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Taliban Traitor (Walker)
NY Press ^ | 12/04/01 | Tim Hall

Posted on 12/04/2001 12:06:08 PM PST by veronica

Thousands of misty-eyed coeds from Brooklyn Heights to Berkeley are no doubt sniffling into their burqas today. From East Hampton to West Bum****, America-hating Volvo environmentalists and armchair activists are no doubt furiously forwarding e-mails, painting signs and passing petitions protesting the capture of American John Walker, the wretched, dirty traitor who was nabbed fighting for the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Lo, can you hear them? Can you see those bespectacled waifs with poor iron counts and "Milk is Murder" t-shirts, trembling with unexpressed erotic urgings at the CNN clip of the injured Walker's smudged face, concave chest and soulful eyes? (Rather, I should say, those empty, Manson-esque eyes, the vacant glare of the sociopath—no matter.)

I also love how, in truest wigger fashion, the beleaguered Walker—after only a few months in Afghanistan—speaks with a foreign accent, as if he only...learning English...from his...good Taliban peoples. F**** t***. I hope they hang him high, and soon, as a lesson for the rest of those who would turn on this country.

Still, Walker is blessed with the sort of good looks that perverse counterculture heroes are made of, and if the media is not careful they could easily turn him into this war's Timothy McVeigh—racing the hearts of a thousand Mother Jones readers and making Susan Sontag and Noam Chomsky beam like the proud ideological parents they are.

But then, I really can't wait for the pro-Walker camp to start raising its collective bearded head from the pockmarked foxholes of the shell-shocked radical left. I've still got a few shots in my clip I'd like to unload. The best scenario would be to try Walker on a ship, somewhere out at sea, in one of those swell military tribunals (I would also suggest making his execution a pay-per-view event, with the proceeds going right into the pockets of AOL Time Warner shareholders, but that's hoping for too much).

Unfortunately, such tribunals are reserved for non-U.S. citizens, not homegrown traitors like Walker (or the management of Enron, for example). Still, there is hope. Legal experts are speculating that by joining the Taliban, Walker may have already renounced his U.S. citizenship, and Rear Admiral John Stufflebeem has said that Walker's claim of citizenship "is being respected for the moment." Repeat: "for the moment."

Which brings up a far more pressing and important question: just what the hell kind of name is “Stufflebeem”?


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lindh

1 posted on 12/04/2001 12:06:08 PM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
The answer to your final question is: Dickensian. AdR
2 posted on 12/04/2001 12:15:51 PM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: veronica
Turn him over to the Northern Alliance he is really their prisoner and I'm pretty sure they know how to deal with foriegn taliban.
3 posted on 12/04/2001 12:18:50 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: veronica
I noticed how he trills his "R"'s. I know some America-hating Americans who have lived in South America for a time. They speak English with a pronounced Spanish accent. It's creepy. Remember all the lefties in the eighties who could speak a perfect English sentence, but right in the middle, shift gears and say "Nee-khah-RAH-hghwah," without missing a beat.
4 posted on 12/04/2001 12:40:40 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan; Orual
Remember all the lefties in the eighties who could speak a perfect English sentence, but right in the middle, shift gears and say "Nee-khah-RAH-hghwah," without missing a beat.

All too well. Lord, what a bunch of dim-witted copycats!

5 posted on 12/04/2001 12:47:11 PM PST by dighton
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To: dighton; Arthur McGowan
say "Nee-khah-RAH-hghwah," without missing a beat.

Or the newscasters who suddenly switch from their New Yahwk accents and say, "Pwwwuuuerrrrrrtoh Rrrrrrreeeeeecoh."

Reminds me of some American expats I knew who became veddy British when around those from the UK.

6 posted on 12/04/2001 12:54:41 PM PST by Orual
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To: veronica
I have also heard that there is other US a citizen fighting for the Taliban.

I realize everyone is caught up with WAR FEVER and wants to put on trial, if not kill everyone that is not prepared to wave the flag madly around their head.

But I think we need to look a little more deeply into the matter. Walker did not join the Taliban on September 11th and he could not possibly run to the Northern Alliance to give himself up a couple of months ago, otherwise I think he would have been shot either by his friends the Taliban or the Northern Alliance.

What should really concern everyone, is how many US Citizen in the USA are supporters of The Taliban and Al Quida.

These are the people you have to really worry about, no uniform, no long beards, no I love the Taliban badges to identify themselves. They could be policeman, firemen, military (Timothy Mcveigh), Nuclear scientists, Airline pilots (does not need to break down the cabin door), fighter pilots (look out nuclear plants), subway station managers, hospital doctors, football stadium security personnel, the list could go on and on. So we should concentrate on what could effect us, not some 20-year-old that decided to become a Muslim and fight for what he believed in.

And before we say he is a traitor for fighting with he Taliban, it was not to long ago that US government and oil businesses were in serious discussion with the Taliban to have the pipeline go through Afghanistan.

But maybe it's OK if it’s for money, but not OK for ideals that you believe in so strongly you are prepared to die.

