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WHO'S TRULY BEHIND THE ATTACK ON AMERICA
The Konformist ^ | 9-13-1 | Jim Marrs

Posted on 12/05/2001 12:00:36 PM PST by Magician

WHO'S TRULY BEHIND THE ATTACK ON AMERICA? Many people have compared the horrendous terrorist attack on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon in Washington to the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941. It is an apt comparison, though not for the reasons most people think.

For true students of history, it is now nearly beyond dispute that certain high-ranking officials in Washington, D. C. knew in advance of the Japanese intention to attack the U.S. fleet in Hawaii, yet did nothing to prevent it.

President Roosevelt, who at the time was blatantly violating the Neutrality Act, has been quoted as saying, "A Japanese attack on us.would certainly fulfill two of the most important requirements of our policy [to engage America in the war despite his pledge to keep us out of war.]"

Must the citizens of the United States wait another 50 years to learn that the 9-11 terrorist attack was allowed to take place just like Pearl Harbor?

Could such an appalling scenario possibly be true? Consider the comment of Kenneth Katzman, a terrorist expert with the Congressional Research Service, who told the Washington Post, "How nothing could have been picked up [by U.S. intelligence agencies regarding the coming attack] is beyond me."

Simple countermeasures against such an attack now seem apparent. For example, if the airlines would assigned just one armed plainclothes security man to each flight, this tragedy may have been averted since apparently the hijackers were armed only with knives or other type blades. So, how were they able to overpower a plane load of people and, more importantly, gain access to the cockpits? Who taught them to fly jumbo jets?

As in the case of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, the key to understanding the event lies not in who actually committed the violence but rather who was able to strip away the normal security protection.

Government and airline officials knew immediately that planes had been hijacked, yet no interceptors appeared in the air until after the attacks were completed. Who stripped away the normal security protection of America on 9-11?

At least in this most recent case, the government cannot blame the attack on a lone deranged individual, some Lee Harvey McVeigh. They must deal with a full-blown conspiracy, even though authorities were quick to point the finger at Osama bin-Laden. Any investigation of bin-Laden must look beyond the man, to the backers and financiers behind him.

The trail of the terrorists will most probably become murky, with plenty of accusations for all concerned. But one thing appears quite clear, the tragic events of 9-11 play right into the hands of persons with an agenda aimed at eroding American liberties and sovereignty.

After decades of bloated and misused defense budgets, there are now calls for doubling our defense allocation. In a time of rising recognition that the CIA is an agency never sought by the public and one which has brought so much condemnation on this nation, there are now cries for doubling its size and budget. If the chief security officer for a large company fails to protect one of its most prized assets, is he more likely to be fired or have his pay doubled?

Watch for more anti-terrorist legislation to further shred the U.S. Constitution. As we all scramble to deal with the effects of terrorism, are we in danger of losing our few remaining individual liberties? The media blithely reported that each of the cell phone calls made by doomed passengers on the hijacked airliners was recorded by the government. Doesn't this mean that all cell phone calls are, or can be, recorded? Whatever happened to telephone privacy? Where is the indignant outcry over such Big Brotherism.

But the biggest threat comes from the inner elite of the globalist societies. Within hours of the attack, the television and radio airwaves were full of ranking Council on Foreign Relations members, such as Henry Kissinger, Wesley Clark, Alexander Haig and Strobe Talbot. Talbot, President Clinton's deputy secretary of state, told Time magazine in 1992, "In the next century [today], nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority."

No matter who was speaking, their "party line" was the same: terrible tragedy, find and punish those responsible, stop terrorism. But, of course, since terrorists move between national boundaries, we must joined with other "freedom loving" nations and work with the United Nations and NATO to combat this new menace. This is a thinly-disguised effort to have a mourning and emotional American public stampeded into their New World Order.

Also, consider that we are distracted from a faltering economy [the current crisis may require more federal financial controls], a plummeting public opinion of George W. Bush and surging energy prices. Would leaders allow a public disaster to happen with an eye toward advancing their agendas? It's happened before. in Nero's burning Rome, Germany's gutted Reichstag, at Pearl Harbor and gain at the Gulf of Tonkin. While we should grieve for our losses, we must keep our heads. When the emotions of the moment run hot, we must remain cool and thoughtful so that we can find who is truly behind this attack on America.


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Jim Marrs wrote this piece two days after the 9-11 attack. Marrs is author of the definitive compendium of the evidence of a conspiracy in the JFK assassination.

