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Phyllis Schlafly: Are Mexican Immigrants Assimilating Or Invading?
Too Good Reports ^ | December 2, 2001 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 11/30/2001 7:47:46 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen

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1 posted on 11/30/2001 7:47:46 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
The only reason we learned about this Mexican plan is that one school in Santa Ana, California, decided to sell the books at a book fair and the local Hispanics kicked up a fuss about it.

Yeah, right. I'm sure Mexico came up with this "plan" involving several million people and the only way we found out about it was through the "fortuitous" discovery of a book at a Santa Ana bookfair. What a load of complete unadulterated horsebleep.

2 posted on 11/30/2001 8:07:55 AM PST by mvscal
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To: Stand Watch Listen
This is an invasion although done indirectly. If you live in N. Dakoata or the likes you probably can not understand the problems the boarder states are having but they will be on your doorstep in the future also. I consider this the biggest problem America faces. I agree with Michael Savage (BOARDERS-LANGUAGE-CULTURE) and it's being ripped out from us. One day just like this terrorist agenda it WILL explode but in our backyards & you will have little defense against it.
3 posted on 11/30/2001 8:12:15 AM PST by Digger
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To: Digger
KNOW-NOTHING MOVEMENT

Know-Nothing Movement, a nativist political movement in the United States in the 1850's. It was organized to oppose the great wave of immigrants who entered the United States after 1846. Know-Nothings claimed that the immigrants—who were principally Irish and Roman Catholic threatened to destroy the American experiment. The Roman Catholic church, they charged, was subservient to a foreign prince (the pope), it was growing in power, and it potentially could exert political control over a large group of people. Such nativist sentiments had long existed among many Americans, but they had never before been expressed in such powerful form.

In several Northern states as early as the 1840's there were local nativist parties that drew support from the DEMOCRATIC and WHIG parties. By the early 1850's there was a trend to organize nationally against the presumed immigrant threat. The old parties, the nativists said, had not confronted the danger. The Democrats, it was charged, were supported by the aliens; the party needed their votes and catered to their whims. The Whigs appeared helpless before them.

Originally, nativist party members had worked through a number of secret societies, clandestinely throwing their support on election day with powerful effect to sympathetic candidates. Saying that they knew nothing about such activities, the nativists wreaked havoc with their votes in 1854 in the existing party system. They won sweeping victories at the state and congressional levels. They attracted many Northern Whigs to their point of view along with an important number of Democrats. Southern Whigs also joined because of growing sectional tensions caused by the reintroduction of the slavery issue into national politics in 1854. For a time it seemed as if the Know-Nothings (officially the AMERICAN PARTY) would be the main opposition party in the United States. Publicly backing Millard FILLMORE as a presidential candidate in 1856, they won more than 21% of the popular vote and eight ELECTORAL votes.

The Know-Nothings wanted to use government power to preserve their vision of a particular kind of Anglo-Saxon Protestant society. Their state and national platforms demanded that immigration be limited, that politics be “purified” by limiting officeholding to native-born Americans, and that a 21-year wait be imposed before an immigrant could become a citizen and vote. They also sought to limit the sale of liquor, to restrict public-school teaching to Protestants, and to have the Protestant version of the Bible read daily in classrooms. Despite their strength and appeal, the Know-Nothings were already in decline as a national party by 1856. Beset by differences over the slavery issue, many members joined the REPUBLICAN PARTY, which seemed sympathetic to much of their nativism and offered additional appeals on other important issues. Know-Nothing parties remained strong in a number of Northern states in the late 1850's, but the party was spent as a national force before the election of 1860.

The Know-Nothing movement illustrated two things: a persistent ethnoreligious hostility in American life that often intruded into politics and the potentiality for political disruption when existing parties fail to deal adequately with volatile social and political tensions. Although the movement quickly lost out to the Republicans, its ideas did not, and they formed one aspect of the Republican appeal for more than a generation to come.

Joel H. Silbey Cornell University

You people were dead wrong in 1850 and you're still wrong 150 years later.

4 posted on 11/30/2001 8:27:06 AM PST by mvscal
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Invading?

More accurately, they are colonizing territory they believe is theirs.

