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Poor county can't pay
San JoseMercury News ^
| Monday, Dec. 17, 2001
| BY JENNIFER COLEMAN
Posted on 12/17/2001 4:52:44 AM PST by sasquatch
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Makes my blood boil. The so-called gifts of the mega-phila's are killing rural America.
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posted on
12/17/2001 4:52:44 AM PST
by
sasquatch
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To: sasquatch
That's what happens when you buy all your fish from Japan and all your lumber from Canada...That's the way we like it, isn't it??? If we can just get the wages down to around 3 bucks an hour, then maybe we can start buying American again...
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posted on
12/17/2001 5:01:06 AM PST
by
Iscool
To: sasquatch
Kind of sounds like the results of the Democrat's stimulus package to me.
To: sasquatch
Another fed land grab. No surprise here.
To: sasquatch
Most of the county's budget pays for state-mandated programs Stop paying for state-mandated programs. If the state gets angry, tell them to fund them. Use local taxes on local projects deemed important by the locals (note: this may require a backbone)
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posted on
12/17/2001 5:07:24 AM PST
by
2banana
To: Iscool
That's what happens when you buy all your fish from Japan and all your lumber from Canada...
What the heck are you talking about? Their problem ISN'T that they have plenty of fish around and people aren't buying American fish, it's that the California commercial fishermen wiped out their own fishery and they can look in the mirror if they want to see the cause of their problems.
It's the Japanese buying fish from us,btw, not the other way around...the Japanese wiped out their own fishery before we destroyed ours, and their big money purchases are now helping us wipe out the last of our fish.
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posted on
12/17/2001 5:08:15 AM PST
by
John H K
To: teenager
mega-phila
Thats my term for the Philanthropic foundations that give millions of dollars to
Save the Redwoods and others in what they think is helping save the world for the children.
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posted on
12/17/2001 5:15:44 AM PST
by
sasquatch
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To: diggerwillow
don't we all dislike ignorance. Your post said that the problems in this county were due to democrats. The Democrats have advocated many policies that have done harm to rural areas, but Republicans have done exactly the same. The source of this county's problems the article says is a depressed lumber industry. While George HW Bush was president the federal government made an arbitrary decision that the spotted owl needed to be protected and that much of the lumber harvesting business in the northwest must shut down as a result. There's never been any evidence that the spotted owl is endangered and there's never been any evidence that shutting down these lumber operations would help them. The federal government's own research shows this clearly. The reality is that a republican administration simply made a ruling that was very hostile to the rural northwest. So, it is not really accurate to blame this on democrats, it is the republicans who it seems are more to blame here.
If George w bush wants to un-do the harm done by george hw bush, then he can do so, but it seems that he's committed to a certain amount of rural cleansing to me as a part of the new world order efforts.
To: candyman34
you're very mistaken. It was the Republicans in 1989 who made an arbitrary ruling while they controlled the white house that caused the problems in this county. There's never been any evidence whatsoever that the spotted owl's population has been endangered, I can quote you their population changes according to our own government's research going back 500 years. There's never been any evidence that stopping the harvesting of trees would help the spotted owl, never any evidence that harvesting the trees would hurt the spotted owl. It was a Republican administration that slammed these people, not democrats. The law did not have to be interpreted the way that the Republicans chose to. So, it's is just as stupid and unjust as can be to blame this county's problems on anything but Republicans.
To: carry_okie
'morning. It's time to get up.
To: sasquatch
To: John H K
California commercial fishermen wiped out their own fishery and they can look in the mirror if they want to see the cause of their problems. Do you know that for a fact or are you just shoolting off your mouth? I've got data that says it's the latter. Aquaculture killed the salmon fishing industry. You can't buy diesel for the boat and compete with farmed salmon sold at $1.25 per pound. There was a record salmon run this year. After the Peacific Decadal Oscillation completed its cycle the numbers came back up. Now if we could just get NMFS to do something about overpopulated pinnipeds, mismanaging the hatcheries, and stop messing with the smolt run trying to make Gray Davis look good, the salmon would be doing great.
To: Red Jones
Nice to see somebody keeping his facts straight instead of blathering popular wisdoms. Poppa Bush it was, then Clinton extended the spotted owl gambit across the entire West. Whether it was an NWO subsidy to the offshore timber business or whether it was mere political gutlessness before the fascists serving the UN/NWO doesn't matter.
To: sasquatch
Last spring the American Lands Alliance(enviro group) published an activist alert regarding the County Payments Bill on their web site. I had this bookmarked but it appears that it has been removed since then.
This activist alert was to announce that the funds from the CPB were about to be released and instructed enviro activists on how to become members of the RAC. The point was that with enough effort the enviros could stack these committees and influence how this money would be spent. Possibly to the detriment of the County.
To: Carry_Okie
I'm talking about rock cod and such.
I realize this isn't politically correct on FR, where business is always right and enviros ALWAYS wrong, but commercial fishermen wipe out fisheries, unless the government can close it before they can. It's happened, is happening, and will happen, because of the nature of the industry (people don't own plots of ocean, and as a population declines the price for the fish goes up.)
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posted on
12/17/2001 6:57:15 AM PST
by
John H K
To: Red Jones
If George w bush wants to un-do the harm done by george hw bush, then he can do so, but it seems that he's committed to a certain amount of rural cleansing to me as a part of the new world order efforts. You're right, and the cutting off of irrigation water to patriotic American farmers VS bottom feeding sucker fish is a good example of it.
And, while we're on the subject of saintly Republicans. It was REPUBLICANS that pushed for, then passed a grossly flawed energy "deregulation" bill in California causing the energy mess we're in...AND, it was "read my lips", "new world order" GHW Bush that gave us the ADA...AND, it was Republican president Nixon that gave us the EPA and other alphabet soup bureaucracies, not to mention wage and price controls, mandatory 55 MPH speed limits etc....
When voting Democrat or Republican, be careful what you wish for......
To: candyman34
but like all liberal politicians they will come up with some brilliant lie on why things are going to hell at a trot. We tried doing what YOU think is right. We elected Republican Governors for 16 consecutive years before Gray Davis... this sh!t didn't just happen over night.
Both parties are infested with "Liberal politicians".
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