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Operation bin Laden begins - Hundreds of Pashtun fighters reach Tora Bora caves
UPI | December 5, 2001

Posted on 12/04/2001 11:55:09 PM PST by HAL9000

JALALABAD, Afghanistan, Dec 05, 2001 (United Press International via COMTEX) -- U.S.-backed Pashtun forces marched into Osama bin Laden's secret mountain hideout in eastern Afghanistan Wednesday to capture the chief suspect in the Sept. 11 terror attacks. Officials in the eastern Afghan city of Jalalabad said hundreds of Pashtun fighters have already reached the Tora Bora caves where bin Laden and his lieutenants are reportedly hiding.

Copyright 2001 by United Press International.



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: talibanlist

1 posted on 12/04/2001 11:55:09 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000; *taliban_list
So where did the bin Laden defender's go?

Seems like a nasty surprise could happen.

To find all articles tagged or indexed using taliban_list

Click here: taliban_list

2 posted on 12/05/2001 12:00:19 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: HAL9000
Sounds as though they finally figured out that the reward is worth the risk. I wonder how much of that country you could buy for $25M? (A lot more than 72 virgins.)
3 posted on 12/05/2001 12:15:12 AM PST by 11B3
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To: HAL9000
i have a feeling he has a surprise for anyone who approaches tora bora. time will tell, but he's not going to just sit in the cave awaiting the troops.
4 posted on 12/05/2001 12:53:38 AM PST by blondee123
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To: HAL9000
They may be getting nervous in those caves, but at this time of the year, their heat signatures are going to light up like a string of Christmas tree lights.
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6 posted on 12/05/2001 1:55:52 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: HAL9000

Operation bin Laden begins

JALALABAD, Afghanistan, Dec 05, 2001 (United Press International via COMTEX) -- U.S.-backed Pashtun forces attacked Wednesday the suspected mountain hideout of Osama bin Laden in eastern Afghanistan in an effort to capture the chief suspect in the Sept. 11 terror attacks in the United States.

Officials in the eastern Afghan city of Jalalabad said hundreds of Pashtun fighters have already reached the Tora Bora cave and tunnel complex where bin Laden and his lieutenants may be hiding.

About 35 miles from Jalalabad, Tora Bora was built in the 1980s with U.S. financial support as a hiding place for Afghans fighting the Soviet occupation army.

Bin Laden occupied the caves in 1996 when he moved to Afghanistan from Sudan and is believed to have further fortified the facility.

A tribal commander, Zaman Khan, who is leading the Pashtun forces looking for bin Laden in Tora Bora told journalists in Jalalabad that his troops had occupied parts of the complex.

"Osama's men had already pulled out of these caves when our men arrived there," he said. "They have gone deeper into the caves to avoid intensive U.S. bombings."

U.S. forces have been bombing Tora Bora for almost a week now to force bin Laden and his men out of their hideouts.

The campaign to capture bin Laden intensified over the weekend when CIA chief George Tenet visited the bordering Pakistani city of Peshawar where he is believed to have met some Pashtun commanders now participating in the operation.

Two U.S. gunships and 60 commandos are also believed to have reached eastern Afghanistan in the search for bin Laden.

Pashtun commanders in Jalalabad said the Americans have also asked them to repair the runway at the Jalalabad airport, damaged during U.S. bombings last month when the Taliban still occupied the area.

"The Americans apparently want to bring fixed-wing planes for a possible evacuation of bin Laden and other suspected terrorists," said a local commander, Hazrat Ali.

The airport already has arrangements for accommodating gunships and helicopters.

He said U.S. and British commandos were providing "technical support to hundreds of Pashtun fighters now in Tora Bora but are not directly participating in the fight."

Guided by satellite, U.S. and British troops are expected to call in airstrikes as soon as they see bin Laden's men.

Zaman Khan said that his attempts to persuade al Qaida and Taliban soldiers to surrender had failed and his men were forced to launch a strike. "As the first step toward forcing surrender, we are severing their water sources. It is impossible survive in these inhospitable, arid mountains without water."

Afghan officials in Kabul have described the latest operation against bin Laden as "the beginning of the end game for al Qaida."

Copyright 2001 by United Press International.


7 posted on 12/05/2001 1:59:45 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
"Afghan officials in Kabul have described the latest operation against bin Laden as "the beginning of the end game for al Qaida."

It seems that this "end" has been beginning for several days now. I must be patient however. I know its dangerous work. I would like to know for certain that the SOB OBL is actually in those caves.

