Scientist Found Slain In His Loudoun Home (2 More Bio-Experts Dead, EbolaVictimMissing)

|Washington Post, Reuters, Australian Newspaper ^ | December 12, 2001 | News Staffs

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A well-known biophysicist who was one of the leading researchers on DNA sequencing analysis was found slain in his rural Loudoun County home after co-workers became concerned that he didn't come to work Monday, authorities said yesterday.

A microbiologist killed at CSIRO's animal diseases facility in Geelong had logged 15 years' experience with the unit, police said today.

Victoria Police said Set Van Nguyen, 44, appeared to have died yesterday morning after entering an airlock into a storage laboratory filled with nitrogen.

His body was found when his wife became worried after he failed to return from work.

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Pray for America.

This brings two five experts either missing or dead in the last few weeks. FBI seems of no interests and Memphis plolice call Wiley a likely suicide despite no evidence that he was suicidal, and no body ever found. Also notice the Autralian's last name.

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[Amore]

well, they solved 1 of them, according to another thread.

[mombonn]

creepy "coincidence" bump.

[John H K]

Three arrests have already been made in the Schwartz case, as I've noted..the web articles reflecting that won't appear till tomorrow. They arrested three teenage friends (all white, non-Arabs, btw) of the scientist's daughter for the murder.

[TomGuy]

Also head administrator for Medical School in Iowa found stabbed. FR posting. Seems to be an epidemic of disappearing/dying scientists associated with bio-med expertise.

[OldFriend]

Curiouser and curiouser.......

[Hodar]

the room was full of deadly gas ...

N2 is not deadly, or any more deadly than water. Our atmostphere is 90+% N2. Granted, we need 02 to live, so he couldn't stay in the area ... but surely he noticed that he was out of breath and couldn't oxygenate himself by breathing in the lab. Instinct would cause one to leave the area. This sounds like he was trapped in there, and murdered.

[Henchman]

Some will be solved, some will reappear and some.... Perhaps there is an Anthrax "action" going on - which side, which side, which side - hmmmm? A new conspiracy theory in the making.

[TomGuy]

Also, the anthrax to Nigeria (still questionable--they say it was, US says it wasn't) was sent to a medical Doctor, and the anthrax to Chile was also sent to a medical Doctor.

Seems scientist and physician has become a hazardous occupation lately.

[Henchman]

Ebola attack? ... EBOLA ATTACK! Get mose traps and keep the house clean. Dispose of all cheese. Stay off reservations. Be alert, be cautios. Report suspicious mouse droppings!

[widgysoft]

Just remember what Johnny Jihad said!

[Henchman]

Did he say anything on how to bait mouse traps? It will be quite difficult after all the cheese is discarded to preclude surreptitious mouse intrusions.

[Wonder Warthog]

"N2 is not deadly, or any more deadly than water. Our atmostphere is 90+% N2. Granted, we need 02 to live, so he couldn't stay in the area ... but surely he noticed that he was out of breath and couldn't oxygenate himself by breathing in the lab. Instinct would cause one to leave the area. This sounds like he was trapped in there, and murdered."

Wrong-o. If you enter a room (or closed area) entirely full of nitrogen, you only have one or two full breaths before losing consciousness. I know--because it happened to me. I was damned lucky to live. "Instinct" has nothing whatsoever to do with it, as there simply isn't TIME to recognize what is happening and take action.

[Henchman]

Great reply - at least there were no mice involved.

[John H K]

I've never heard anything about "anthrax" sent to Nigeria.

Do you mean Kenya? Both Kenya and the US say it wasn't anthrax. It was mold. And it was mailed to a Kenyan doctor by his DAUGHTER. It was cloth that somehow got wet in transit.

The supposed Chile case has dropped off the face of the earth, but it's safe to say it probably hasn't checked out, probably cross-contamination in the Chilean lab. It was a mass-mailing of brochures, anyway.

[pray4liberty]

This does not look good.

[Henchman]

Great - you did say MOLD, not MICE, right? 'Cause I hate them meeces to pieces.

[LenS]

Nguyen is a Vietnamese name. Vietnam is not exactly an Islamic hotbed.

[TomGuy]

Nguyen

That, if I remember right, is the last name of the nurse in NYC who did of anthrax. I'm sure it is a common Vietnamese name, but even that is sure curious.

[Nita Nupress]

The supposed Chile case has dropped off the face of the earth, but it's safe to say it probably hasn't checked out, probably cross-contamination in the Chilean lab

Why is it safe to say that? Isn't that making an assumption without having the facts?

[Old Professer]

N2 is not deadly, or any more deadly than water. Our atmostphere is 90+% N2.

Actually, it is more like 78% N2, 21% O2 and 1% of everything else, 90% of the 1% is Argon.

[Skywalk]

I think he knows that. It's a bit of a stretch to point out the names. Yes this Set Van Nguyen was nguoi Viet, but it's not a big coincidence if two Vietnamese people with the name Nguyen die in a matter of two/three months. Nguyen is more common than Smith.

[Bob Mc]

"...but surely he noticed that he was out of breath and couldn't oxygenate himself by breathing in the lab..."

The feeling of being out of breath is caused by a build up of carbon dioxide in the blood. If you have an N2 atmosphere (with no oxygen) your body is still able to exhale CO2, so you don't feel the sensation of being out of breath. You get sleepy and pass out.

