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Gov. Jesse Ventura (I-Minnesota) Considering Senate Bid To Unseat Incumbent Democrat Paul Wellstone
The Sunday New York Times ^ | December 2, 2001 | Election/Government Section

Posted on 12/02/2001 4:59:12 AM PST by codebreaker

To hear the political buzz in Minnesota-and that is all it is-Gov. Jesse Ventura is giving some thought to trying to unseat Sen. Paul Wellstone next year instead of seeking re-election.

Governor Ventura, a famously vocal independent, usually has a comment on just about everything.

But of his political future, he has said nothing definitive, refusing not only to address the Senate rumour but also to say whether he will run for a second term as governor.


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To: codebreaker
I don't know if you're from Minnesota, but that's what one would think. But again, a) his top staffers were all former Democrats; and b) he is very socially liberal (pro-abortion and pro-gay rights).

Remember, too: Jesse's not a libertarian, although he appears to be. He's much more socially liberal than he is fiscally conservative. Sure, he'd be for tax cuts and other fiscally conservative things, but as with most social liberals, they view the right to kill the unborn and butt-slam their buddies over lower taxes, etc.

I absolutely guarantee you that Jesse would caucus with the Democrats.

21 posted on 12/02/2001 5:55:12 AM PST by GreatOne
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To: Dane
Agreed. Jesse would be the death knell for Wellston in a three man race.
22 posted on 12/02/2001 5:57:42 AM PST by codebreaker
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To: Jethro Tull
Most Minnesota GOP ex-Senators, Boschwitz and Durenberger of past infamy, and most recently the late (only politically dead) lamented Rod Grams, have shown to be fairly sturdy supporters of the GOP presidential agenda. Durenberger came closest to being a 'RINO' and Boschwitz was just plain arrogant and goofy on some issues, where they deviated from orthodox conservatism. Boschwitz's arrogance and political ineptitude is the reason Wellstone got elected in the first place.

You guys think Wellstone is bad, and I certainly tend to agree, that he is more of an 'honest' liberal than the rest of the RATS, but that is almost an oxymoron. And that 'honesty' just means he doesn't mask his fundamental oppositon to almost every tenet of the American notion of individual liberty with reciprocal duties of citizenship, and of capitalism and free enterprise. His 'honesty' does not get anything other than sheltered coverage in the local media from the 'Red Star' to 'Channel 4-Karl Marx'. Dislodging him will be difficult, as Wellstone doesn't have to answer the tough questions (although he 'honestly' is more than happy to, his career is protected by these local yokels who run interference for him). Ventura would definitely be worse, as he runs conservative, and then is basically worse than most RINOs. He would definitely be FAR LEFT of Trent Lott. He may well make this run because (1) It is do-able, and will not involve a dust-up over his record as much as a another term as governor and he can run on his still lingering popularity (although the evidence is he has dropped 25 points in the last few months). And...you may have difficulty believing this but it is true: (2) Jesse fears the conservative christian GOP gubernatorial candidate Brian Sullivan, who is precisely aimed at taking the governship back from him, as he is not a 'politician' but a self-made millionaire who runs schools, among other things, and KNOWS the issues, and is unflinching at the 'culture war' implicit in their clash. Unlike Jesse, virtually everyone is favorably impressed personally with Sullivan. Never underestimate the power of charm and grace. And Jesse's record is blowing apart, when it is explained what kind of tax cuts we could have had instead of the feeble excuses for what we got, plus a demented choo-choo project that will move nobody but criminals to and from the Mega Mall--and stymied all major road projects, and perpetuated Hillary's Profile of Learning curricular disaster in the schools. Nothing to brag about.

23 posted on 12/02/2001 6:08:06 AM PST by Paul Ross
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To: codebreaker
Wellstone is a communist. I have talked to someone that even has pictures of him burning the American flag in years past. I would vote for the "Tourist Guy" before Wellstone.
24 posted on 12/02/2001 6:11:26 AM PST by cibco
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To: codebreaker
There is no question to any Minnesotan that Jesse would caucus with the RATS. Not just his aides. He is a RAT under cover. He made fairly clear who he voted for, and it was never Reagan or Bush. He was constantly having Bill & Hillary over, and had Al & Tipper Gore stay at his family home a week last summer. Maybe Jesse will be going to Al's fictitious 'family restaruant' in Tennessee. This guy is one rotten apple.
25 posted on 12/02/2001 6:14:28 AM PST by Paul Ross
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To: codebreaker
Jesse is good on the Second Amendment.

