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British soldier dies after being shot in Kosovo "in front of a partially built Christian Church"
AFP via Yahoo! News ^ | Tuesday December 18, 6:18 AM | AFP

Posted on 12/17/2001 2:00:00 PM PST by Pericles

Tuesday December 18, 6:18 AM

British soldier dies after being shot in Kosovo

A British soldier with the international peacekeeping force in Kosovo, KFOR, died after being shot in the Yugoslav province's main city of Pristina, a KFOR spokesman said.

The spokesman, Captain Ollie Major, said: "A British soldier was injured as a result of a gunshot wound. The soldier later died."

Major said the soldier had been on duty in front of a partially built Christian Orthodox church when he was shot.

He did not give further details and did not name the soldier.

Unrest between Kosovo's ethnic Albanian majority, most of whom are Muslim, and its Serbian minority, mostly Orthodox, has dogged the UN mission there since it took over the administration in mid-1999.

Serbian forces had been forced out of Kosovo after 11 weeks of NATO airstrikes launched to protect the oppressed ethnic Albanians.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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Kfor soldier shot in Kosovo "accident" - (was it really KLA ?) Published: Dec 15th, 2001 A German soldier serving with the NATO-led KFOR peacekeeping force in Kosovo was killed on Saturday in a shooting accident, the German army said in a statement. The exact circumstances of the accident had yet to be explained, the statement said.
1 posted on 12/17/2001 2:00:00 PM PST by Pericles
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To: Pericles; Balkans
More here.
2 posted on 12/17/2001 2:04:09 PM PST by Balto_Boy
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To: vooch; Hoplite; Torie; Travis McGee; Fusion; Srpska Vatra; tonycavanagh; Hamiltonian...
Add this to killing to your list of KFOR dead, vooch. I guess NATO could not call this killing an accident.

NATO wanst to get al-Qaeda? Then they should go after the Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army. Oh wait I forgot, the KLA is our ally. The US served as the KLA's private airforce against Yugoslavia did it not?

Snow is falling in the Kacanik Valley...............

3 posted on 12/17/2001 2:06:07 PM PST by Pericles
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To: Pericles
Serbian forces had been forced out of Kosovo after 11 weeks of NATO airstrikes launched to protect the oppressed ethnic Albanians.

Yeah, we sure didn't want those poor Muslims to feel oppressed while they were busy planning terrorist attacks for bin Laden.

4 posted on 12/17/2001 2:06:17 PM PST by longleaf
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To: Pericles
Psycho killer of the Jihad.
5 posted on 12/17/2001 2:19:27 PM PST by dennisw
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To: Pericles
I surmise that they've destroyed almost every church in Kosovo since our war, this church was under construction to replace a destroyed one, the KFOR soldier was put there to protect it and then was killed for it. Now, will KFOR put more soldiers out in front of that church?

If we had any integrity we'd put troops back there and do it in such a way as to anticipate another attack and simply kill whoever attacks. Unfortunately, as you say Pericles, the evidence is that the KLA are our allies, so we don't do as we should.

6 posted on 12/17/2001 2:22:58 PM PST by Red Jones
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To: Pericles; Tonycavanagh; Kate22; Wraith
Who was this British thug to carry a gun in Kosovo without a permit from the Kosovo Liberation Army? Did he believe he was on a football holiday, where he and his drunken hooligan mates would be cracking a few heads like the much vaunted paras do in Northern Ireland against unarmed civilians? Alas, if so, he was mistaken -- and like Sapper Collins has departed this earth for a much better place...

The so called British "army" was put in its place during their recent brief occupation of Slavic Macedonia. The Brits were warned against entering the sovereign state of the Tetovo Republic and they wisely backed down despite their big talk in the tabloids. KLA/UCK forces with their number -- just as earlier this year when they took down a Brit chopper and armoured vehicle...

The Brits will stand down or they will be hammered by the veteran fighters of the KLA and the skilled terminators of K-6. Like the young Hun over the weekend, this British "warrior" has died for nothing but the dreams of empire of the madman Tony Blair...

British troops stationed around the world from Kosovo to Oman -- and even once again in Afghanistan despite the harsh lessons of the days of Elphey Bey. Yet the armchair general Tony Blair overlooks protecting his vulnerable homeland. Who will protect the Brits when Islamic entente gunmen storm London with shattering explosions and suicide squads of automatic weapon, grenade throwing jihadists?

Unlike their American cousins, the Brit sheep unarmed and quite vulnerable now. Hundreds of Islamic militants await only the green light for a general uprising -- yet the British army is in Kosovo, and being killed there...

Dry is good and wind is better...

The Brits should not be laughing now... (tick tock)

The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.

7 posted on 12/17/2001 2:24:49 PM PST by Fusion
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To: Pericles
I have some really strong thoughts on this. Unprintable thoughts.
8 posted on 12/17/2001 2:24:52 PM PST by Dustbunny
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To: Pericles
Personally, I think we should just exterminate EVERYONE in the Balkans and announce a new land rush. There are exactly ZERO good guys in the region.
9 posted on 12/17/2001 2:26:08 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Dustbunny
These are some of my thoughts on this. Already printed.
10 posted on 12/17/2001 2:29:33 PM PST by Pericles
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To: Pericles
Major said the soldier had been on duty in front of a partially built Christian Orthodox church when he was shot.

