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We Were Soldiers -- The New Mel Gibson Epic
Quicktime Movie Trailers ^ | 12/09/01 | N/A

Posted on 12/09/2001 2:27:55 PM PST by Rocko

This is the trailer for the eagerly awaited Mel Gibson epic. Didn't see it posted before. The book is excellent -- but will the film be worthy?


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Can't wait.
1 posted on 12/09/2001 2:27:55 PM PST by Rocko
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To: Rocko
I love Mel Gibson's movies (almost all of them). Does anyone know if he is a leftist militant off the screen, like so many other of the "stars"?
2 posted on 12/09/2001 2:40:03 PM PST by germanshepherd
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To: germanshepherd
He is a conservative who has taught his seven children how to shoot!
3 posted on 12/09/2001 2:41:38 PM PST by elephantlips
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To: germanshepherd
From what I've been told. He's a staunch Catholic (hence the 7 children) whose dad left America in the 30s over the New Deal. He's no Ben Affleck or Tom Hanks if that's what you're looking for.
5 posted on 12/09/2001 2:46:36 PM PST by Bogey78O
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To: Bogey78O
He's a staunch Catholic (hence the 7 children)

He's a traditionalist Catholic...attends the Tridentine (Latin) Mass exclusively.

Taken all together, Mel would make most of the people on this board look like Clintonistas!

6 posted on 12/09/2001 2:50:56 PM PST by KJMorgan
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To: Rocko
i remember reading about the battle of Ia Drang in the paper when it happened, just thirteen. How memories remain. I plan on seeing it.
7 posted on 12/09/2001 2:52:44 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: KJMorgan
Yeah I heard the Latin thing but I'd only got that from one place so I wasn't sure if it was true.
8 posted on 12/09/2001 2:55:10 PM PST by Bogey78O
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To: Bogey78O
His father uprooted his entire family from NY in the 60's to keep his older sons from going to Viet Nam.
Mel was born in NY and once aspired to the priesthood.
Mel is a staunch conservative, I've read a lot about him and have seen him interviewed several times.
9 posted on 12/09/2001 2:58:31 PM PST by mystery-ak
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To: germanshepherd
"I love Mel Gibson's movies (almost all of them). Does anyone know if he is a leftist militant off the screen, like so many other of the "stars"?"

He's seriously Conservative and seriously pro-life. I like 'im. :) He and I are exactly the same age and have the same number of children (I'm pretty sure he has seven......).

Now........if only I had his looks, talent, money, etc., etc., etc..............

10 posted on 12/09/2001 2:58:36 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Rocko
I highly recommend reading the book first. LTG Hal Moore's first hand account is a gripping read. You won't be able to put the book down. I hope the movie is loyal to the book.
11 posted on 12/09/2001 3:04:45 PM PST by TADSLOS
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To: germanshepherd
I love Mel Gibson's movies (almost all of them). Does anyone know if he is a leftist militant off the screen, like so many other of the "stars"?

Not even close, my man. Mel is a HARDCORE Catholic conservative although not at all politically active. He got in trouble a few years abck for deriding homosexuality during an interview in Spain. He offered to raise money for Pat Buchanan's 1992 run (but apparently Bay played it wrong and turned him off). He is probably Hollywood's only paleoconservative.

12 posted on 12/09/2001 3:06:04 PM PST by ouroboros
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To: germanshepherd
Not only is he not a leftist militant off screen; he is a devout, and I mean devout, Catholic. He had Mass said everyday on the set of Braveheart, and he does not believe in artifical birth control; how's that for being to the right?

And the best part of all is that he lives his life according to his beliefs, and rarely, if ever, talks about it. A doer he is; a windbag he ain't.

13 posted on 12/09/2001 3:06:08 PM PST by Aedammair
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To: Rocko
In my last two years in the Army, I got to personally know Sgt. Ernie Savage, of the "Lost Platoon," featured in "We Were Soldiers..." In fact, he autographed my copy.

I hope the movie does him justice...

14 posted on 12/09/2001 3:23:38 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Rocko
bump for later reference while I insttall updated quicktime software ...
15 posted on 12/09/2001 3:32:28 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: germanshepherd
Mel is a pro-lifer (go Mel!) who has been quoted as saying, "Feminists don't like me, and I don't like them!"

Mel is cool.