5 posted on 11/30/2001 8:41:01 AM PST by SocialMeltdown
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To: mvscal
"The Know-Nothing movement illustrated two things: a persistent ethnoreligious hostility in American life that often intruded into politics and the potentiality for political disruption when existing parties fail to deal adequately with volatile social and political tensions."

How long have you been planning that post?
Waiting for the right moment?

Actually, we DO have it right by your own quotation - given the flood tide of Mexican-ness (immigrants, legal and illegal, dragging all the baggage of their other citizenship with them) and the events of 9/11 Americans have every right to "deal adequately with the volatile social and political tensions" thus created.

And a hell of a lot of us want those tensions sent back from whence they came.
They can haul the books and the flags they so love to wave in place of the US flag along with them.

6 posted on 11/30/2001 8:45:08 AM PST by norton
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To: norton
You are correct.

The Irish and European Catholics brought with them European culture and values.

Mexicans bring neither.

7 posted on 11/30/2001 8:51:03 AM PST by SocialMeltdown
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Santa Ana, California has turned into a Tijuana, Mexico clone. You won't find many people speaking English there. Mexican flags are flown daily. Drive through there at your own risk, especially at night.
8 posted on 11/30/2001 9:00:36 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: norton
Every time a new wave of immigration hits America, ignorant and frightened racists such as yourself come out of the woodwork to spew your Chicken Little, Sky is Falling pronouncements of doom, gloom and the end of everything American. It happened with the Irish. It happened with the Germans. It happened with the Polish and the Italians. It happened with the Chinese. Now it's happening with the Mexicans.

If you wish to persist with a politcal philosophy that was exposed and discredited over 100 years ago, be my guest. Anyone who can fire more than 3 brain cells at once is mocking you.

9 posted on 11/30/2001 9:04:47 AM PST by mvscal
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To: SocialMeltdown; norton
Cultures have been mixing and assimilating in the Southwest since long before the U.S. or Mexico existed. And idiots like you two have been imagining the worst for just as long.
10 posted on 11/30/2001 9:05:25 AM PST by FreeLibertarian
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To: mvscal
You people ....

????....hmmmmmm...sounds like a start to profiling.

....when existing parties fail to deal adequately with volatile social and political tensions.

Hmmm... seems many 'illegals' contribute mightedly to a present 'volatile social and political tensions'.

My ancestors were immigrants. They worked, they saved, they cherished family. They learned the language, the laws, the customs. The learned the history of this great nation and the sacrifices of its citizens. They assimulated into the great American melting pot, while still celebrating their unique traditions (within their own communities and not on the community at large). Political correctness was not fostered on the general populace.

Welfare/government entitlements were not an option, therefore not an inticement to migrate. 'Uncle Sugar Daddy' did not exist as we know it today.

Freedom for one's destiny was their goal. Freedom to succeed, freedom to fail. The choice was theirs and their 'families'.

11 posted on 11/30/2001 9:05:50 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: mvscal
INVADING !!!!
12 posted on 11/30/2001 9:06:04 AM PST by clamper1797
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To: Stand Watch Listen
inticement=enticement
13 posted on 11/30/2001 9:08:16 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: SocialMeltdown
The Irish and European Catholics brought with them European culture and values. Mexicans bring neither.

Oh really? I'm pretty sure they speak SPANISH and are CATHOLICS for the most part. I guess you probably wouldn't want facts to get in the way of an otherwise solidly racist screed, now would you?

14 posted on 11/30/2001 9:11:14 AM PST by mvscal
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To: janetgreen
Santa Ana, California has turned into a Tijuana, Mexico clone. You won't find many people speaking English there. Mexican flags are flown daily. Drive through there at your own risk, especially at night.

Hmm. Really? I grew up in Tustin right next door to Santa Ana and I've been working in Santa Ana for over two years now and I've never had so much as a hint of a problem.

And yet another racist lie goes up in smoke. This is starting to get monotonous.

15 posted on 11/30/2001 9:16:47 AM PST by mvscal
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To: janetgreen
Yes, first they rush to flee their failing culture and then they simply reproduce it in their new homeland.

We don't need such foolishness.

16 posted on 11/30/2001 9:17:58 AM PST by SocialMeltdown
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To: SocialMeltdown
We don't need such foolishness.

If you don't like America, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. You would probably be more comfortable in North Korea or China.