Since this was written, we have learned that at least four repected foreign intelligence services told the CIA that the attack was coming, that it involved the highjacking of airliners, that Al Qaida was behind it, and that the operation was run by two bin Laden associates, Amad Mugniyeh and Ayman Al-Hawaziri. Although the foreign agencies couldn't tell the CIA what the target was, the CIA had already acquired (during the arrest of Ramsi Yousef and an associate) Al-Qaida's plan for the attack of the WTC towers by hijacked airliners.

The question becomes one of why didn't the CIA or FBI start bringing in the appropriate people for questioning? Why weren't potential Al-Qaida operatives detained?

One has to believe that either the CIA is so incompetent that the agency deserves to be disassembled, or the government is complicit in what happened.

1 posted on 12/05/2001 12:00:36 PM PST by Magician
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To: Magician
TIN-FOIL ALERT!!
2 posted on 12/05/2001 12:05:45 PM PST by bassmaner
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To: Magician
"How nothing could have been picked up [by U.S. intelligence agencies regarding the coming attack] is beyond me."

Until you remember who was President for the past eight years.

3 posted on 12/05/2001 12:09:03 PM PST by Maceman
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To: Magician
. . . , or the government is complicit in what happened.

And you will never get some folks to even entertain the idea that we are watching a stage(d) play.
No doubt about it, it was just Bin Laden and that's that. No other boogeymen.

I'd rather be a KOOK, thank you very much. Oh wait a minute . . . I am.

Uh, intermission is over. Time for the second half of the play.

Regards.

4 posted on 12/05/2001 12:09:47 PM PST by mancini
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To: Magician
Perhaps one should check the polls to see that those plumenting numbers are about 80% + %??? Also, we learned today through Vanity Fair that Clinton could have had all the information on Bin Landen he wanted, but REFUSED IT!! Where does the blame lie, with the Democrat President that put the nation to shame.
5 posted on 12/05/2001 12:10:33 PM PST by maeng
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To: Magician
Ah, yes, Jim Marrs...so, does he think the aliens did it?
6 posted on 12/05/2001 12:10:51 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: bassmaner
idiot.
7 posted on 12/05/2001 12:11:18 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: Magician
For true students of history, it is now nearly beyond dispute that certain high-ranking officials in Washington, D. C. knew in advance of the Japanese intention to attack the U.S. fleet in Hawaii, yet did nothing to prevent it.

This is utter bullshit. First, FDR did indeed want American involved in WWII, but not against the Japanese. FDR didn't care about what was going in Asia at the time. He wanted to attack Hitler. Second, though the U.S. did suspect that an attack by Imperial Japan was imminent, U.S. officials believed the attack would be aimed at the U.S.-owned Philipines, not Hawaii.

The author offers no evidence to support his viewpoint.

8 posted on 12/05/2001 12:12:22 PM PST by Heisenburger
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To: Magician
Another member of the Blame America First crowd.
10 posted on 12/05/2001 12:13:07 PM PST by RetiredArmy
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To: bassmaner
Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie
11 posted on 12/05/2001 12:13:29 PM PST by Junior
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To: Magician
WHO'S TRULY BEHIND THE ATTACK ON AMERICA

Well, are you going to tell us? Certainly would save a lot of time, don't you think? Until the time you can post some REAL information to back up this stupid drivel, and only then, could you please refrain from cluttering the internet landscape with garbage?

12 posted on 12/05/2001 12:14:55 PM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: bassmaner
Tin-Foil isn't thick enough for this kind of mindless drivel!
You need an Aluminium Umbrella at a minimum!!
13 posted on 12/05/2001 12:16:23 PM PST by HardStarboard
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To: Magician
nearly beyond dispute

Cute.  See "almost pregnant" in
Spin for Dummies.

One has to believe that either the CIA is so incompetent
that the agency deserves to be disassembled,

Works for me.

the government is
complicit in what happened.

A needlessly tin-hat leap of lunacy.

14 posted on 12/05/2001 12:17:16 PM PST by gcruse
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To: bassmaner
GOOSE-STEPPING GOVERNMENT SHILL ALERT!
15 posted on 12/05/2001 12:20:00 PM PST by Melinator
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To: Magician
Here we go - "tin foil alert" , "kook", "idiot" - the only one of the pinheads favorite derogatories you havent elicited within the first 10 posts is "anti-Semite" .. To parapharse an old proverb, "You can lead a donkey to water, but ........."
16 posted on 12/05/2001 12:20:15 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: Heisenburger

The author offers no evidence to support his viewpoint.

