Posted on 12/03/2001 11:53:17 PM PST by FF578
Another personal attack.
Do tell me - do you have a "Mean People Suck" bumper sticker on the back of your Jeep?
Yet another personal attack.
Don't give him too hard a time, he may take his computer and go home.
i am sorry that you would let a good friend screw up his life with drugs and not get involved in saving that person's life.
there are two problems with your argument: first, the person who screws up his life will become another government dependent. secondly, before he has screwed up his life, he has the potential to screw up someone else's life while he is high on drugs. lawyers making poor decisions, doctors who accidently slice an artery, rail switch operators who cannot keep track of what direction the trains are going on any one track.
it is people that want freedom, but who do not want the responsibility that comes with their freedom that are a bane to society.
And those would be?
What the DEA did in California on October 22nd is unconstitutional -- the 9th and 10th Amendments were thrown out the window when the medi-pot clinics were raided.
What they need to do is promote a candidate for President, or at least form a special interest lobby, that will change the status of marijuana from Schedule 1 to a less restrictive schedule.
Two things:
1. GWB claimed during the 2000 election that he would respect state's rights regarding medical marijuana. On October 22nd, he broke that promise.
2. The DEA has over the years commissioned studies on rescheduling marijuana. Every time, the studies came back in favor of rescheduling. Every time they were ignored.
This has been discussed time and time again. "The people" can not change drug policy. Those in charge are APPOINTED. No one who runs for government office is going to end government control. Its just that simple, and you know it.
Practically, if the people want to end the "war", they can. Some states have passed initiatives for medical marijuana. Problem is, that would be illegal
You just contradicted yourself. If the feds still deem "drugs" illegal, then "the people"(who are the States) cant change anything. Where did the Constitution give the Feds the power to dictate drug policy to the States? It didn't, and you know it.
It is already common knowledge that the basis of the 1970 CSA is fraudulent. The entire basis for drug prohibition is fraudulent. How do you expect a government who still recognizes fraudulent laws and rational to change anything. The "average person" can not even hope to be appointed to a position that could change things. The "people can end the WOD" arguments is the most flimsy argument around. The government will not give up control without a war.
i understand your point. but when a person goes to work high, he is putting people at risk. doctors, lawyers, airline pilots, etc. can kill people with poor judgment. in addition, the corruption that follows a drug trail is bad for society.
people often times cite amsterdam as a place where drugs have been successfully decriminalized. i have been there and am disgusted by parts of the city. further, knight hawk, a freeper, has said that the drug problem has caused amsterdam to now be the murder capital of western europe, surpassing london. this from the very non-violent hollanders!
That is the libertarian message, in a nutshell. Without responsibility, there can be no liberty. Without liberty, there can be no morality. It's that second statement that drug warriors have such a hard time with.
Soory bass, but you you and the Libertarians have the message backwards. Below is the message that works.
Without morality, there can be no liberty. Without liberty, there can be no responsiblity.
Your above italicized message in the first paragaraph is anarchy.
Follow the money.
The same problems are noted with that legal drug, alcohol. And employers have every right to ban use of mind-altering substances while employees are on the job. That has nothing to do with prohibition, and everything to do with an employer's discretion on who gets hired and fired.
in addition, the corruption that follows a drug trail is bad for society.
"Bad for society" ONLY because of the legal status. My guess is that the CEO's of Anheuser-Busch and Seagram's are probably not sociopaths, because they run businesses that operate within the framework of the law. Drug kingpins, however, succeed only through utter ruthlessness, as there are no laws to serve as a framework for their "commerce".
people often times cite amsterdam as a place where drugs have been successfully decriminalized. i have been there and am disgusted by parts of the city. further, knight hawk, a freeper, has said that the drug problem has caused amsterdam to now be the murder capital of western europe, surpassing london. this from the very non-violent hollanders!
Don't know much about Amsterdam - never been there - but I am aware that Holland is a bloated welfare state that has other problems besides drugs. And remember, drugs are not LEGAL there; only possession has been decriminalized. The drug TRADE is still illegal, with all the violence associated with the black market.
In our world, that means morality is whatever the government says it means. That, my friend, is the essence of totalitarianism.
Your above italicized message in the first paragaraph is anarchy.
No, it's freedom, just as the Founding Fathers intended.
Sad days lie ahead for the drug warriors. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, makes money like illicit drugs.
The article starts off with a false premise. That sentence should read:
No one is completely sheltered from the violence, destruction, and costs that arise as a result the illegalization of drugs.
If drugs were legal there would be very little violence, destruction or costs arising.
I think you get the idea.
He's not the only one. ;)
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Behind Door #2: 200 reds
Come on, take the reds, man!
Behind Door #3 are Narcs -- Officer Fred25 and Officer Kevin Curry ---> YOU'RE BUSTED!!
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