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To: Cap'n Crunch
Wherever Our Lady goes, there Jesus is, just like in the Gospel.

Regardless of how you feel about Our Lady, what do you think of the miraculous tilma? Have you read about it? It is very much like the Shroud of Turin.

First, in the gospels, Mary followed Jesus, not the other way around, which may not be how you meant it above, but it is typed as such.

Second, if there is no mention of Jesus in the message, how are those receiving it to know He is there?

Regarding the shroud - I'm skeptical of it myself. And no I am not familiar at all with the tilma.

42 posted on 12/12/2001 8:40:56 AM PST by agrace
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To: agrace
I see where the confusion is, yes, wherever Jesus is, His Mother is there also. For Catholics we know that if a Church is built Jesus will be recieved in Holy Communion and always present in the taberacle. In this appearance of Our Lady, she appears pregnant, in fact she is a living tabernacle.

In the Gospel, the angel appeared to Mary to announce the birth of Jesus, Mary brought Jesus to us when she said yes to God. Mary also brings Jesus to us when she appears, just like she did at Guadalupe. We can be like Elizabeth when Mary went to visit her, or like John the Baptist who was sanctified in Elizabeths womb when Mary spoke to her.

Read Our Lady's canticle in Luke.

59 posted on 12/12/2001 9:01:35 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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