8 posted on 12/05/2001 6:09:37 AM PST by los
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To: HAL9000
FNC reported this morning that strikes on Tora Bora have killed some of Al Qaeda's top commanders. Also reported that basically all that's left of the Taliban is the Arabic Al-Qaeda wing. Communiques coming out of the Tora Bora complex are entirely in Arabic.
9 posted on 12/05/2001 6:28:12 AM PST by randita
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To: randita
Our prayers are with the allied troops on this dangerous mission.
10 posted on 12/05/2001 6:43:00 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: los
The Mindset of Osama? Should he be in there. Going back and forth between martyrdom and where is Alan Dershowitz ( spell check ) when you need him? A simular equasion on those around him? All for one and one for all or every man for himself? Changing by the day or hour? The knowing there is no way out for all or any who are there? What it may be doing to mindsets is to me a total fascination. AGREE? That old saying you make your own bed and therefore you have to sleep in it. A good nights sleep???????????
11 posted on 12/05/2001 6:43:50 AM PST by meducksguy
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12 posted on 12/05/2001 6:50:08 AM PST by WIMom
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To: HAL9000
Let us just hope that they arent laying traps for us in there. I would hate to see that cave go boom with our troops inside.

Up till now they have had no strategy of defense during this war so I doubt they will start now. Pray for our troops and allies!

13 posted on 12/05/2001 7:22:48 AM PST by Mixer
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14 posted on 12/05/2001 8:02:42 AM PST by 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember
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To: HAL9000
These caves are a good place to bury and detonate a nuke, or at least a couple of Daisy Cutters.
15 posted on 12/05/2001 8:13:49 AM PST by pchuck
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To: 11B3
I wonder how much of that country you could buy for $25M?

Not far away, in the Punjab, an unskilled farm laborer makes $10/ month. This is probably higher than in Afghanistan.

16 posted on 12/05/2001 8:20:48 AM PST by ExiledInTaiwan
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To: HAL9000; Victoria Delsoul; harpseal; Travis McGee; Snow Bunny; onyx; JohnHuang2; Spirit Of Truth...
p>Thanks again for all of your diligence in posting these articles HAL9000.

Osama Paki-pool Update:
Osama bin DEAD-pool

Pick a day! Any day! Or flag me for a QikPik!

Update

Still plenty of open dates, so flag me on this thread (not my mailbox) if you want in.
As you've noticed, since he doesn't look like he'll make it to Pakistan,
I went ahead and changed the name of the pool. Sue me.

KayEyeDoubleDee raised a good question the night... What's the effective time zone for the pool?
I should have established this earlier, so I think the only fair thing to do is say that it's
whatever Time Zone bin Laden is killed in (or appears in Pakistan, which seems increasingly unlikely.)

November, 2001

November 16: First day of Ramadan!
November 17: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub - Nope.
November 18: OPEN
November 19: OPEN
November 20: OPEN
November 21: OPEN
November 22: Azzurri -- Thanksgiving - Nope.
November 23: Sabertooth - Nope.
November 24: Jefferson Adams - Nope.
November 25: Victoria Delsoul - Nope.
November 26: airborne - Nope.
November 27: harpseal - Nope.
November 28: snippy_about_it - Nope.
November 29: Tunehead54 - Nope.
November 30: Travis McGee - Nope.










December, 2001

December   1: alancarp - Nope.
December   2: onyx - Nope.
December   3: AfghanAirShow - Nope.
December   4: Straight Vermonter - Tick… tick… tick.
December   5: Pokey78 - On the bubble.
December   6: proudofthesouth
December   7: null and void -- Pearl Harbor Day
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Not sure when Ramadan ends, but around here somewhere.

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January, 2002

January   1: Freeper 007 -- New Year's Day
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February, 2002

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May 17: Flipyaforreal




If you're unsure what the whole "Paki-pool" idea was about, click this link to a thread posted by Travis McGee on October 25th...

Will Osama Appear In Pakistan?

The operating theory is was that Osama bin Laden had a plan all along to show up in Pakistan, have himself declared the "Imam al-Mahdi" (a long-prophesied Islamic savior-figure), and start a civil war in an attempt to gain control of Pakistan's nukes.

Sound crazy? So is he. Crazy evil. It's still an interesting read.

Here's another:
   Black Flags of Islam  

Portents of the Imam al-Mahdi, the Moslems' prophesied deliverer of Jerusalem?

