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Profits of Death (A Special FTW Series)--Part II
From the Wilderness Publications ^ | 12/11/2001 | Tom Flocco

Posted on 12/11/2001 9:57:28 AM PST by mancini

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To: rdavis84
CIA = MOB, and MOB = CIA.

A good book to help one understand how this came to be is "Double Cross", by the brother and nephew of mobster Sam Giancana.

But I'm glad we gottem right now!

21 posted on 12/11/2001 2:22:20 PM PST by Bill Rice
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To: Bill Rice
"But I'm glad we gottem right now!"

Kinda like havin' AIDS to keep from gettin' Raped?

But then, I have a Very Intense Dislike for the CIA. ;-)

22 posted on 12/11/2001 2:35:08 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: Donald Stone; mancini; thinden
To kind of head 'em off at the pass, how often does a $Million + trade go unclaimed.

And what type of person(s), entity or other type investor would be inclined to walk away from it?

It would be a bit absurd to speculate that any of the highjackers would be either smart enough or in a position to claim the profit. And any innocent party would just say "Hey, I hit the Trifecta";-) and cash in.

Maybe somebody can 'splain how this could happen.

23 posted on 12/11/2001 2:43:47 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
On my last post, I wasn't sure how to spell "Giancana", so I did a google search.

I ended up finding a pretty interesting conspiracy article that I posted here.

24 posted on 12/11/2001 2:49:36 PM PST by Bill Rice
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To: Bill Rice; Donald Stone; mancini; thinden
THIS JUST IN!!! ---(from my private investment banker/beer buddy --- the guy's gonna make me rich someday and he doesn't even know it :-)

"It is not all that uncommon in the investment banking business for a client to walk away from a trade.

Failing to settle a securities transaction on settlement day is known as "D.K." within the industry. The term is a contraction of "Don't Know."

The typical "D.K." occurs when a speculator or trade enters into a transaction for himself or for a client and refuses to settle the trade as agreed.

A "D.K.d" trade is typically associated with a losing trade. 

In other words someone is trying to ride the bull market to new highs, and the market corrects itself downward. The long position the trader has placed has loses on settlement day, and they attempt to walk away from it.

Conversely, a trader that is short a position in a bear market (who anticipates the market going down and settling the trade by buying the security at a lower price than they sold it.) would lose money if the market rallied up in prices.

In both of these cases an unscrupulous trader may "D.K." the trade because it has losses in the trade that they either don't want to take, are unable to take, or unaware of the fact that a trade has been made in their name.

Never until the 9/11 put options, have I heard of anyone "D.K.ing" a trade that had millions of dollars of profits in it.

"D.K.ing" this trade is obviously a violation of security laws, but to walk away and leave millions on the table is because the person who made the trade know it is criminal blood money."

25 posted on 12/11/2001 2:52:21 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
Parse this carefully:

"...a spokesman for the German stock exchange Sunday said an investigation had found no evidence that Osama bin Laden or others profited from advance knowledge about Tuesday's terror attacks through stock trades."

All it says is that anyone who profited through stock trades (buying a put or selling a call is not a "stock trade") could not be shown to have had advance knowledge.

We also have to remember that "no evidence" has been morphed into "no conclusive proof" by attorneys and politicians, and the sheeple who let them get away with such phrases.

26 posted on 12/11/2001 3:06:31 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: thinden
Excellent post. One thing you may be missing is the incredible arrogance which has been shown time and time again to lead these guys to do anything they want. Their ability to control the flow of information, a compliant and thoroughly compromised press, Intelligence Committees in House and Senate whose members are scared to death of them, have all made them -- justifiably -- think they're bullet proof.

I've been told by a ranking member in the House and a friend was told by a U.S. Senator "If it's about the CIA, I don't want to hear it."

27 posted on 12/11/2001 3:13:29 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: rdavis84; thinden
Has anybody looked at who sold the unconsumated puts?

Does it matter? Seems to me that it might, but I'm not sure how.