Pilots are trained how to recognize the onset of lack of oxygen, but often do not. Most people will not realize what is happening.

[UB355]

N2 by itself is not the problem. But the lack of Oxygen causes the breather to pass out almost instantly. I saw this happen once when the breating air tank for a SCBA had been hydrotested using N2. It was not emptied and refilled with breathing air. A firefighter ended up with the tank. He buckled and passed out almost instantly.

[stboz]

Big time wrong-o. Air is about 77% nitrogen, not 90. Air is about 21.9 % oxygen. Go under 19.5% and you're asking for trouble. Read up before posting.

[aristeides]

Mr. John H K seems to have an interest in discounting all the foreign anthrax cases, and suggestions that Middle Easterners in this country may be involved, and in accusing those of us who insist on retaining an open mind of being conspiracy theorists.

[Bill Rice]

The "Ebola Victim Missing" part of the title got my attention.
Now where's the story about that?

[blam]

"Wrong-o. If you enter a room (or closed area) entirely full of nitrogen, you only have one or two full breaths before losing consciousness. I know--because it happened to me. I was damned lucky to live. "Instinct" has nothing whatsoever to do with it, as there simply isn't TIME to recognize what is happening and take action."

Yup. The chip making business have had a number of deaths and many more close escapes. Some got lucky when they collapsed back into the oxygen near the floor.

[cricket]

"Also notice the Autralian's last name." That is really interesting. . .

Seems, according to posts here, that Swartz case already has the 'alleged perpetrators'; but the Wiley case, is more than perplexing. . .

. . .particularly with the absence or the 'appearance' of an absence of interest on behalf of the FBI. Sincerely, and anxiously, hope it is the latter. . .

[aristeides]

When I read, over the Thanksgiving weekend, that Vladimir Pasechnik had just died of a stroke, I thought nothing of it. I was completing reading Ken Alibek's book Biohazard (in which Pasechnik plays a rather prominent role) at the time, so the timing struck me as curious. But I didn't doubt the alleged cause of death, then.

But now, reading about all these other people, I have to wonder.

[Grut]

Did he say anything on how to bait mouse traps? It will be quite difficult after all the cheese is discarded to preclude surreptitious mouse intrusions.

Use pepperoni. Its fibrous texture means the mouse has to tug harder to pull it loose from the trigger, making the trap more likely to go off.

Besides, the mouse dies happier.

On no account use soy cheese. No creature's last thought should be "What the hell is this?"

[Grassontop]

Any of this connected with the Clintons? I wonder if they have people doing their dirty work to cover their trail as always! Grassontop

[Nita Nupress]

...and in accusing those of us who insist on retaining an open mind of being conspiracy theorists.

Marginalize, marginalize. That's the name of the game.

Buncha Wackenhut wacko's. :-)

[RnMomof7]

The traitor says it is coming...the signs are there for a blind man .....the FBI will say that it is all unrelated..

none are so blind as those that will not see

[LeeMcCoy]

That's Hanta virus...not Ebola. Transmitted in mouse droppings.

[VaBthang4]

Okay...

Is it me or does it seem like quite a few scientist are getting snuffed out?

I hate to sound like some of our more dimwitted board members but this is alot of coincidence at a peculiar time?

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[riri]

So...what´s your take on all this? I really don´t know what to make of this all? it is getting more freaky by the day. I´d be curious to hear some theories!

[Semper Paratus]

N2 is not deadly, or any more deadly than water.

I would disagree, you go into a large room of nothing but N2
and you won't notice anything wrong with your breathing until it is too late.
The first sympton will be incipient blackout, stars in your head, you have seconds
and if your more than 15 feet in its too late.

[eastforker]

Our air is not 90% nitrogen,only about 78%.You don't notice running out of oxygen,you just pass out and die.

[meadsjn]

link

Robert M. Schwartz PhD, Director of Intellectual Resources, Virginia Center for Innovative Technology. Dr. Schwartz plays a key role in promoting the growth of biotechnology industry in Virginia by fostering industrial/academic collaboration. Dr. Schwartz is based in Herndon VA, and travels frequently throughout the state and to Charlottesville.

[RnMomof7]

I think there is a plan. the government is silly to disregard the traitors info..after all most of the Muslim world knew 9/11 was going to happen..the calender in Holland..and the High school student in NY prove that they do not bother to hide their plans among themselves..

I sure hope the Government is only saying they do not believe this..and that they really do know what is in the works.

[riri]

I agree, somethings up. These guys turning up dead or missing is making me loads more uncomfortable than just about anything so far.

[Hagrid]

One of the S. American cases is the ONLY foreign one to have checked out.

[maestro]

Your# 8)......uh, wasn't this 'played' on T.V. this week? On 'Murder She Wrote'??.....Jessica solved it!! It was N2.

[RadioAstronomer]

N2 is not deadly, or any more deadly than water. Our atmostphere is 90+% N2. Granted, we need 02 to live, so he couldn't stay in the area ... but surely he noticed that he was out of breath and couldn't oxygenate himself by breathing in the lab. Instinct would cause one to leave the area. This sounds like he was trapped in there, and murdered.

The suffocation reflex is generated by CO₂ not a lack of O₂. So, should you enter a room that has no oxygen, you will actually get euphoric before you pass out and die. Not unlike altitude hypoxia.