Click on the Black Flags for the link


17 posted on 12/05/2001 9:07:33 AM PST by Sabertooth
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CIA officer Mike Spann, in this undated family photo, is the first American known to be killed in combat in Afghanistan. Johnny ``Mike'' Spann, 32, who entered the Marine Corps and then joined the CIA in June 1999, was killed in action during a prison riot at Mazar-e-Sharif. His body was recovered Wednesday, Nov. 28, 2001 the CIA said, without providing details on the circumstances of Spann's death. (AP Photo/Family Photo via the CIA)

18 posted on 12/05/2001 9:11:30 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the 'pool ping'. Things are looking up. Go get 'em, guys! (And oh, uh, and try to do it on the eighth, 'k?)
19 posted on 12/05/2001 9:29:50 AM PST by MaeWest
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To: Sabertooth
Sabertooth-how can I get in for March 4th-it's my birthday.
20 posted on 12/05/2001 10:26:25 AM PST by 91B
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To: HAL9000
The only problem is that Geraldo Rivera is there. They'll probably only find another Coca Cola bottle.
21 posted on 12/05/2001 10:27:16 AM PST by P8riot
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To: MeeknMing
volley bump!
22 posted on 12/05/2001 10:39:46 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Sabertooth
I was wondering if I could have another "QikPik" hehehe.
23 posted on 12/05/2001 12:28:42 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Fulbright
this time of the year

Is it cold yet? Haven't heard. Did it snow yet? Don't think so. The Afghan winter is vastly overrated, both in severity and in duration.

24 posted on 12/05/2001 12:33:53 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: HAL9000
Gosh, where ARE all those fanatical jihadis when you need them? Fellas, fellas, hey where are you guys?
25 posted on 12/05/2001 12:42:40 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: RightWhale
Kabul is on the same latitude as Little Rock. I am sure it gets ugly at elevation and in the spring, with the atrocious road network they have.

The rest of the time, the climate is a lot better than it is in the upper Midwest.

26 posted on 12/05/2001 2:05:22 PM PST by Fulbright
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To: blondee123
>>>but he's not going to just sit in the cave awaiting the troops. <<<

Please, oh Lord please, make bin Laden put up a fight so someone - don't really care who - can plug him dead. I don't want to have to deal with him in any court system; civil, military, world or interplanatary.

27 posted on 12/05/2001 2:09:39 PM PST by HardStarboard
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To: Fulbright
I am sure it gets ugly at elevation

No doubt getting stuck in the mountains during a winter blast is no picnic.

For plain cold, it is -26 in Fairbanks today, no wind, but it is expected to be above zero this weekend. It's not bad at all if you don't have to deal with machinery.

28 posted on 12/05/2001 2:11:30 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: HAL9000
Pashtun commanders in Jalalabad said the Americans have also asked them to repair the runway at the Jalalabad airport, damaged during U.S. bombings last month when the Taliban still occupied the area.

"The Americans apparently want to bring fixed-wing planes for a possible evacuation of bin Laden and other suspected terrorists," said a local commander, Hazrat Ali.

I wonder if we already have him...

29 posted on 12/05/2001 4:10:27 PM PST by VMI70
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Seems like a nasty surprise could happen.

I'm afraid you may be right. I've had an uneasy feeling about this..... suspecting that they plan to use a dirty nuke... or ....have infected the caves with bio-warfare materials.

31 posted on 12/05/2001 5:54:07 PM PST by LaineyDee
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember
I don't forgive you. I am sick of running into this crap on every thread.
32 posted on 12/05/2001 6:03:03 PM PST by csmusaret
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To: RightWhale
Afghan winter is like Denver or Amarillo, Tex. You can go there in Dec or Jan and find it 60 deg F--

or you can freeze your you know what. All depends on what year, what day, what minute...

33 posted on 12/05/2001 6:09:24 PM PST by crystalk
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To: crystalk
Example, Dallas, Texas. Last week, in the 20's and sleeting. Today, 70 degrees. Go figure.
34 posted on 12/05/2001 6:16:02 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: HAL9000
He's not going to go quietly. Pray for our boys.
35 posted on 12/05/2001 6:34:19 PM PST by Calpublican
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm worried that he's fled the country and has a booby trap set for our troops.
36 posted on 12/05/2001 6:35:56 PM PST by Calpublican
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To: Calpublican
Now, I hope for their sakes he is there and they get him.

But I do not think he is, not anywhere NEAR Tora Bora, I think there is only a 51% chance he is in Afghanistan at all, and if so probably in the south and getting close to where Pak, Iran, and Afg. meet, in the desert...

(psychic alert)...

37 posted on 12/05/2001 7:08:00 PM PST by crystalk
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To: HAL9000
"The Americans apparently want to bring fixed-wing planes for a possible evacuation of bin Laden and other suspected terrorists," said a local commander, Hazrat Ali.

He's got that wrong, we just to give them flying lessons. Or maybe more correctly a flying test.

38 posted on 12/05/2001 7:14:02 PM PST by El Gato
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Big Bump from this Canteen junkie! Biggest addiction I have since I found FR!
39 posted on 12/05/2001 7:47:11 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: Calpublican
He's not going to go quietly.

I would be willing to go in after him even if he has the place on a deadman switch. The ones going in are vastly better qualified to do the job, but I would jump at the chance.

40 posted on 12/05/2001 8:24:03 PM PST by RightWhale
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