Suggest you bone up.  Read  "Day of Deceit" by
Robert B. Stinnett   ISBN 0-684-85339-6

17 posted on 12/05/2001 12:21:17 PM PST by gcruse
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To: gcruse
of course its lunacy - our governement is the good guys, right? Truth, justice and the American way? (and the tooth fairy, and the Easter bunny, and..........)
18 posted on 12/05/2001 12:21:20 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: All
When the emotions of the moment run hot, we must remain cool and thoughtful so that we can find who is truly behind this attack on America.

I think it was Jim Marrs. Or maybe Magician.

19 posted on 12/05/2001 12:21:52 PM PST by dead
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To: gcruse
According to Magician's research posted by him on FR last month, the Mossad warned the US weeks in advance and gave them the names of the ringleaders.....Amad Mugniyeh and Ayman Al-Hawaziri
20 posted on 12/05/2001 12:22:19 PM PST by Patria One
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To: Magician
PEOPLE ARE GETTING SMARTER by Barry Chamish

After eight lectures in New York, New Jersey and Toronto, I conclude that people are getting smarter. They demanded to know less about Rabin and more about New World Order this tour around.

Toronto comments:

* "Israeli biological and nuclear scientists are being knocked off one by one and this covert war is going unnoticed. A plane carrying scientists to Russia's biological warfare center at Novosibirsk was blown up over the Black Sea and no one questions that the Ukrainian missile that supposedly did the job was a hundred miles out of range. Then a Swissair Corsair crashes killing the head of Ichilov Hospital's Hematology department, as well as directors of the Hebrew University School Of Medicine and the Tel Aviv Public Health Department and not a word of suspicion is raised. After that, one of the country's most prominent nuclear scientists, Baruch Zinger is assassinated and still, no one is putting the pieces together. Your front line against nuclear and biological attacks is being picked off in a covert murder campaign and your government is taking no security precautions to stop the intellectual slaughter. Or if it is, your public is totally unaware of the daily danger to its most educated citizens."

* "Three suicide and car bombers make it to downtown Jerusalem and your media isn't questioning the security establishment? Think about this "breakdown." Each bombing requires about thirty people for surveillance, engineering, hideouts and more. Over a hundred backup people were required to make the operation work and the GSS (Shabak) had no intelligence beforehand? I don't buy it. It's a fair bet that you have traitors in the GSS withholding information from the army. You can count on the fact that there are Israeli plants who believe in this New World Order and are abetting the bloodshed."

* "I've done a little research into Shimon Peres' childhood and there's one item which has been overlooked that may explain everything. It turns out his father went to Palestine and left his wife back in Poland. He reportedly shacked up with an Arab woman and fathered children with her. That may not be the first time he had children with a gentile woman. In Poland during the 20s, Jewish children were sent to their own schools. Peres received his elementary school education at a Jesuit school."

* (From the same source. He phones Israel and is faxed an article from Maariv about the ownership of the PLO's public phone company Paltel. It is 40% owned by the Bin Laden family of Saudi Arabia and 40% by Arafat himself. BUT 2.46% of shares are owned by Shimon Peres). "Have a look at this Peres/Bin Laden business connection," he says.

New York:

I make a pilgrimage to Ground Zero. I've seen pictures of wartime Berlin and Hiroshima, but the devastation is more complete here. I view the wreckage from the fifth floor office of an acquaintance's office, then stare transfixed at the destruction of the remaining evidence from street level for an hour. When I return to my hotel, my face is beet red and blistered. There was something highly caustic, perhaps toxic, in the air.

* "They're hiding the real death figures. They've got it down to only 3200 now. Now I'll tell you why that can't be. Only one company released its fatality figures, Cantor Fitzgerald. They lost 700 employees working on four floors. Even accounting for their being on top floors, you take 220 storeys and do the math, you get a figure of 42,000. And that's just employees, not visitors. The New York Times prints whatever deceased they can collect through the obituaries and that's the only source of deaths available. Where is the official fatality list? It's been two months and no list of the dead has been published. After any other tragedy, the list is made public immediately. Why hasn't a list been compiled and released of the World Trade Center dead already?"

* "I knew the story of the plane hijackings was baloney when the Times published the, supposedly, only black box transcripts which survived. Four planes, and only one black box survived. Did you read the cockpit recording? It was straight out of Dragnet; 'Don't do anything stupid,' says the terrorist.

"But if you think that was contrived, look at the stupid story they told us about Flight 93. This was the plan that went wrong. To get the other three planes to crash into the World Trade Center and Pentagon, you had to override their autopilots. They were set from Logan and Newark to Los Angeles, and had to be switched off and the plane flown manually, or reset to the coordinates of their targets. And all the while this was happening, not one pilot activated the Mayday signal.