16 posted on 12/09/2001 3:48:55 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Bogey78O
Yea, Hollywood really hates this guy. They can't crush him like they've done so many other conservatives because he is such a box office draw.
17 posted on 12/09/2001 3:49:49 PM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: Rocko
Man, having a 56K modem stinks when trying to see this. Took about an hour to download the upgrade to QuickTime. (After a broken connection.) I've been online for over half an hour waiting for the trailer to fully download to my PC. I'll have to sign on later to see the second half.

I am really, really happy that the VietNam war is finally, finally getting some cinematic treatment to tell this story.

18 posted on 12/09/2001 5:16:09 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
BUMP!
19 posted on 12/09/2001 5:18:47 PM PST by RonDog
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To: KJMorgan
I don't know if Mel is still a staunch Catholic, but I met his sister (or that's probably "one" of his sisters), and she was a staunch, staunch Catholic. (Boy, did he get all the looks! LOL)

When I said that I'd left the Catholic Church, she just rolled her eyes, looked up, and said, "Ah, another victim of Vatican II!" Definitely traditionalist since she insisted there were only a few places in the U.S. she could live due to the church problem.

20 posted on 12/09/2001 5:22:40 PM PST by joathome
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To: RonDog
From ALOHA RONNIE's profile page:
" We Were Soldiers" IA DRANG Battle in Viet Nam

"We Were Soldiers.." IA Drang Battle THREAD II

'WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE...& YOUNG'...4 FEEEDOM


22 posted on 12/09/2001 5:25:11 PM PST by RonDog
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To: Rocko
I've got QT-5, but I must be doing something wrong. Neither this, nor any trailers i've tried to download recently has worked. Can anyone be of assistance? I'd appreciate it.
I'm using a 700-mhz machine with Windows 98.
23 posted on 12/09/2001 5:28:57 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: germanshepherd
The one blot on his record is that damn Lethal Weapon (II?) movie which depicted "cop killer" bullets penetrating a bulldozer blade.

On the whole, though, a great fellow.

24 posted on 12/09/2001 5:31:18 PM PST by Tony in Hawaii
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To: elephantlips
He is a conservative who has taught his seven children how to shoot!

EXACTLY

25 posted on 12/09/2001 5:40:12 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Rocko
Comes out on my birthday. Happy Birthday to me!

I, too, can hardly wait!

27 posted on 12/09/2001 5:45:22 PM PST by dpa5923
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To: Obey The D
Walker should be executed before Christmas.

I, sir, will second that motion! Hang the bastard!

28 posted on 12/09/2001 5:46:40 PM PST by dpa5923
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To: Rocko
Mel Gibson's Next Movie (A Winner!!)
Posted on 01/05/2001 13:01:07 PST by Mr.Clark

Morgan Stanley security chief feared dead (Notable Vietnam Vet)
Posted on 10/23/01 8:11 AM Pacific by VOA

‘The bravest man I ever knew’
Posted on 10/3/01 4:53 PM Pacific by Gamecock


Rick Rescorla

Our friend and comrade Rick Rescorla (pictured above)
was head of security for Morgan Stanley at the World Trade
Center and was killed when Tower 2 collapsed - -
Full Story

Official 'We Were Soldiers' Movie Site OPEN
View the film's preview

from www.LZXray.com

29 posted on 12/09/2001 5:46:55 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

30 posted on 12/09/2001 5:49:39 PM PST by RonDog
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To: doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; DLfromthedesert; PatiPie; flamefront; onyx; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Irma...
If you listen to Hugh Hewitt, or read his commentaries,
this PING list is for YOU!

Please post your comments, and BUMP!

(If you want OFF - or ON - my "Hugh Hewitt PING list" - please let me know.)

31 posted on 12/09/2001 5:51:52 PM PST by RonDog
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To: Rocko
Bump
For
Mel
32 posted on 12/09/2001 6:00:52 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Sabertooth; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Travis McGee
ping
33 posted on 12/09/2001 6:02:17 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Rick Rescorla
Our friend and comrade Rick Rescorla (pictured above)
was head of security for Morgan Stanley at the World Trade Center and was killed
when Tower 2 collapsed - -


How sad.
I'd seen that photo of Rescorla for YEARS...it surfaced on every Memorial Day, June 6th,
July 4th, or other major holiday when the "Honor the Military" theme would arise.
And I hadn't a clue who he was.

So, as a long-time OK, I bump for Rescorla: as he earned both a bachelor's degree and
law degree at the University of Oklahoma on the G.I.Bill ...after he became a
modern-day legend in Vietnam.