17 posted on 11/30/2001 9:27:58 AM PST by mvscal
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To: mvscal
I grew up in Tustin right next door to Santa Ana and I've been working in Santa Ana for over two years now and I've never had so much as a hint of a problem.

What part of Santa Ana, O enlightened and non-racist one? And what do you consider a "problem"? Obviously not the fact that folks are speaking Spanish instead of English and flying Mexican flags instead of American ones, right? BTW, did you ever consider that you might be getting tiresome too, O politically correct one?

18 posted on 11/30/2001 9:44:58 AM PST by Map Kernow
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To: mvscal
The Mafioso speak Italian and are Catholic, not that I'd welcome them here.

The government doesn't like Anglo-Saxon and European republicans as they tend to resent government. It's decided it needs a new citizenry-- competing groups of social democrats--so it has set about importing them.

19 posted on 11/30/2001 9:50:53 AM PST by SteamshipTime
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To: mvscal
I didn't see these groups (Germans, Irish,etc) coming here ILLEGALLY. When they came they learned the language, accepted the culture & ASSIMILATED. And they did NOT put America down. But this isn't their fault that they came to a region for opportunity (whether raising their standards of living or raising havock). It is our government for allowing it & GW is as guilty as anyone for this, especially with just this week of allowing Mexican trucks to travel throughout America under NAFTA.
20 posted on 11/30/2001 9:53:24 AM PST by Digger
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To: Map Kernow
I would think a true, blue "patriot" such as yourself would support bedrock American values. Then again you aren't a patriot and you really aren't much of an American either.
21 posted on 11/30/2001 9:57:47 AM PST by mvscal
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To: Digger
Evidence please. Specifically, immigration laws and statistics for legal and illegal immigration in the 1850's.

I'll be in the corner holding my breath.

22 posted on 11/30/2001 10:02:59 AM PST by mvscal
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Some Mexicans use the term "reconquista," which is Spanish for reconquest, to describe their desire to see California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas acquired by Mexico and named the new country of Aztlan. They are teaching their youth that the United States "stole" those areas from Mexico and that they should be "returned."

There might still be time to give Kosovo back to its rightful owners BEFORE the UN starts demanding that we hand half of Florida, Texas, and California over to Mexico on this same stupid basis.

23 posted on 11/30/2001 10:03:59 AM PST by medved
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Yikes did it again...assimulated=assimilated
24 posted on 11/30/2001 10:12:57 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: mvscal
"I guess you wouldn't want facts to get in the way..."

Here are some facts: UNLIKE immigrants of the past, the "new" American "immigrant" barge through our borders UNINVITED, invade our country ILEGALLY, demand "rights" and resources afforded as an actual American citizen, pledge NO allegiance to the United States of America.

Just why the h*ll should we allow THEM circumvent U.S. law?

But according you, anarchy is perhaps an option?

25 posted on 11/30/2001 10:25:48 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Your personal opinion, apparent difficulty with your caps lock key and spittle on your monitor do not make a factual argument. I'm still waiting for any type of evidence that would suggest that Mexican immigration is any different from any other past wave of immigration.

History has been making fools of people like you for over 150 years.

26 posted on 11/30/2001 10:35:55 AM PST by mvscal
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To: mvscal
Very witty. Perhaps a gig in the Catskills in more your calling.

I'm still waiting for any type of evidence that would suggest that Mexican immigration is any different than any other past wave of immigration.

Either comprehending the English language is too much a strain on your brain cells, OR perhaps the "caps lock key" in bold did not register with your retina.

An eye exam is recommended -- if that still doesn't work, please have an amigo read Ms. Schlafy's article to you, a history of U.S. immigration, AND a peak at the U.S. Constitution....Still not too late for you to learn SOMETHING.

27 posted on 11/30/2001 10:57:39 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
I've been studying American History for 23 years. I hold a BA in History from UT Austin. My grandfather was a wetback who didn't speak a lick of English. 60 years later his son and grandson are college grads living comfortable upper middle class lives. My father used an ROTC scholarship to pay his way through school and served in the US Army for nearly 20 years. I used the Army College Fund to pay for the last year of my school. I served one 4 year term with the 1st Cavalry Division, including service in the Gulf War and a subsequent deployment to Kuwait. So don't tell me Mexicans don't assimilate and don't work. Hell, I don't even speak Spanish.

