Posted on 12/01/2001 11:15:24 AM PST by t-shirt
...and longer, not only with this, but all sorts of materials. Most folks don't have heinous intents with these sort of items.
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LOL! Sometimes I find blue and green fuzzy stuff growing in my refrigerator.
The blue stuff tastes kinda good.
I have a couple of open shelves just to the left of my kitchen counter. Sometimes I place fruit and vegetables on one of the shelves, and then I forget about them for months.
During that time they dry out without rotting.
Here is a completely dried out orange from my shelf. This orange is about three years old.........
some czechs became nazi's; they hated commies; is it possible that "demoRATS=commies"? Audio
In a book on fringe pop psychology ("Frogs into Princes : Neuro Linguistic Programming," by Richard Bandler, John Grinder) the author makes a point -- in passing! -- that studies of smallpox outbreaks in England showed that people had actually developed immunity to the disease before vaccination became common. I believe some fringe tin foil types extrapolate from this and other instances that vaccinations, rather than eradicating a disease, just kind of "ride on the shirt-tails" of the natural human ability to _evolve_ immunity to viruses and such.
Mark W.
Does every thread have to turn into a cheese thread?
This guy has a lot of names. When he's not Tomas Foral, or Thomas Foral, he's Tomas Jirku. Tomas Jirku may be his "real" (i.e. birth) name. (There is a Czech-Canadian musician by that name, not the same guy). Watch for the name Lyudmila Gitelman to surface in this. |
Anthrax is a Biohazard Level 2 infectious agent. This reflects the fact that it is pretty hard to become accidentally infected, and that it is highly treatable with antibiotics.
I've read that it was commonly available in many biology laboratories as an experimental subject. Biohazards Levels range from 1 (least hazardous) to 4 (most hazardous). For lab requirments see CDC. It is not surprising in the least that old specimens would be lying about in freezers at universities with Vet Schools or Animal Science programs. The fact that most Universities have destroyed whatever specimens they could find after the recent attacks is probably driven by their liability lawyers and insurance companies, not that anthrax has suddenly become more dangerous.
Tomas Foral also had West Nile Virus stored in his personal freezer, along with the vial containing anthrax-infected tissue, and another with Eastern equine encephalitis:
Note: the "personal freezer" was apparently located in the basement of the same lab where the anthrax was originally stored at UConn, though this is not clear. It does not seem to be Mr. Foral's home freezer, anyway.
I doubt Mr. Foral has any connection with the recent anthrax deaths. This is more an indictment of lax security procedures regarding infectious diseases at university labs, IMO.
Not sure I understand why anybody would accuse some grad student who stores anthrax contaminated animal blood of having anything to do with spreading the refined spores via the postal system. This is either nothing, or we ain't gettin' the whole story.
I wonder if the 'Thomas' Foral they have found is the 'Tomas' Foral hilighted in the acknowledgements for this article on the west Nile Virus in birds... Yes, and in fact he had some of that in his home freezer as well. Along with some equine encephalitis. This guy was a veritable collector of diseases. On the other hand, he studies veterinary diseases, so who knows whether it means anything. Other stuff: Near as I can tell, he was born in the U.S., in Iowa. References to Ames, Iowa will go nowhere; he's been living in CT so long that he would have been a little kid when he was in Iowa. He is unlikely to be the Tomas Foral listed on the faculty of the Czech university; it's possible, but I don't think so. He's only a grad student now. His family mostly goes by the name Jirku, although they seem to have a penchant for adopting Americanized names; Jiri becomes George, etc. For Tomas to also use Thomas would not be out of place in his family. I don't think it's a matter of adopting 'aliases' so much as trying to become Americans by losing the foreign-sounding names. I would be surprised if this guy turns out to be the culprit in the anthrax mailings. |
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