Skip to comments.Formatting Hard Drive with Win2000Pro Installed
Posted on 11/21/2001 9:20:27 PM PST by danmar
I usually do not post this type of stuff, but I am in need of some expert advise in this field and in return I will tell you how to fix your water pump on your car, when it starts leaking, or anything cars for that matter.(just ask the expert, 24 years in the car business and counting).
My dilema is as follows:I was running Win98 until it became very unstable(had to reboot almost every two hours)and I decided to install Win2000Pro. So I did just that, but come to find out that the new OS was installed right on top of my existing OS.At the same time my old keyboard went south, so I replaced it with a new one(Logitech with all the doodahhs)and lo'and behold the 2000 went gaga.(The machine started to reboot itself with no stopping in sight).
So I figured I have to format my hard drive and start a new.Come to find out that the system was formatting only the remaining space not the whole hard drive. So out of 10G hard drive, it showed, I have only 1.8G hard drive, because I have installed three 2000's on top of each other.
To make a long story short, I need advice as to how to format my hard drive(i bought some hard drive managing software, but they can not cut the 2000). I know for a fact that on this forum are some pretty sharp tacks, regarding computer affairs and this is the reason I am posting this vanity(I am just about to pull whatever hair is left on my head in my frustration).If anyone gets offended by this posting, I do appologise for the bandwidh waste.
Depending on what you mean by this, I would say the problem is your keyboard, or it is plugged in wrong.
A keyboard problem during boot can cause a reboot.
The CD did work, but to do anything else with it, that was my problem. You're right, the CD did read, but all the cd read/write stuff is what died, I should have thought that through before I answered! :-)
When you crash (and you will) windows won`t be able to fix it.I found this out the hard way.
I called product support(Partition Magic) and they said format and reinstall.
Which I did, minus Partition Magic.
I have built several machines and ran into a simular problem. I even thought that I lost the partition that I was installing into. I also tried partition magic to delete the old partition and install from scratch, but WIN2K knew what it origionally tried to install into and went ahead and loaded into that partition even though it doesn't show up with FDISK or anything else.
It seems that WIN2k somehow knows what it tried to install into and protects that partition from anything elses attempts to change it.
In this regard, if you have Windows 2000 already installed, create a Windows 2000 bootdisk and copy fdisk.exe and format.com onto the disk so that you can reformat your entire drive. Then reinstall Windows 2000. Once you have done this, I think Windows 2000 has a partition manager and boot program that should allow you to install multiple Windows OS' so that you can reinstall your Win98 OS. If you can't find it, there is a free partition manager called Ranish Partition Manger that will enable you to partition your hard drive with multiple OS's on it. Once a new partition has been created and another OS installed, Windows 2000 should allow you to boot to either OS. If not, you can either get a copy of BootMagic (which comes with Partition Magic and which works very well) or you can get a freeware boot manager. I think BootIt has one, but I am not sure on this.
I went on the net and searched until I found a driver that would work.
Now it`s a CDRW again.
I figured a Mandrake user would speak up if I was wrong :)
Win2k has its uses. I have one machine for Win2k/Win98 (for work/games) and one with RH 7.2 (like I said I worked for them and it is the one I'm most familiar with) for serious stuff.
Win XP is just a glorified version of W2K, except it has a big downside with the product activation feature. I've been using W2K on 3 home computers for almost 2 years now and it's by far the best MS operating system for the home or anywhere else, unless you are into computer games.
W2K should run fine on any computer that can run XP.
When you installed Windows 2000, you asked installer to install Windows on Win NT file system partition. Installer created Win NT partition that was about 90% the available size. Drive C: is small and is used only to do the initial boot. Win NT partition is hidden from DOS and can't be accessed from DOS.
This is what you should do.
0-BACK UP ALL YOUR DATA!!! THE FOLLOWING PROCESS DESTROYS ALL THE DATA ON THE DISK!!!
