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The great Koran con trick
New Statesman (U.K.) ^ | 12/10/2001 | Martin Bright

Posted on 12/10/2001 6:58:49 AM PST by Pokey78

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To: DonQ
interesting
42 posted on 12/10/2001 10:58:50 AM PST by japaneseghost
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To: hogwaller
To your three suppositions I'd add a fourth:

(4) Our weapons are better

43 posted on 12/10/2001 11:02:10 AM PST by AGAviator
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To: DonQ
Apparently it was decided, under one of the Caliphs, to impose one standard Arabic text as the universal text, and destroy any variant manuscripts. Occasionally someone finds a scrap of one of those other versions.

Expanding on the original post from the Atlantic Monthly

45 posted on 12/10/2001 11:35:11 AM PST by dread78645
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To: Pokey78
BUMP
46 posted on 12/10/2001 11:39:47 AM PST by Aurelius
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To: AGAviator
If you want start with fraud, start with the fairy tale that the Creator is only concerned with a small minority of the world's population and has deeded them a piece of land in perpetuity.

Since a large group of zionists were secular your assertion has little relevance to them. And since you're a Muslim shill I have little concern about your Islamic attack on Judeo-Christian concepts. Why are you posting anyway? You hate Free Republic as you stated to this Musli site:

How about staying off of Free Republic. They really, truly are shit. Why not find a site that truly is dedicated to truth and logic in the Middle East. Even on its best day, Free Republic is a place of vile and inane mud-slinging.

To: republic@muslimamerica.net

From: AGAviator@@@.@@@

Date: 10-15-01>/i>

47 posted on 12/10/2001 12:08:12 PM PST by Lent
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To: Lent
Please tell me how you found AGAviator's post on the other chatroom. Got an url? thanks
48 posted on 12/10/2001 12:14:27 PM PST by japaneseghost
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To: japaneseghost
No idea. Someone gave it to me by freepmail.
49 posted on 12/10/2001 12:22:21 PM PST by Lent
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To: dennisw
  The news that a recent scientific paper on the common genetic roots of Jews and Palestinians had been suppressed by learned journals, because of the political sensitivity of its conclusions, made for depressing reading.

I had read about this recent fuss, and the reasons for pulling the article have been distorted in several reports, including one by the magazine's editor. There were objections because this article, despite its scientific topic, included highly charged political comments such as referring to Israelis presence as "occupation". But the genetic bond between Jews and Arabs is neither a surprise nor offensive to Jews; it confirms what the Bible says about the descent of both Isaac and Ishmael from Abraham.

Someone else posted this:
  If you want start with fraud, start with the fairy tale that the Creator is only concerned with a small minority of the world's population and has deeded them a piece of land in perpetuity.

Yes, if you're talking about Jews, you're talking about a piece of real estate about the size of New Jersey. But it's all the Jews wanted. On the other hand, Moslems not only made it clear that they felt it was their destiny to conquer the earth, but they keep track of every patch of ground they ever took by force, which includes chunks of Spain and Austria, ... and they've made it clear that they want every inch of that land back in their clutches again.

50 posted on 12/10/2001 12:33:44 PM PST by DonQ
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To: Lent
Why are you posting anyway?

One of your friends pinged me. If you don't like it, take it up with him.

51 posted on 12/10/2001 12:45:33 PM PST by AGAviator
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Lent to AGAviator: 'How about staying off of Free Republic.'

Yeah, AG. On Free Republic, some of us aren't really free to have an opinion .... at least in the opinion of the 'other' some.

Lent to AGAviator: Even on its best day, Free Republic is a place of vile and inane mud-slinging.'

Its only vile, inane mud-slinging when it doesn't parrot the chosen dogma.

52 posted on 12/10/2001 12:47:06 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: Lent
your Islamic attack on Judeo-Christian concepts

Like the "Declaration of Independence" hadith?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, and are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights,"

Or Mullah George Washington?

"The nation which indulges towards another [nation] a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest."
Farewell Address, 1789

So according to you, America is an Islamic country.

53 posted on 12/10/2001 12:50:16 PM PST by AGAviator
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
Lent to AGAviator: Even on its best day, Free Republic is a place of vile and inane mud-slinging.'

Don't ascribe a quote to me which was from him. Otherwise you yourself are engaging in fraud. Simple enough?

54 posted on 12/10/2001 12:51:26 PM PST by Lent
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To: denydenydeny
You got them on the buzzwords. Lefties love to speak with buzzwords where what they say has little meaning but communicates a sensibility and emotion of being on the same "team" with the reader.
55 posted on 12/10/2001 12:53:02 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Lent; AGAviator
I missed the part where you allegedly quote him. How about providing a link to the musli website and giving some kind of evidence that it was AGAviator who made those comments. Otherwise you are engaging in a fraud.
56 posted on 12/10/2001 12:56:37 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: Lent
republic@musliamerica.net is a fraud.
57 posted on 12/10/2001 1:01:40 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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To: Ridin' Shotgun
He's never denied it. But maybe you want to put words in his mouth in your "defence" of him.
58 posted on 12/10/2001 1:01:59 PM PST by Lent
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To: AGAviator
Hey Musli shill. Should I also quote all that anti-American stuff you've been posting as well? You glibly quote from the Declaration of Independence but secretly despise it. Just like a good Musli shill.
59 posted on 12/10/2001 1:12:02 PM PST by Lent
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To: Lent
I don't care whether he said it or not. You're the one who's offended and since you brought the accusation, its up to you to prove it. Otherwise you're engaging in a fraud.
60 posted on 12/10/2001 1:12:39 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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