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Chow down, FReepers. This is good stuff.

1 posted on 12/11/2001 2:09:00 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
This is better written than the comments I have made over the last seven years, but the hypothesis is essentially the same. I lean a little bit more toward the government, through the nationalization of the air waves, licensing of broadcast stations, and censorship during world war II, caused the cartelization of the media.
2 posted on 12/11/2001 3:07:57 AM PST by marktwain
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To: leadpenny; OLDWORD
Anyone who is a "journalist" or who aspires to be a "journalist," should read and reflect on this commentary. Tony Snow does his homework. And that is the first role of any journalist.

Reaching into one's own mind for answers and solutions, in total ignorance of the history of the nation and the history of a free press, produces nothing but trach and twaddle. That's why most of the talking heads on TV, and typing heads in the print media are worse than useless, They are an active danger to the survival of the Republic.

Congressman Billybob

3 posted on 12/11/2001 5:09:01 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: leadpenny
Great Stuff!!
"Many of these sites are livelier, smarter and more informative
than the old media they hope to supplant."

Think he was talking about us??? Go Tony!!

4 posted on 12/11/2001 5:33:17 AM PST by BreitbartSentMe
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To: leadpenny
Well Tony, I do like the article, but I'm afraid that it's back to square one. With the passage of the Patriot Act it is no longer feasible to offer open, honest discourse, lest one be charged with trying to change government policy through dialogue.
Sorry old friend, as much as I would like to think that there is a new medium out there, it too is being slowly eroded. I believe more and more independent writers will fall out because they do not wish to have their liberties curtailed.
Stepping out on a limb these days can serve up more than a few bruises and having the wind knocked out of you from the fall.
5 posted on 12/11/2001 5:36:22 AM PST by philman_36
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To: leadpenny
bump
6 posted on 12/11/2001 8:59:04 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: leadpenny
Loved the article! Tony's great- he is one of the best conservative thinkers in America. The feeling he has that there will eventually be alternative forums to the "big three monopoly" in which conservative voices will be allowed to be heard is absolutely right- we're speaking on one of them now. I know it's mean to say, but I can't wait for Rush to take a day off or go on vacation, so that Tony can sit in as guest host. Good article ( or speech)- whatever!
8 posted on 12/12/2001 9:15:44 PM PST by conservativesoutherner
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To: leadpenny
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12 posted on 12/14/2001 7:33:27 PM PST by MitchellC
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To: leadpenny
"All Americans have a deep interest in maintaining the Constitution. This might seem especially true of journalists, who owe their livelihoods to the founding document that frames our freedoms. Yet for some reason, American journalists in recent decades have assailed that document with startling vigor - and have seemed blissfully ignorant of their treachery. Fortunately, the Constitution itself supplies a cure for this malady.

...Before I consider how and why the Constitution does this, consider a few of the fundamental ways in which it safeguards liberty...

...Free expression, virtue, capitalism and limited government were four of the main pillars that upheld America through its first two centuries.

...Yet here we return to a source of wonder: America's journalistic establishment, which owes its existence and authority to the Constitution, fails to appreciate the Constitution's intellectual architecture. Indeed, that establishment has mounted a sustained assault on each of the pillars of the American system I have just discussed.

Wow. I just read this in my copy of IMPRIMIS, and was VERY impressed with the writing of Tony Snow.

I always thought that he was a "lightweight" when he guest-hosted for Rush, but it appears that I was WRONG.

This article is GREAT!

14 posted on 12/31/2001 12:57:23 PM PST by RonDog
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To: doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; DLfromthedesert; PatiPie; flamefront; onyx; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Irma...
"Fortunately, the Constitution - the forgotten document in the journalism biz - has come to the rescue. Court decisions have chipped away at old media monopolies, and now a profusion of new media has risen to supply facts and points of view the old elite brazenly ignored. Talk radio, the Internet and cable television have shattered the "mainstream" media's grip on the distribution of facts and ideas...

...The great and fitting irony is that the modern media establishment, in reviling America's constitutional principles and established institutions, broke its traditional links to the public, creating a market for its successor and bringing forth a tantalizing prospect: a full-fledged revival of the free, open, and spirited public debate, facilitated by a free and pluralistic press, that Americans took for granted throughout most of our nation's history."

Bravo, Tony Snow!

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Please post your comments, and BUMP!