Rescorala, who came to our shores from the United Kingdom, was just about
a one-man argument for keeping "the golden door" open, even if we're more cautious
after 9-11.
34 posted on 12/09/2001 6:05:26 PM PST by VOA
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To: facedown
ping
35 posted on 12/09/2001 6:06:18 PM PST by sistergoldenhair
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To: RonDog
Wow! Thanks Ron. I love Mel Gibson, and I like his movies, too. :-)
36 posted on 12/09/2001 6:13:21 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
The trailer says "From the makers of 'Braveheart' - can't wait!
37 posted on 12/09/2001 6:18:47 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Excellent book, can't wait for the movie, especially with Mel!
38 posted on 12/09/2001 6:19:25 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: RonDog
Thanks, RonDog. I look forward to seeing this one!
39 posted on 12/09/2001 6:20:45 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Ping!
40 posted on 12/09/2001 6:22:25 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: Rocko; RonDog; ALOHA RONNIE
The book is excellent -- but will the film be worthy?

As an humble civilian who missed the festivities in Vietnam by about two years...
and knowing how heralded films often tank...I will still tell you that here in the
Los Angeles area, we've gotten good reports.

Hugh Hewitt, a constitutional law professor AND great talk show host, has mentioned
rumors that Dubya and Karl Rove have seen clips of this film...and love it.

So, cross your fingers and hope for the best. With Mel Gibson aboard, I suspect it won't
disappoint...and might just be awesome.

As for this specific film, I highly anticipate Greg Kinnear as one of the
helicopter pilots that relieved/re-supplied the embattled troops, even when the
air-rescue units would not fly into the battle-zone.
(Trust me..."ALOHA RONNIE", who participated in this battle will correct me if
I exaggerate.)
When I heard Kinnear was in the film, at first I cringed...then realized it probably
is a BRILLIANT "casting against type".
If there is a chance for an actor to outdo Tom Hanks as the happy, civilized "citizen soldier"
who astounds himself (and other) in h-ll, then this would be the role.

As per my Rescoral tribute in an earlier post...I bet someone connected with the
production of this film (as great as it may be) is kicking themselves for cutting
Rescorla's story from the script, even though he took up a good chunk (30 pages?)
of the book.

I just hope Rescorla and other folks who get left out of the film story get noticed somehow.

And one final note. Although I have (shame on me) not read the book, my understanding
is that the tone of the book is one that looks at the participants on both side of the
ferocious engagement.
So, although I have no specific information on this, I would not be suprised if we
see some of the battle from the perspective of the adversaries.
41 posted on 12/09/2001 6:23:29 PM PST by VOA
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To: germanshepherd
Mr. Gibson is also simpatico to homeschoolers.
42 posted on 12/09/2001 6:29:40 PM PST by bimmer
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To: RonDog

Thank you. Thank you very much.


43 posted on 12/09/2001 6:31:06 PM PST by jo6pac
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To: VOA
the festivities in Vietnam

?

44 posted on 12/09/2001 6:35:40 PM PST by THEUPMAN
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To: jo6pac
Thank you. Thank you very much.

(Picture of The King [Elvis] in uniform during his two years in the U.S. Army)

While we are honoring good Americans on this thread...and noting the
recent observance of the Sixtieth Anniversary of The Attack Of Pearl Harbor...
this would be a good time for fellow posters/lurkers to confirm/deny a story I've heard.

Is it true that Elvis paid a substatial part of the cost of the Battleship Arizona Memorial
from the proceeds of some benefit concerts that he did?

Yes...diverting a bit from the movie topic...but just wondering.
45 posted on 12/09/2001 6:40:16 PM PST by VOA
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To: THEUPMAN
the festivities in Vietnam
?


THEUPMAN,
I apologize if that term offends.
I use it because I knew a couple of Vietnam Era Vets in Oklahoma City and they
would use that term in a sense of irony. I guess they used it as a polite euphemism for
the kind of environment they really experienced.

If I offended you or anyone else, I'm sorry. I wasn't meaning to be flippant.
46 posted on 12/09/2001 6:44:33 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA
I don't know, VOA, but it wouldn't surprise me. He loved this country.
47 posted on 12/09/2001 6:47:32 PM PST by jo6pac
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To: Obey The D
"Walker should be executed..."

Yes, but...

"...before Christmas."

Depends what Christmas yer speakin' of...it won't be this one.

FReegards...MUD

48 posted on 12/09/2001 7:04:55 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
They're playing your song amigo.
49 posted on 12/09/2001 7:09:44 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: VOA; jo6pac
You are right about Elvis. See:
Honolulu Star-Bulletin

50 posted on 12/09/2001 7:41:05 PM PST by RonDog
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