7 posted on 12/04/2001 12:56:30 PM PST by John_11_25
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To: John_11_25
If you can't see that this guy is a traitor, maybe you need to get the hell of this country. You ever hear of self responsibility for your actions?
8 posted on 12/04/2001 1:02:04 PM PST by ohioman
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To: John_11_25
What exactly do you do in Saudi Arabia John?
9 posted on 12/04/2001 1:08:09 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: John_11_25
Um, you read where he approved of the attacks on the U.S.S. Cole and the World Trade Center. He is toast, and deservedly so.

(It is sad for him that he had the type of parents he did, but at 20 years of age that is now irrelevant.)

10 posted on 12/04/2001 1:09:08 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: John_11_25
"...it was not to long ago that US government and oil businesses were in serious discussion with the Taliban to have the pipeline go through Afghanistan."

What a absolutely stupid thing to say. They weren't "in serious discussion" to kill American soldiers.

11 posted on 12/04/2001 1:11:51 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: ohioman
Ohioman, I am not saying that he is innocent, I just think there are more important things to worry about for US citizens here and abroad.

The Oilmen and the US Government were doing deals with the Taliban, and UBL has been there for a few years, so if the deal were successful, they would have been supporting UBL in blowing up WTC.

As with all international deals, and as we can see from the war already, Afghani's are quite prepared to do anything if the price is right, so maybe sweeteners offered were not high enough, and if sweeteners were offered, what happened to them? Were they funneled to Al Quida?

12 posted on 12/04/2001 1:14:17 PM PST by John_11_25
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To: veronica
Wondered when we'd be running into the Berkeley Taliban ground troops. Never met a totalitarian government they didn't like.
13 posted on 12/04/2001 1:21:20 PM PST by Diogenez
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To: John_11_25
We're quite capable of "worrying about the important things" while ridding ourselves of this punk at the same time.
14 posted on 12/04/2001 1:22:50 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: veronica
Did you see todays NY Times article on Walker. B section. They had a picture of his family's house( pg. B4) and just peaking out the garage------the front end of a Volvo!
15 posted on 12/04/2001 2:30:09 PM PST by Leisler
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To: John_11_25
You, Sir!, are so sadly out of step. There is just a little too much the scent of the marxist in your prose.
16 posted on 12/04/2001 5:13:59 PM PST by x1stcav
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To: veronica
Think it's time to post the photo of the people leaping from the 100th floor again
17 posted on 12/04/2001 5:17:09 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: veronica
A trial at sea would be a good idea - followed by a slow keel-hauling.
18 posted on 12/04/2001 5:28:19 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: John_11_25
Nah, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. We should take him out and then the rest as we find them.
19 posted on 12/04/2001 5:42:34 PM PST by Roy Tucker
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To: A Navy Vet; John_11_25
I guess the Taliban missed their chance to cash in on the big bucks then. Instead they chose to harbor a genocidal maniac, who if he could take out 100,000 American lives would do so. The Taliban then refused to give him up after it became clear that his group was involved in the attacks of 9/11. I guess they chose sides, maybe because they get paid by OBL and his supporters to shield him and because they are making too much dough from the opium trade.

That was then, this is now. The Taliban blew it. They should have gone for the money instead of what was behind Door No. 2.

20 posted on 12/04/2001 5:51:15 PM PST by Roy Tucker
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To: veronica
I GREW UP IN MARIN COUNTY!!!

It's a crazy place... I swear there were so many totally mentally screwed up kids there who were about a few fries short of going insane due to clueless parents, moral relativism and too much free time and lack of parental supervision. If you've ever seen the movie "Bully" it totally reminds me of the lifestyle of a lot of people I knew. These were rich white kids too which was the scary part.

21 posted on 12/04/2001 5:51:45 PM PST by Odyssey-x
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To: veronica

As an American citizen, after trial,
he has the right to a cigarette and a blindfold.
22 posted on 12/04/2001 5:59:07 PM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: veronica
You make some very interesting points until you (seeminly) call question to the JCS's surname. I don't understand your issue. Care to explain?
23 posted on 12/04/2001 6:08:01 PM PST by Orbiter
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To: John_11_25
Did you hear the one about the American who joined the Taliban and raised the average IQ of both categories?
24 posted on 12/04/2001 6:13:03 PM PST by mathurine
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To: veronica
What we should do is heal his wounds, clean him up and put him in a suit. After that we can have a big ceremony where we pin a medal on him and shake his hand with a salute.

Then leave him alone with about a hundred taliban prisoners.

25 posted on 12/04/2001 6:14:53 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: ScholarWarrior
Is that a drawing of the execution of William Walker?
26 posted on 12/04/2001 6:19:30 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: veronica
Deprogram him first..........then hang him.
27 posted on 12/04/2001 6:19:57 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: veronica
If this traitor is not deserving of the death penalty under our constitution, then what act would it take to deservedly suffer that fate?