That alone separates him from all D's and most R's...

26 posted on 12/02/2001 6:18:23 AM PST by Jethro Tull
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To: Paul Ross
#23:"And that 'honesty' just means he doesn't mask his fundamental oppositon to almost every tenet of the American notion of individual liberty with reciprocal duties of citizenship, and of capitalism and free enterprise."

I agree, but my point is that one can have a constructive argument with an honest liberal as opposed to a Fabian socialist.

Bring back HHH!

27 posted on 12/02/2001 6:21:48 AM PST by Jethro Tull
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To: Jethro Tull
Question: What has Paul Wellstone done that a RINO Senator from Minnesota would have done differently?

Oh, I don't know, maybe not zealously push for Hillarycare, the rollback of welfare reform, tax hikes, and income redistribution of every description like this "honest liberal" does. The Republican, Norm Coleman, isn't some Jeffords/Chafee type, anyway.

And to say that Liddy Dole is no different than Wellstone makes even less sense than the idea that Dubya was no different than Gore! Times may change, but the Buchananuts stay the same; it may come as a thunderous shock to you Jethro, but there are other issues besides immigration.

28 posted on 12/02/2001 6:29:05 AM PST by winin2000
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To: codebreaker
Jesse and Barbara Milulski.
29 posted on 12/02/2001 6:29:22 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: GreatOne
Being one of 50 Senators and not being able to go off on someone are not his style.

The universal defining characteristic of a Senator, regardles of political persuasion, is a huge ego. Jesse would fit right in.

30 posted on 12/02/2001 6:39:53 AM PST by Lessismore
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To: codebreaker
Great idea! Jesse could provide real balance to the leftist tilt.
32 posted on 12/02/2001 6:55:50 AM PST by pointsal
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To: GreatOne
The Man wherever he goes. Being one of 50 Senators and not being able to go off on someone are not his style.

Hasn't stopped McSHAME, that loser.

33 posted on 12/02/2001 6:57:30 AM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Jethro Tull
Wellstone is my example of an honest liberal, and for that I'm greatful.

I know what you mean. I sometimes admire him for that, although I disagree with about 99% of what he says are his priorities. He's certainly a lot more honorable than John McSHAME.

34 posted on 12/02/2001 6:59:41 AM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Theodore R.
"Just because he claims to have been a Navy SEAL (this claim, as I understand it, is disputed),"

Think what you want of Ventura...he was a SEAL.

35 posted on 12/02/2001 7:00:55 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: codebreaker
I don't know what Ventura's track record is as governor of Minnisota. The fact that I haven't seen anything BAD about him in the news is a hopeful sign.

Overall, I agree with the opinions he's expressed on issues from welfare to gun ownership. It seems to me the guy has a great deal of common sense. Perhaps he got his views from his days as a Navy Seal.

I say we give this man a chance.

36 posted on 12/02/2001 7:01:47 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: cake_crumb
Garrison Keillor hates him, that makes Ventura ok in my book.
37 posted on 12/02/2001 7:04:42 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: VA Advogado
"Hasn't stopped McSHAME, that loser."

Just the thought of the fireworks that would spring up between McInsane the anti-gun Republican and Ventura the vocal pro-Second Amendment opinionator is well...fascinating.

If he runs, I hope he wins.

38 posted on 12/02/2001 7:10:23 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: codebreaker
There is enough BLOWHARDS in the Senate without Ventura. It's time for Senators of action, not egomania. Thumbs down on the pink boa idiot.
39 posted on 12/02/2001 7:15:26 AM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: cake_crumb
Just the thought of the fireworks that would spring up between McInsane the anti-gun Republican and Ventura the vocal pro-Second Amendment opinionator is well...fascinating.

If he runs, I hope he wins

Actually during last years Presidential campaign Ventura was quite deferential to McCain and Gore. Ventura is no conservative, but a loud mouthed buffoon.

Anybody who calls an abortion the same thing as an appendectomy doesn't have it all upstairs.

40 posted on 12/02/2001 7:17:29 AM PST by Dane
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