Skip to comments.Gov. Jesse Ventura (I-Minnesota) Considering Senate Bid To Unseat Incumbent Democrat Paul Wellstone
Posted on 12/02/2001 4:59:12 AM PST by codebreaker
To hear the political buzz in Minnesota-and that is all it is-Gov. Jesse Ventura is giving some thought to trying to unseat Sen. Paul Wellstone next year instead of seeking re-election.
Governor Ventura, a famously vocal independent, usually has a comment on just about everything.
But of his political future, he has said nothing definitive, refusing not only to address the Senate rumour but also to say whether he will run for a second term as governor.
Jesse, sure would be an interesting Senator.
Think of the photo opps with Little Tommy Dashole.
He would need three phone books to sit on
Do you think feather boas would be in style? Condit might even take to wearing on in the House floor
-- Gotta love having one more [semi-independant] clown in the senate, instead of the usual clones from either party.
And as we can see, this is a big threat to party hacks.
Wellstone is my example of an honest liberal, and for that I'm greatful.
Honest liberals, although political light years away from true conservatives on some issues,
are OK in my book.
PS: Many non Pubbies would vote for Wellstone over, lets say,,,Liddy Dole....
As he has done with the governorship, he'd make it interesting.
Huh, no way. It would turn into a three way race just like the 98 governors race. With Ventura taking more voters away from Wellstone than Coleman, IMHO.
Remember, too: Jesse's not a libertarian, although he appears to be. He's much more socially liberal than he is fiscally conservative. Sure, he'd be for tax cuts and other fiscally conservative things, but as with most social liberals, they view the right to kill the unborn and butt-slam their buddies over lower taxes, etc.
I absolutely guarantee you that Jesse would caucus with the Democrats.
You guys think Wellstone is bad, and I certainly tend to agree, that he is more of an 'honest' liberal than the rest of the RATS, but that is almost an oxymoron. And that 'honesty' just means he doesn't mask his fundamental oppositon to almost every tenet of the American notion of individual liberty with reciprocal duties of citizenship, and of capitalism and free enterprise. His 'honesty' does not get anything other than sheltered coverage in the local media from the 'Red Star' to 'Channel 4-Karl Marx'. Dislodging him will be difficult, as Wellstone doesn't have to answer the tough questions (although he 'honestly' is more than happy to, his career is protected by these local yokels who run interference for him). Ventura would definitely be worse, as he runs conservative, and then is basically worse than most RINOs. He would definitely be FAR LEFT of Trent Lott. He may well make this run because (1) It is do-able, and will not involve a dust-up over his record as much as a another term as governor and he can run on his still lingering popularity (although the evidence is he has dropped 25 points in the last few months). And...you may have difficulty believing this but it is true: (2) Jesse fears the conservative christian GOP gubernatorial candidate Brian Sullivan, who is precisely aimed at taking the governship back from him, as he is not a 'politician' but a self-made millionaire who runs schools, among other things, and KNOWS the issues, and is unflinching at the 'culture war' implicit in their clash. Unlike Jesse, virtually everyone is favorably impressed personally with Sullivan. Never underestimate the power of charm and grace. And Jesse's record is blowing apart, when it is explained what kind of tax cuts we could have had instead of the feeble excuses for what we got, plus a demented choo-choo project that will move nobody but criminals to and from the Mega Mall--and stymied all major road projects, and perpetuated Hillary's Profile of Learning curricular disaster in the schools. Nothing to brag about.
That alone separates him from all D's and most R's...
I agree, but my point is that one can have a constructive argument with an honest liberal as opposed to a Fabian socialist.
Bring back HHH!
Oh, I don't know, maybe not zealously push for Hillarycare, the rollback of welfare reform, tax hikes, and income redistribution of every description like this "honest liberal" does. The Republican, Norm Coleman, isn't some Jeffords/Chafee type, anyway.
And to say that Liddy Dole is no different than Wellstone makes even less sense than the idea that Dubya was no different than Gore! Times may change, but the Buchananuts stay the same; it may come as a thunderous shock to you Jethro, but there are other issues besides immigration.
The universal defining characteristic of a Senator, regardles of political persuasion, is a huge ego. Jesse would fit right in.
Hasn't stopped McSHAME, that loser.
I know what you mean. I sometimes admire him for that, although I disagree with about 99% of what he says are his priorities. He's certainly a lot more honorable than John McSHAME.
Think what you want of Ventura...he was a SEAL.
Overall, I agree with the opinions he's expressed on issues from welfare to gun ownership. It seems to me the guy has a great deal of common sense. Perhaps he got his views from his days as a Navy Seal.
I say we give this man a chance.
Just the thought of the fireworks that would spring up between McInsane the anti-gun Republican and Ventura the vocal pro-Second Amendment opinionator is well...fascinating.
If he runs, I hope he wins.
If he runs, I hope he wins
Actually during last years Presidential campaign Ventura was quite deferential to McCain and Gore. Ventura is no conservative, but a loud mouthed buffoon.
Anybody who calls an abortion the same thing as an appendectomy doesn't have it all upstairs.
Rats...I hope he's changed his mind about those two "war heros".
"Anybody who calls an abortion the same thing as an appendectomy doesn't have it all upstairs"
He really said that??
Of Coleman's baggage: Video and audio of Coleman endorsing and praising Wellstone, Clinton and others. Rumors and insinuations about inappropriate influence over the Sherrif's department. And while he sends out pictures of he and his family all smiles, he and his wife are essentially separated with both of them bedding down with other people at the moment. I understand from my sources that at least one of the two major newspapers here have the names of two of the women Norm has been "visiting" lately.
That is a partial list of the damaging things on Norm Coleman at the moment. Most of those things wouldn't harm a Democrat in this state, but in a state where Liberals and Roosevelt Dems rule, a Republican who loses even a percentage of his base is toast. As someone who is not only part of Norm's local base in the St. Paul area but also fairly involved in the Republican party - Norm Coleman's support is weak and lackluster.
I'm betting that another governor, Arne Carlson will jump into this senate race. Arne is the ONLY person to ever defeat Wellstone in a statewide race (They ran against each other for Auditor - and Arne kicked Wellstone all over the place.) Arne is a perceived "liberal Republican" but he has shown he can win repeatedly in a moderate to liberal state like Minnesota.
I'm trying to help put together a draft committee for Arne Carlson. If folks are interested, let me know.
According to the ACU, Wellstone is the most liberal member of the Senate (worst than Kennedy or Leahy).
Anything would be an improvement. I'm from the wing of the party that doesn't write half the country off as being too liberal to win in - we have Gordon Smith in Oregon and Rick Santerum in PA as examples where we have won in places "too liberal". I don't believe in symbolic victories either. You have to win elections to set the agenda. We must WIN more elections.
I remember when Keillor used to do his radio show out of the (I can't remember the name!) theater in downtown St. Paul. There are times when I miss Minnesota (I left in '84).
I, in no way form or fashion claimed Jesse was a conservative.
My point is: He would be better than Wellstone, almost anyone would be better than Wellstone.
You did get the "egomaniac" part correct though.
Maybe. While Jesse tries to talk a good game on the Second Amendment, he was very quick to back down when the liberals came after him on gun issues.
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