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MAD MARY BERRY
New York Post ^ | 12/08/01

Posted on 12/08/2001 12:17:09 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:02:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

December 8, 2001 -- The national embarrassment known as Mary Frances Berry, chairwoman of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, has outdone herself.

Yesterday, Cleveland labor lawyer Peter Kirsanow was sworn in to replace commission member Victoria Wilson. But Berry refuses to recognize Kirsanow; she won't even let any other commission member refer to him as "commissioner."


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1 posted on 12/08/2001 12:17:09 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
It's going to be interesting to see what comes of this. I hope GW has the cojones to toss this race-hustling socialist panderer out on her ear. Of course, then she'll just go get a job somewhere teaching American youth about how racist and terrible the country is.
2 posted on 12/08/2001 12:53:28 AM PST by Jonathon Spectre
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To: kattracks
Who is in ultimate control of the Civil Rights Commission? If Congress is that body, then they should quietly ask Ms. Berry to resign.

The members of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, if they want to be viable, should also ask the little dictator to step down. I don't think American government allows this sort of autocratic behavior. At the very least, she has become what the commission is to disallow. Contact your congressman today; misrepresentation in government is not an option.

3 posted on 12/08/2001 1:03:00 AM PST by yoe
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To: kattracks
As a matter of fact, tell the commission yourself:

Complaint Referral Service
Telephone:
1-800-552-6843 or (202) 376-8513
E-mail:
ocre01@attglobal.net

5 posted on 12/08/2001 1:12:36 AM PST by yoe
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To: kattracks
Ms Berry is not popular among all leftists, either.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/12/berry/

6 posted on 12/08/2001 1:27:05 AM PST by Truthsayer20
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To: Truthsayer20
Ms Berry is not popular among all leftists, either.

That is because there are some democrats out there that don't support race-baiting politics. Why they still vote the way they do is beyond me.

7 posted on 12/08/2001 1:36:49 AM PST by meyer
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To: kattracks
Just get rid of the entire commission.
8 posted on 12/08/2001 1:53:34 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3
Just get rid of the entire commission.

Come on, W. The country would support you.

9 posted on 12/08/2001 1:58:00 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: kattracks
Kat, this little crisis is an obvious contrivance of an increasingly desperate Democrat Party. The President is doing remarkably well. He has the support ... not just in his war prosecution but overall in his duties .... of a vast majority of the American people. Including, for the first time, African Americans.

This little drama has been staged to sucker the Bush Administration, and their federal Marshals, into a camera ready scenario where Minorities of color - on an otherwise irrelevant civil rights commission - get huge coverage as they are forcibly ejected in a 1950's era Jim Crow banishment. What transparent, evil crap. That's the way they play. Bush is too smart to bite on this ... he'll address this through the courts, Berry and her race baiters will lose SLOOOWLY, and throughout the process the Commission will be completely paralyzed. A perfect outcome. Nice try McAullife, you cockroach. Corporations all. Started and operated by the "rich".

The Democrats will do ANYTHING to smear Bush and create the animus needed among their constitutency groups to hold the Senate and take the House next November. ANYTHING. But it isn't working. Everyone who has unfortunately joined the jobless ranks over the past year don't buy the anti-corporation, anti-rich class warfare spewed by Daschele and his dwarves ... these folks WERE employed by corporations, they KNOW why they are unemployed, and they realize that their personal net worths began a freefall a year or more before Bush took office. They are waiting for High-Tech to begin growing and hiring again, and they will support any plan to free up these firms to expand their operations. They're being covered by COBRA or an employed spouse's health plan. They don't see a future on the government dole, and Daschele and Gephardt do not talk to them with their divisive bile. They WANT to be rehired by Nortel, GE, AT&T, UAL, Lucent, Worldcom, Motorola ... etc. etc. etc.

The lazy idiots, career cronies and professional identity victims among us will always be Democrats. "Eff" 'em. The GOP has only one major vulnerability going into the 2002 elections: Bush needs to craft a bully pulpit plan to pre-emptively block the Democrats' last best gambit .... fear mongering, beyond all shame, any reform of the Social Security system. The Democrats want to fraudulently scare our elderly grandparents, parents and the most vulnerable among us. It's time to wage war against the political terrorism of American liberals.

10 posted on 12/08/2001 2:14:00 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Joseph Warren
Just sent my e-mail telling them that I will never buy another book published under the Random House label until Victoria Wilson resigns.
11 posted on 12/08/2001 2:35:13 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: ArneFufkin
You are absolutely correct in that Ms. Berry was attempting to create a photo-op scandal for the democrats. She even dared them to send in federal marshals. Interestingly, Ms. Clinton is scheduled to be on "Meet the Press" this Sunday.

They probably thought there would be a big flap-doodle and they could play the noble oppressed people for the cameras, which I am CERTAIN were ready and waiting. But as you said, the President and his people are too smart to take the bait.

We will be totally vindicated if Ms. Clinton cancels her Sunday appearance. Ha!

12 posted on 12/08/2001 3:01:23 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: tom paine 2
I believe it was Knopf who gave Hillary Clinton the big advance on her autobiography. Or maybe it was Bubba.