28 posted on 12/11/2001 3:18:38 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: NDCORUP
I think he still lurks. He might be interested in this.

... and if this post posts, he's not really banned.

29 posted on 12/11/2001 3:25:15 PM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: LSJohn; mancini
From this article I posted in Oct. ---- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/552742/posts

"Between 6 and 7 September, the Chicago Board Options Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 "put" option contracts in UAL versus 396 call options – where a speculator bets on a price rising. Holders of the put options would have netted a profit of $5m (£3.3m) once the carrier's share price dived after 11 September. On 10 September, more trading in Chicago saw the purchase of 4,516 put options in American Airlines, the other airline involved in the hijackings. This compares with a mere 748 call options in American purchased that day. Investigators cannot help but notice that no other airlines saw such trading in their put options.

It was not just airlines that were targeted by remarkably canny investors. One of the biggest occupants of the World Trade Centre was Morgan Stanley, the investment bank. In the first week of September, an average of 27 put option contracts was bought each day in its shares. The total for the three days before the attacks was 2,157. Merrill Lynch, anotherWTC tenant, saw 12,215 put options bought in the four days before the attacks, when the previous days had seen averages of 252 contracts a day.

Attribution ---- UK Independent 



30 posted on 12/11/2001 3:32:45 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: OwenKellogg
"I think he still lurks. He might be interested in this.

... and if this post posts, he's not really banned."

I know somebody who talks to himself... him fairly often. Probably his only friend, I'll e-mail him.

31 posted on 12/11/2001 3:35:23 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: LSJohn
"We also have to remember that "no evidence" has been morphed into "no conclusive proof" by attorneys and politicians, and the sheeple who let them get away with such phrases."

I'd like to see an amendment to the Constitution voted on that made Lawyers and Politicians have to use Sign Language Only. No writing, no talking, nothing but signing.

Maybe then we could get this Country Operating Constitutionally again.

32 posted on 12/11/2001 3:41:03 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
Probably his only friend,...

hey now!

33 posted on 12/11/2001 4:11:54 PM PST by thinden
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To: thinden
Probably his only friend,...

I used to like him before he started posting that ignorant Mena crap. He actually thinks Beelzebubba knew about the drugs that went through the B bush there.

Sheeeesh.

34 posted on 12/11/2001 4:31:24 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: Wallaby; snopercod; First_Salute; Lion's Cub
fyi. part 2
35 posted on 12/11/2001 5:15:48 PM PST by thinden
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To: rdavis84
"It CAN'T be fixed for the simple reason that was given to me, very proudly, 'We ARE the Government!'"

...yea.
I almost feel as if I've been hypnotised into buying that line, myself.
Until one reads this kind of thing.

...then it's as-if someone snapped their fingers.

36 posted on 12/12/2001 5:22:39 AM PST by Landru
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To: Landru
"We ARE the Government!" ----- The only problem is, this was said by a member of a Front Company. The Arrogance reeked.
37 posted on 12/12/2001 5:27:32 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: LSJohn
"I used to like him before he started posting that ignorant Mena crap"

Yeah, that's where he lost me too. Always tryin' to make it look like the CIA was involved in it, and then Vince F. and Bubba, finally in desperation tryin' to drag the Bush Family into it. Yellin' about Money Laundries, Drug Movement, ha, he even got into a shootin' incident just to get attention. Man, Good Ridance!

BTW, I don't know what Thinden's bit is with the guy. Don't suppose it's .........................nawww, nevermind.

38 posted on 12/12/2001 5:33:34 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
Probably his only friend, I'll e-mail him.

Tell his only friend to tell ND we miss him, the ol' coot.

39 posted on 12/12/2001 5:55:54 AM PST by mancini
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To: rdavis84; thinden; LSJohn; All
Thank you all for the useful information. There are murderers in suits who most likely will go unnoticed and unpunished for now . . . later is a different story.
40 posted on 12/12/2001 5:58:55 AM PST by mancini
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