1-make a Windows startup floppy disk. I don't remember how to do it under Windows 2000 but under Win 98 go to the control panel, Add/Remove programs, Startup Disk.
2-get Partition Magic. It costs $60. It's NOT that expensive considering that this is A GREAT PRODUCT. Don't install Partition Magic on your hard drive. Make Partition Magic bootable disks. Instruction tells you how to do it.
3-Boot with Partition Magic disks and use partition magic to delete ALL PARTITIONS. Then make one big FAT32 partition that fills the entire hard disk.
4-boot with Windows startup floppy and FORMAT C: 5-remove floppy and insert Windows 2000 CD and start the PC. On MOST PC's CD drive is bootable. You might want to make sure of that first before you do anything. When the Win 2000 CD boots, follow the prompts to do a CLEAN INSTALL. I also recommend that you keep your hard drive in FAT32 format.
6-Windows 2000 has a vast library of drivers and Windows installer should install them. However, there is a chance that Windows 2000 will lack the driver you need for your modem, sound card, graphics card, etc. You might have to locate them and install them separately. If your PC is a well known brand name like HP, SONY, Compaq, visit them on the web and download the drivers.
7-Restore your data.
Do you have to be so obnoxious?
The big problem with killing NTFS partitions involved OS/2 and HPFS partitions - if the HPFS partition was an extended partition, then the old MSDOS 6.22 FDISK would balk at killing it. I don't know of any problem with killing primary NTFS partitions.
If the computer had been running Win98, and the partition was bigger than 2GB, then it was a FAT32 partition. The biggest problem here will be your advice to boot from a floppy - an awful lot of computers have been sold in the last few years that didn't have any boot disks included with them. A few notes:
0) BACK UP ANY FILES YOU CARE ABOUT!!!WARNING#1: Windows 2000 Professional installations tend to give the group "Everyone" the "Full Access" permission to your entire hard drive. If you want to have any security at all (and that's the only reason people choose NTFS over the FATs), then you must remove that permission and replace it with something like "Administrators" and "Full Access". Once you get Windows 2000 up and running, you can see and alter these permissions by opening Windows Explorer (Start | Run | explorer.exe), right-clicking on your C: drive, scrolling to Properties, and choosing the Security tab. Of course, none of this does any good if you open email or surf the net when you are logged on as the Administrator. Create an everyday user account, and use that account for surfing the web and opening email. (PS: Here's another good trick: Rename the Administrator account using Start | Programs | Administrative Tools | Computer Management | Computer Management (Local) | System Tools | Local Users and Groups | Users, right-clicking on Administrator, and choosing Rename. If you do this, then to break into your system, a hacker must not only guess the Administrator's password, but he also has to guess the new name of the Administrator.)
1) If you want a full 10GB partition, then the original formatting will have to be FAT32, and this will require a Win98 boot floppy - NOT an MSDOS 6.22 boot floppy. If you have only an MSDOS 6.22 boot floppy, then you will only be able to create a 2GB FAT16 partition.
2) Boot to your old Win98 boot floppy, create your partition, format your partition, get enough of an operating system up and running so that you have CD-ROM support, with, say, your hard drive as C: and your CD-ROM drive as D:, then do the following:a) At a DOS prompt, create a C:\i386 directory:C:>md i386b) Place the Windows 2000 CD-ROM in the CD-ROM drive, and copy the contents of its i386 directory to your hard drive:C:\i386>xcopy.exe D:\i386\*.* /s /ec) Remove the CD-ROM from your CD-ROM drive, and install Windows 2000 from your hard drive, using the WINNT.EXE installation program:C:\i386>winnt.exeIf you want an NTFS partition, then choose to convert to NTFS during the installation procedure.
WARNING#2: Microsoft has seen some problems with converting large FAT32 partitions to NTFS; see e.g. Cannot Convert FAT32 to NTFS with IDE Drive Larger Than 20 GB
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