Either way, the publishing company will lose big, big money. Nobody will buy a book from either.

Don't make an issue of this situation. Don't send e-mails. Don't care a whit about this. These people are corrupt, but they are now harmless. Let Victoria litigate the issue to her heart's desire. The amount of personal investment a troll like Victoria Wilson will spend to assert her legal right to that chair: SQUAT. She's a detestable phony.

Let's get used to these schemes. The race baiters need to get black Americans hating the GOP and George Bush again. They tried to engineer a high profile confrontation here, and after the intervention of Federal Marshals into the fray, Berry and Wilson could go in front of Katie and Charlie and Bryant and Brian and Larry and Paula and all the rest and talk about "lynchings" of their due process and characters. Pretty evil stuff, but that's what these ruthless creeps are about. Bush won't bite.

13 posted on 12/08/2001 3:07:46 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Joseph Warren
click here:

knopfpublicity@randomhouse.com

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14 posted on 12/08/2001 3:11:56 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Jonathon Spectre
I hope GW has the cojones to toss this race-hustling socialist panderer out on her ear.

If GW prevails in court, Berry will be stripped of her majority and thus her power.

15 posted on 12/08/2001 3:15:07 AM PST by angkor
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To: yoe
the "Civil Rights Commission"

ocre01@attglobal.net

.

Complaint Referral Service
Telephone: 1-800-552-6843 or (202) 376-8513
E-mail: ocre01@attglobal.net

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16 posted on 12/08/2001 3:15:48 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: angkor

What you talkin' 'bout Willis?

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17 posted on 12/08/2001 3:20:24 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: kattracks
Disband the Commission and return it to the States to decide. Perhaps the "beneficiaries" will acquire their own states - MS,ALA etc that they wanted. Better yet, Mass., NY NJ and Detroit (LOL)
18 posted on 12/08/2001 3:20:59 AM PST by Henchman
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To: ArneFufkin
"They're being covered by COBRA or an employed spouse's health plan. They don't see a future on the government dole, and Daschele and Gephardt do not talk to them with their divisive bile. They WANT to be rehired by Nortel, GE, AT&T, UAL, Lucent, Worldcom, Motorola ... etc. etc. etc."

You are talking to me in language I understand. I am studying for my CCIE lab exam in February with the hope that I will be hired back into the computer networking field when the economy recovers. We are paying out of pocket for coverage through my wife's employer while she is on extended maternity leave. There must be a lot of us out there in roughly the same boat.

19 posted on 12/08/2001 3:27:20 AM PST by Montfort
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To: angkor
If GW prevails in court, Berry will be stripped of her majority and thus her power.

Correct.

The guy who said "If Bush has the cajones to throw her ..." Uh uh. That's not guts, that's foolishness.

The ONLY reason that the Democrats have any leverage against George W. Bush right now is that the scumbag Jim Jeffords took the chairmanship bribe of the Senate Democrats and turned traitor. I was sickened the other day when guys like Daschele, Reid, Schumer etc. gave Strom Thurmond a standing ovation. They had pinned every strategy and hope throughout the first five months of this session around his death. The Senate Democrats shitcanning seniority and giving away the Chairmanship of a committee in exchange for the defection from the GOP caucus of a Vermont pantload was a desperate move prompted by Thurmond's unwillingness to conveniently die for them. Senate Democrats are universally pr*cks. Not a good one among them (Feingold ... uhhh ... no).

The underestimation of George W. Bush just keeps on keeping on. Especially here on Free Republic. Bush's political instincts are remarkably exact, and his advisors are world class smart and honest. The desperation of the Democrats reveals their understanding of this. Reagan redux - unbeatable man - the worst nightmare imaginable for the liberal elite scum. Wait till Cheney takes his well-deserved retirement and Condi Rice runs with him in 2004 ....

20 posted on 12/08/2001 3:37:23 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Henchman
Exactly.
21 posted on 12/08/2001 3:40:24 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Montfort
Bless you and your family! The economy IS recovering. Networking is basic communication; communication is commerce; and commerce unites everyone in a market and creates prosperity. We Americans do business better and more efficiently than anyone in world history. Your skillset is valuable to this effort, and your resolve will bring great rewards to you and your family. Why not? This is America, dammit!!! Hang in there ... I know a LOT of folks in the high tech bidness and everything is looking up. The recession was in July 00 - August 01, and everyone who's out pounding the sidewalk understands that. The WTC attack just delayed the rebirth for 6 months or so. We're out of the rapids, believe me.

We shouldn't be here in the first place. An incredibly greedy and dishonest dotcom scam was perpetrated on American workers and investors by a elite cadre of pump and dump IPO houses, 401K fund managers and (IMO) disreputable business executives. Most were supporters of Bill Clinton, if I recall. The attack on Microsoft by the Clinton Justice Department was the payoff for all the support the Hambrechts and Adobes and blah blah gave Bubba in his 96 re-election. The destruction of NASDAQ can be EXACTLY traced to the day that Joel Klein and that idiot senile judge ruled against Microsoft. EXACTLY. Look it up. NASDAQ was at or around 4200 at the time. Jim Barksdale and Scott MacNeally can kiss my ass.

