?
75 posted on 11/22/2001 2:28:22 AM PST by WyldKard
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To: marshmallow
Well written.
76 posted on 11/22/2001 2:30:59 AM PST by exnavy
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To: marshmallow; jjbrouwer; WyldKard; MadIvan; SunnyUsa; Da_Shrimp
Ok that’s it we have had Ex witches telling us about the good times they had when they were younger, ex sex maniacs telling us about there life of degradation, ex drug takers and ex drinkers.

A whole raft of people who spent there youth getting up to all sorts of high jinks and then stopping as they get older and then making money from interviews and books and lecture tours.

Right its my turn, ex boring man warns of the dangers of not taking drugs , not rogering everyone you can get hold of as if your life depends on it, not indulging in satanic witches orgy and every other high sort of living. Because by not doing these things you don’t end up with a lucrative deal making fat wads of cash in your later life, talking about what a great time you had while warning of the pitfalls that you were clever enough to avoid.

End of rant

Cheers Tony

77 posted on 11/22/2001 3:08:10 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh; harry_potter; marshmallow; Aquinasfan; Dr. Eckleburg
Right its my turn, ex boring man warns of the dangers of not taking drugs , not rogering everyone you can get hold of as if your life depends on it, not indulging in satanic witches orgy and every other high sort of living.

A timely warning, Tony. And I am sure our American friends will applaud you!
78 posted on 11/22/2001 3:12:11 AM PST by jjbrouwer
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To: jjbrouwer
Too right I am fed up of these people parading up and down telling us of the great times they had as a youngster. It makes me feel that I wasted my youth

Cheers Tony

79 posted on 11/22/2001 3:15:50 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: My Identity
You are truely a scholar of the Potter Testament. Quidditch is a difficult game to follow though.
80 posted on 11/22/2001 3:21:44 AM PST by jjbrouwer
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