"However, something went wrong with Flight 93, and the plane kept flying west. There was a snafu and the autopilot wasn't overrided. So it was shot down 80 miles from Pittsburgh. It absolutely had to have been because parts of the tail were found eight miles from the nose. A plane can't crash land and thrust its tail eight miles backwards. Only a midair explosion can do that.

"So look at the scenario of heroism they paint to cover up the missile attack on the plane. They've got three terrorists with little box cutters gathering together a half dozen of the toughest passengers you'd find on any plane. One is a wrestler, the other a rugby player, the rest six feet tall and 190 pounds minimum. You've got the front line of the Green Bay Packers all together and no one rushes the little terrorists with their pint sized blades.

"Next, the terrorists decide to let the passengers call home on their cellphones. Sure, that makes sense. You're supposedly on the way to Washington, ninety minutes flying time away, to bomb the Capitol building, and you alert the entire defense establishment that you're coming. That's the way to make your mission a success alright.

"And in the final act of the drama, Rambo is heard on one phone telling the troops, 'Let's roll, boys.' And to make sure the public buys this ridiculous story, they roll out the pregnant wife and stick her on the same flight a few days later.

"Nothing about the scenario rings true because it didn't happen. If you want to get to the truth about what happened on the three planes which did hit their targets, start examining the one that missed."

Good advice from one of the many people who have wised up, we hope, in time.

The author's books, including, THE LAST DAYS OF ISRAEL are available through www.amazon.com, The new e-mail address for the 2nd edition of Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin is milt1@pop.gis.net The Hebrew and English editions are available from the author as well. Please visit http://www.webseers.com/rabin

The toll free numbers to inquire about all books are:

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ISRAEL - 1 800 RABINY 722

22 posted on 12/05/2001 12:24:03 PM PST by mancini
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To: Poohbah
Aliens did do it silly! ;-) ..............(illegal)
23 posted on 12/05/2001 12:24:18 PM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: Heisenburger
Day Of Deceit. Informative book. Read it and learn something.
24 posted on 12/05/2001 12:24:41 PM PST by spoosman
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To: thusevertotyrants
our governement is the good guys, right?

The CIA probably deserves being disbanded.
Or (the only other alternative given) the
govt is complicit in the bombings.

If these are the only alternatives that come to
mind, then you are indeed, looney.

25 posted on 12/05/2001 12:25:10 PM PST by gcruse
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"Senior officials from Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service, came to Washington last month to warn the CIA and the FBI that a cell of up to 200 terrorists was planning a major operation in America, according to a report in the London-based Sunday Telegraph on Sept. 17."
26 posted on 12/05/2001 12:26:19 PM PST by Patria One
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To: Patria One
Are you ready to accuse Bush of being behind the attack?
27 posted on 12/05/2001 12:26:53 PM PST by gcruse
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To: spoosman
will yall godless heathens please stop blaspheming the US government? And yall talkin ugly about FDR, why shame on you. Yall know he was our 2nd greatest president, right after Lincoln. If yall dont believe it, just read the newspapers, they done doed the poll theyselves .. This is AMERICA, dingdangit, and we're always good and always right, and if we're not, well then, refer back to rule one
28 posted on 12/05/2001 12:27:24 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: gcruse
..... well, so now I see Stevie Wonder is critiquing the way I dress
29 posted on 12/05/2001 12:29:15 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: gcruse
..... well, so now I see Stevie Wonder is critiquing the way I dress
30 posted on 12/05/2001 12:29:23 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: thusevertotyrants
..... well, so now I see Stevie Wonder is critiquing the way I dress

You haven't said anything substantive yet.
 And you can't outcynical me.  However,
 there is logic and there are lame oneliners.
 More of the former will require less of
 the latter on your part.

31 posted on 12/05/2001 12:33:57 PM PST by gcruse
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To: Joe Boucher
Re: bassmaner (add Poohbah)...you forgot to insert what type of idiot. My vote is for "useful".
32 posted on 12/05/2001 12:35:04 PM PST by american spirit
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To: maeng
Did you know that bin Laden was treated for diabetes by an American physician in an American Hospital in Dubai less than five months ago? Hmmm, now that would be July this year. Now didn't we know that bin Laden was a bad guy then? Who was the President?

Oh just one more, Who was the largest single bank roller for the Taliban this past year? Hint, the same one that it has been in all the other years.

33 posted on 12/05/2001 12:35:09 PM PST by scottiewottie
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To: thusevertotyrants
You have shown me the light. I now know that everything wrong is the U.S. government's fault. Why is it when I put two socks in the laundry I only get one back? The CIA, in concert with greedy corporations who make washing machines, are stealing them using underground tunnels connect to the machines. They then take them to their secret lab where they sew buttons on the sox and use them as sock puppets to augment the UN invasion force stationed in area 51.