Your opinions are factually incorrect, racist, disgusting and decidedly un-American. You would be well advised to crack a book some day and pause just for second to remember who you are and where you come from. Mexicans do all the shitty jobs that natives don't want to do. Just like the Irish, Chinese, Italians etc. did before them. Mexicans have come to this country for the all same reasons as our ancestors.

28 posted on 11/30/2001 11:15:09 AM PST by mvscal
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Perhaps this is a GOOD thing. If they declare independence, and we have to go in there and kick out or shoot all of the reconquistas, GOOD! We not only elimimate the rabble-rousers, but we can deport all illegal Mexicans, and effectively end the issue of immigration. Dopey W. and all the other "compassionate Conservatives" will finally give up on hispanics and latinos, and we can start building that 50-foot high wall across the border.

If the wall is going to be too much of a problem, line the border with nuclear waste.

29 posted on 11/30/2001 11:19:56 AM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: mvscal
My but you are a nasty one, aren't you, labeling everyone as 'racist', and gee, you've been a member for a whole 30 days, I guess we must listen to you!

What part of 'legal immigration' don't you understand? Or should I type that question in your native language?

30 posted on 11/30/2001 11:20:15 AM PST by citizen
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To: mvscal
I'll say it again. 'Legal immigration'......
31 posted on 11/30/2001 11:22:01 AM PST by citizen
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To: mvscal

...ignorant and frightened racists such as yourself

9 posted on 11/30/01 10:05 AM Pacific by mvscal

Abuse reported.

32 posted on 11/30/2001 11:37:27 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Oh, the pretend soldier is back. Yeah, I guess the truth would be abusive on this forum.
34 posted on 11/30/2001 11:40:41 AM PST by mvscal
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To: Joseph Warren
He's a no-class act, that's for sure. The "F-word" is what he uses for ideas.
38 posted on 11/30/2001 11:48:45 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Stalking is an abuse also. Which I of course reported. Maybe if you would stop lying about your military service, people would stop calling you out for it. Just a little food for thought Mr. Wannabe.
39 posted on 11/30/2001 11:49:51 AM PST by mvscal
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To: mvscal
Hey, thanks for bumping the thread.....folks here really need to read this article and also listen to you spew your venom and wake up to the fact that we need serious border control.

I'll say it again, I am FOR the same LEGAL immigration we have had for hundreds of years. I do not favor the types that sneak in, cover a convenience store parking lot like locusts and give you the finger if you even look in their direction.

BTW, JimRob dislikes profanity being used in his house, so do respect his wishes.

42 posted on 11/30/2001 11:53:05 AM PST by citizen
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To: mvscal
Please summarize any "stalking" performed on you.

You seem to be rather paranoid, (besides enjoying the use of the "f-word" and disgusting made up from whole cloth personal attacks in place of arguement.)

43 posted on 11/30/2001 11:54:22 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: citizen
BTW, JimRob dislikes profanity being used in his house, so do respect his wishes.

Allegedly he doesn't like racists either. So, likewise to you.

44 posted on 11/30/2001 11:55:01 AM PST by mvscal
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To: FreeLibertarian
What part of the moon are you living on? Stick to working on legalizing pot or whatever nonsense Lib's work on but stay out of the immigration debate because you don't have a clue.
46 posted on 11/30/2001 11:57:57 AM PST by american spirit
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To: F16Fighter
"I'm still waiting for any type of evidence that would suggest that Mexican immigration is any different than any other past wave of immigration."

Well for one how about the fact that the Mexicans can just walk over an undefended boarder any time they feel like it. Where as other imigrants had to sell everything, get on a boat an forget ever seeing thier homeland again. I'd call that a very very big diference.

47 posted on 11/30/2001 11:58:28 AM PST by jpsb
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To: mvscal
Ups, 47 was meant for you!
48 posted on 11/30/2001 11:59:04 AM PST by jpsb
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To: mvscal
Not on Free Republic.

Been great seeing you around, good luck with your vocabulary development, and better luck with your self control next time.

49 posted on 11/30/2001 12:00:43 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: mvscal; Travis McGee
We cannot see who is making complaints, but it is pretty clear you two are just hitting abuse on each other as you flame back and forth.

Please stop (both abusing each other and then complaining).

50 posted on 11/30/2001 12:01:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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