As to renouncing his citizenship, I'm sure the state department will have a record of his demand. Otherwise, he is just a US citizen waging war against the government of the United States, and should suffer the consequences of doing that. Our founders enumerated the death penalty for the most heinous of those cases of treason, and it seems to me that this instance is in that category.

28 posted on 12/04/2001 6:23:10 PM PST by Mushinronshasan
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To: John_11_25
They were talking about oil pipelines and facilities in Afghanistan with the organization associated with the late Abdul Haq. You know, the guy whose family was murdered by the agents of Osama bin Laden, the guy who had for years been pleading with the US to get involved with more economic and political handling in Afghanistan with the goal of trying to reduce the radical's power, the guy who the Taliban caught and hung when he tried to go into Pushtun territory to organize a revolt against the arabic (al-Qeada) elements in the Taliban.

That's who this administration was in communication with... Abdul Haq. The Taliban themselves were more interested in dealing with the Chinese, with whom they have a rather toasty relationship. The Taliban, being largely influenced by Pakistan, were a dead-end to us, given our warming relations with India, Pakistan's enemy... and cooler relations with China, Pakistan's friend and also India's enemy. with China building Paki and Afghan infrastructure... communications and power facilities in Afghanistan, roads, military items and ports in Pakistan, the US was not in tight enough to accomplish anything with the Taliban. Futility.

It was unlikely any serious progress was to be had from dealing with Taliban, except perhaps to get US companies in- and through them, US agents- who could then recruit locals and seek info on Al-Qeada and bin-Laden himself. But China was paying good money to keep that from occuring, I think, even assuming we were seriously considering it. Hence, the increasing relations with the renegade types like Haq, and Afghan old-government organizations in Britain... where serious conversations were beginning to pick up.

29 posted on 12/04/2001 6:40:35 PM PST by piasa
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30 posted on 12/04/2001 7:28:17 PM PST by WIMom
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To: veronica
Here, here, this man is an American citizen and deserves all the rights and priviledges of any other American citizen granted by the Constitution of the United States of America - he should have a fair trial, judged by his peers, and then we should shoot the farging bastadge
31 posted on 12/04/2001 8:00:57 PM PST by ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
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To: John_11_25
I realize everyone is caught up with WAR FEVER and wants to put on trial, if not kill everyone that is not prepared to wave the flag madly around their head.

This is not about any "war fever" or that this dirtbag didn't show the right amount of patriotism; he stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the Taliban and participated in a conflict where his side killed U.S. personnel. He said in his own words that he supported the attack on 9/11. He fought with the enemy against the U.S. -- what part of all that do you find confusing?

But I think we need to look a little more deeply into the matter. Walker did not join the Taliban on September 11th and he could not possibly run to the Northern Alliance to give himself up a couple of months ago, otherwise I think he would have been shot either by his friends the Taliban or the Northern Alliance.

That lame excuse doesn't wash. It's a long way from Northern California to Afghanistan, by way of Yemen and Kashmir and Pakistan: this dirtbag was making his choices all along the way, and he consistently chose to side with extremist groups that intended to do harm to the U.S. and it's people. Don't try to make it sound as if he just walked out of his suburban home and suddenly found himself holding a Kalashnikov that was pointed at our guys. He made his choices, several times, and the consequences will follow.

What should really concern everyone, is how many US Citizen in the USA are supporters of The Taliban and Al Quida.

Don't worry, we haven't forgotten about those.

These are the people you have to really worry about, no uniform, no long beards, no I love the Taliban badges to identify themselves. They could be policeman, firemen, military (Timothy Mcveigh), Nuclear scientists, Airline pilots (does not need to break down the cabin door), fighter pilots (look out nuclear plants), subway station managers, hospital doctors, football stadium security personnel, the list could go on and on. So we should concentrate on what could effect us, not some 20-year-old that decided to become a Muslim and fight for what he believed in.

"... fight for what he believed in", eh? You think that's somehow noble of him, don't you? We'll certainly bear in mind that there are terrorists in our midst and keep an appropriate vigil wherever and whenever possible, but somehow I don't think you'll want us to do much about those either. We'll keep our eye out for the 'sleepers' in this country, but that should not stop us from dealing with this traitorous puke in the meantime.

And before we say he is a traitor for fighting with he Taliban, it was not to long ago that US government and oil businesses were in serious discussion with the Taliban to have the pipeline go through Afghanistan.

He absolutely is a traitor for fighting on the side of the enemy today. The fact that they were not always our enemy does not absolve him of guilt; we are at war with the Taliban, today - right now, and Walker chose to fight with them against us.

32 posted on 12/04/2001 8:47:33 PM PST by AfghanAirShow
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To: John_11_25
Your an idiot John.
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35 posted on 12/05/2001 6:05:01 AM PST by ohioman
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36 posted on 12/06/2001 7:11:11 PM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: ScholarWarrior
I think William Walker was in Nicaragua. The uniforms in the print would have been close to that era. 1840's, I believe. Thanks for posting the picture.
37 posted on 12/06/2001 7:44:50 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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