In retrospect it is all so clear. I know the truth. It's mine, and no one else can take it from me!

34 posted on 12/05/2001 12:36:35 PM PST by Dat
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To: bassmaner
Maybe it's a combined effort! I can see where the Illuminati, the Council of Trent, the Bilderbergers, the Council On Foreign Relations, the U.S. State Dept., the Committee of 100, the Masons, the Knights of Columbus, the Kawanas Club, the Rotarians, the Shriners, the Lion's Club, the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Club Med, the Player's Club, the Slim Whitman Fan Club, the Alien Grays, the Alien Blacks, Bigfoot, the Yeti, the Abominable Snowman, and the Loch Ness Monster- could all save themselves a lot of time, and effort, if they joined forces.

I left out the U.N. because they're the ones that are REALLY behind the attack!

35 posted on 12/05/2001 12:37:16 PM PST by Destructor
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To: gcruse
Nevermind - The sneaky Japs attacked Pearl Harbor, and the great American Nation stepped in to destroy evil. Those darned red b**tards wouldve tried to take over the world if we hadnt shown em at the Bay of Pigs (oh wait, I meant "during the missile crisis"). And lastly, (in a droning monotone), Lee Harvey Oswald, acting on his own, killed JFK .. I pledge allegiance to the flag .......... There, am I a good American now?
36 posted on 12/05/2001 12:37:17 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: gcruse
Not me. I don't think Bush or the US government or our CIA had anything to do with it.
37 posted on 12/05/2001 12:38:23 PM PST by Patria One
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To: scottiewottie
Did you know that bin Laden was treated for diabetes by an American physician in an American Hospital in Dubai less than five months ago?

Debunked. Dubai says he wasn't in the country. Oh, and BTW, I've seen another version of this story that claims the meeting happened in October. I wish you guys would get your stories straight before posting them on FR.

38 posted on 12/05/2001 12:38:41 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Dat
laffing - you got it all wrong - the reason your dryer is eating your socks is cuz you ripped that little tag off your mattress -- see, they warned you not to do that
39 posted on 12/05/2001 12:38:53 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: mancini
I lost track, is Chamish a Good Jew or a KooK/Leftist/Commie Jew according to the know-it-all-chorus on FR? Maybe we should flag the expertswhoknoweverything andthey'llcallyouakookifyoudon'tagreewiththem folks to this thread. Get a Reading on it, maybe.
40 posted on 12/05/2001 12:39:14 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: scottiewottie
Oh, yeah, and while I'm at it, the story is that bin Laden was being treated for a kidney problem, not diabetes. But we're supposed to just lap up all this conspiracy crap when youse guys can't even get your stories straight...
41 posted on 12/05/2001 12:39:51 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: maeng
We're assuming that both the democrats and republicans don't ultimately have the same agenda; more power in the hands of the government. They're just taking different routes (in a kind of flanking maneuver) to achieve the same objective. One group will take away your freedoms using the environment as an excuse, the other will take them away using the threat of terrorism. The net effect is the same either way.
42 posted on 12/05/2001 12:40:01 PM PST by droberts
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To: american spirit
Ah, at least I am useful, as opposed to yourself.
43 posted on 12/05/2001 12:40:41 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Magician
"the government is complicit in what happened"

Pst! The earth is flat!

44 posted on 12/05/2001 12:40:43 PM PST by verity
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To: gcruse
Are you ready to accuse Bush of being behind the attack?

Given Patria One's brief history under this screen name at FR, it's either Bush or the Jews.

Count on it.

45 posted on 12/05/2001 12:40:49 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: droberts
YES!!!!!!! At least there's one man amongst the crowd of fools who has opened his eyes
46 posted on 12/05/2001 12:41:07 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: Dat
Why is it that every, single conspiracy thread on FR has a title in caps!!! It doesn't exactly help convince "non-believers" that you guys aren't actually wacky...
47 posted on 12/05/2001 12:41:24 PM PST by RoughDobermann
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To: Destructor
the Alien Grays

I can personally vouch for this group.

They were otherwise engaged.

48 posted on 12/05/2001 12:41:34 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Magician
Bert is our man, er,..puppet.
49 posted on 12/05/2001 12:42:46 PM PST by TADSLOS
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To: Heisenburger
Additionally, I just read that although we had broken Magic, we hadn't broken all of it and a lot of papers were not even decoded until after Pearl Harbor.
50 posted on 12/05/2001 12:42:56 PM PST by The Right Stuff
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