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15 posted on 12/31/2001 1:10:02 PM PST by RonDog
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To: leadpenny; RonDog
Thanks BUMP!
18 posted on 12/31/2001 2:03:22 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: leadpenny
Too bad Snow didn't bother to explore why some Americans don't share his passion for very small gubmint. It seems to me somewhat pointless to contrast 1787 to 2001, while ignoring the things that happened in between.
19 posted on 12/31/2001 2:05:12 PM PST by Huck
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To: leadpenny
"One can attribute this Stepford-like uniformity in part to a political peculiarity. Between 1932 and 1994, Republicans were all but irrelevant in official Washington. Democrats dominated Congress and its machinery, and reporters naturally migrated toward those staffers who ran the capital's bureaucracies. Since the key sources remained the same, year after year, journalists formed ties of friendship, ideology and even kinship with Democrats - "

I've tried so many times to say this clearly.

Bookmarked thread!

21 posted on 12/31/2001 3:55:18 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: leadpenny
Thanks for this thread. Tony Snow is one of my favorite conservatives on the radio and on FoxNews!

Tony had these really important remarks in this thread:

Better Days Ahead

Fortunately, the Constitution - the forgotten document in the journalism biz - has come to the rescue. Court decisions have chipped away at old media monopolies, and now a profusion of new media has risen to supply facts and points of view the old elite brazenly ignored. Talk radio, the Internet and cable television have shattered the "mainstream" media's grip on the distribution of facts and ideas. Rush Limbaugh became the most successful radio personality of his generation, not just because of his great gifts as a broadcaster, but also because he was saying things people couldn't hear elsewhere. The Internet also has become a public square for conservatives. One can find dozens of Web sites devoted to supplying points of view still absent from ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC and NPR. Many of these sites are livelier, smarter and more informative than the old media they hope to supplant. The Constitution's protections of free speech - reiterated in dozens of Supreme Court decisions over the years - have given protective cover to a new pluralism that bids to reinvigorate the business of journalism and sharpen public discourse.

The great and fitting irony is that the modern media establishment, in reviling America's constitutional principles and established institutions, broke its traditional links to the public, creating a market for its successor and bringing forth a tantalizing prospect: a full-fledged revival of the free, open, and spirited public debate, facilitated by a free and pluralistic press, that Americans took for granted throughout most of our nation's history.

Since we still have freedom of choice thanks to our capitalist society, something else happened here.

For a comparison go back to our American Auto industry in the late 1960's and most of the 1970's. The American Auto Industry became arrogant and the union workers became arrogant and forgot their pride of workmanship. This combination resulted in terrible cars. Cars that weren't safe, that were shoddy made and expensive to keep running.

The auto industry like the arrogant left wing maggots who control our media did not listen to our complaints about their terrible products.

Then, Japan enters our Auto Market with reliable and great little cars. These Japanese cars became even more reliable and bigger while our Auto makers and their unions became more arrogant and refused to listen to us!

One day they woke and started the long turn around to building quality cars with good workmanship and a reliable product.

The maggots who own and control the media will either wake up and offer a better product or they will disappear in this decade! We have choices like we did when Japan entered our auto market. We have the internet and Free Republic. We have Rush, Sean, and the conservative people on Fox News for our news choices. Many of us never go over to the Dark Side mediot maggots any more! They have lost us as audience members, and their advertisers have lost our buying power!

Personally, I hope that they don't wake up as payback for what they have done to this country with their politicians like the Clintoons, the Kennedys, the Gorons, the Da$$hole and ___________ (you fill in the blank)! Their anti America and anti Church and pro radical homosexual agendas in my view puts them in a non salvageable domain!

The day that most Conservatives stop buying newspapers and watching left wing mediots on tv, they will lose even more audiences and power!

Regardless the surviving left wing fishwraps and CNNCBSNBCABCCSPAN are probably like the Dinosaurs who survived the first part of the ice age, only to become petroleum later on! I believe that they picked the wrong side and have doomed themselves. Their side/audience will not even be able to read, listen to a talk show or watch a news show and understand anything by the time this decade is over. That can be blamed on these left wing mediots and what they have done with our school and university systems with the diversity/perversity and PC focus!

22 posted on 12/31/2001 3:56:12 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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26 posted on 01/01/2002 8:34:01 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: leadpenny
Bump for responsible, professional journalism.
27 posted on 01/02/2002 11:23:21 AM PST by TigerTale
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35 posted on 03/09/2004 7:50:28 PM PST by perfect stranger ("Don't shoot I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!" Che Guevara October 1967)
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36 posted on 03/09/2004 8:04:32 PM PST by perfect stranger ("Don't shoot I'm Che! I'm worth more to you alive than dead!" Che Guevara October 1967)
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