22 posted on 12/08/2001 3:54:43 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: kattracks
MAD MARY BERRY..run Marion run......
23 posted on 12/08/2001 4:17:36 AM PST by exmoor
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To: Elle Bee
LOL!

That's a lovely picture of Oscar Robertson. Or ... is it comedian George Wallace?

I'm going to guess that "primping for my male suitor" has never been part of her THINGS TO DO reminder list.

25 posted on 12/08/2001 4:20:12 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Elle Bee
As George Carlin said so well ... "her face could knock a buzzard off a sh*twagon".
26 posted on 12/08/2001 4:26:02 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: kattracks
This is about more than keeping current control. She is also poised to fight another battle on when her term expires. She is convinced it expires January 26th, right after the inauguration of the 2004 winner. Bush is convinced it expires in December.

She wants a shot to try and get Bush defeated so that a democrat president will reappoint her. With The proper interpretation of when her term ends, it doesn't matter who wins in 2004, she is out either way.
27 posted on 12/08/2001 4:29:25 AM PST by Freeper 007
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To: Montfort
Good luck on your lab. I'm trying to get ready to do mine in the spring.

PogySailor - CCNP/CCDP

28 posted on 12/08/2001 4:49:25 AM PST by PogySailor
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To: Dante3
Sound like a plan.
29 posted on 12/08/2001 4:52:46 AM PST by AFF
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To: tom paine 2
I have done the same.
31 posted on 12/08/2001 5:12:55 AM PST by ThinkingMan
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To: Elle Bee
har
32 posted on 12/08/2001 5:21:07 AM PST by GuillermoX
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To: yoe
Who is in ultimate control of the Civil Rights Commission? If Congress is that body, then they should quietly ask Ms. Berry to resign.

That is my question..A failure to be responsive to the President or congress should mean a defunding and dismissal of the current committee ..we have enough "watchers" that do not use tax payers money

33 posted on 12/08/2001 5:22:36 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: kattracks
Is she related to the crack smoking former mayor of D.C.?
34 posted on 12/08/2001 5:26:12 AM PST by fightu4it
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To: kattracks
Hey, look at THIS. Schizophrenia linked to racism. Now president Bush has a reason to replace Ms Berry.
35 posted on 12/08/2001 5:33:11 AM PST by spald
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To: Elle Bee


My thoughts exactly.
37 posted on 12/08/2001 5:37:15 AM PST by July 4th
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To: Jonathon Spectre
Of course, then she'll just go get a job somewhere teaching American youth about how racist and terrible the country is.

She is already doing that - at the University of Pennsylvania. From their web site:

MARY FRANCES BERRY has been the Geraldine R. Segal Professor of American Social Thought and Professor of History since 1987. She received her Ph.D. in History from the University of Michigan and JD degree from the University of Michigan Law School. She taught the History of American Law, and the History of Law and Social Policy. She also advises students in African American History.

You can reach her, if you'd like, at:

mfberry@sas.upenn.edu

38 posted on 12/08/2001 5:53:47 AM PST by jackbill
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To: DWSUWF
sho now!!
39 posted on 12/08/2001 5:56:24 AM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: kattracks
bump for humans
40 posted on 12/08/2001 6:14:15 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: NAMMARINE
she is APPOINTED! not elected

she can be UNAPPOINTED = FIRED any time.

But get this -- Miss Berry will argue that her commission's role as 'watchdog' or 'overseer' inherently grants her independence and insulation from political interference, therefore creating a kind of quasi-independent branch, akin to the Federal-judiciary.

Really -- that's her position -- that the founders THOUGHT there were three branches of governemtn, but there are really FOUR -- and she's the fourth!!

42 posted on 12/08/2001 6:46:37 AM PST by WL-law
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To: jackbill
Love those Initials -->> M F B

mfberry@sas.upenn.edu

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43 posted on 12/08/2001 6:49:27 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Joseph Warren
I was soooooooo happy to see this in the newspaper. Justification for the rest of us who feel the same way but don't own a printing press.....
44 posted on 12/08/2001 6:49:29 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: July 4th
He should be appointed to replace Miss Berry.
45 posted on 12/08/2001 6:54:33 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: kattracks
See this thread also for some good information and discussion on Mizzz Berry:

Bury the B***h

46 posted on 12/08/2001 6:56:53 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Elle Bee
The culmination of Johnson's 'great society', now mutating into clintonian socialism.
47 posted on 12/08/2001 6:57:40 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: kattracks
She has no legal basis for any of this, of course - except an opinion from lawyers who work for her.

not true

Sec. 1975. Establishment of Commission


48 posted on 12/08/2001 9:26:24 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: yoe
Thanks for the mail addy. Sent her a "nice" little message.
49 posted on 12/08/2001 9:39:00 AM PST by blackbart1
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To: kattracks
That term ended Nov. 29.

Does anyone else think that Berry will get slammed in court?

50 posted on 12/08/2001 9:42:07 AM PST by Salvation
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