Interesting choice of words. Note the author didn't say partially re-built. There is always an effort to distance any association of violence and destruction from Clinton's wonderful allies, the KLA Albanians.

Yesterday, a German; today a Brit. Info regarding both is very hush-hush. Hmmm, are some bin-Laden sympathizers trying to open a Balkan front?

11 posted on 12/17/2001 2:38:03 PM PST by bob808
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To: Fusion
If our brave British allies are subjected to the onslaught which you seem to yearn for, I am certain that the attackers will soon find that they have bitten off far more than they can chew (not to mention we will help the Brits to wipe out your buddies). I am a DoD contractor who is married to a Brit. I have lived and worked for several years on and off on oversea British military posts. I have many great freinds in both the Royal Air Force and the Army. I can't say that I am a fan of Tony Blair (I'm not) or the loud obnoxious British press. I will say this however, the Brits are tried and true freinds of the American people, whilst the idiots in the IRA and KLA are some of the lowest scum of the earth. You're one of them... what a pathetic loser you are Fusion!
12 posted on 12/17/2001 2:49:56 PM PST by DCBurgess58
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To: Poohbah
Now, now, Poohbah. There are good guys there. The Serbs just faced their version of 9/11 a few years too soon. If Alija was trying to establish his Islamist Bosnian state today instead of in 1992, or the KLA was embarking on its campaign of assassinating Serb civilians and Albanian "traitors" today instead of in 1998, don't you think the Serbs would be welcomed as allies in the war on Islamist terror?
13 posted on 12/17/2001 2:54:45 PM PST by Gael
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To: Fusion
Your posts are always good for a laugh. Your comment "The Brits will stand down or they will be hammered by the veteran fighters of the KLA and the skilled terminators of K-6" was particulary silly. There's a big difference between a "skilled terminator" and a gutsnipe who shoots a lone soldier guarding a church. The damage is to Islam, however. This is the beginning of the end for Muslim extremists cowards.
14 posted on 12/17/2001 2:57:22 PM PST by Enlightiator
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To: bob808
"Interesting choice of words. Note the author didn't say partially re-built. There is always an effort to distance any association of violence and destruction from Clinton's wonderful allies, the KLA Albanians."

Actually, I think the words are correct. I don't think there's been any (or hardly any) rebuilding of Orthodox churces in Kosovo.

I'd bet this is a church that was probably being built before the war, and has been frozen in its half-built state for three years.

I seem to remember an article by Tim Judah (who seems to hate the Serbs) about British sort of camping out within a half-built Orthodox Church & watching some popular British TV program there. Perhaps this was the very same church he was describing. It almost seemed to me that Tim Judah enjoyed seeing the church being used that way.

15 posted on 12/17/2001 2:59:22 PM PST by joan
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To: bob808
An update on what happened here

The important lines being "

Head wounds

Mr Hain later told the BBC's Newsnight: "Obviously this is a tragedy for his family and for him clearly, but it doesn't appear to have been as a result of a hostile act.

"He died as a result of wounds to the head but it wasn't in action or from a sniper."

"

Hmmmmmmmmmm.
16 posted on 12/17/2001 3:01:16 PM PST by colette_g
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To: All; Pericles;
spokesman Captain Ollie Major Poor will never get a promotion: in the British army, one's rank must never be higher than his surname.
17 posted on 12/17/2001 3:02:44 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Gael
Uh-huh...and the Serbs are NOT the sort of people we like, either. Back when they thought they were winning, the did the same sort of stuff to the Croats and the Muslims. The only difference between the Croats, Serbs, and Muslims over there is that they all wear different funny-looking headgear.

Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out.

20 posted on 12/17/2001 3:06:23 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: bob808
Found the article I remembered! Do you think it is the same church?:

unfinished Serbian church

It is one of the most surreal yet symbolic scenes of the post-war Balkans. Every night a faint glow can be seen through the windows of the great, unfinished Serbian Orthodox Cathedral in the centre of Pristina, the capital of Kosovo.

But the gentle light comes not from candles, ghosts or angels. Inside the church is a large tent. And inside the tent are three Royal Marines commandos. If you come at the right time, they will all be sitting on their sofa clutching mugs of tea and watching EastEnders. A fourth will be outside keeping guard, making sure the church is not razed by Kosovo's Albanians who see it as a symbol of a past and a people they hate.

Three weeks after Slobodan Milosevic fell from power, and a week before Kosovo's Albanians cast their votes in their first internationally supervised free election, everything and nothing has changed here. While there is little doubt British troops will be watching EastEnders and protecting Kosovo's Serbian churches and churchgoers for years to come, it is also clear the events in Belgrade have altered the political landscape…


21 posted on 12/17/2001 3:07:58 PM PST by joan
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To: Poohbah
Personally, I think we should just exterminate EVERYONE in the Balkans and announce a new land rush. There are exactly ZERO good guys in the region.

The Serbs are the closest thing to normal, decent people in the region; Albanian Kosovars are the kind of people who give white trash a bad name. I can understand why Klinton liked them since they generally behave like an archetypal democrat voting block but I'm damned if I can think of any reason for anybody else to like them.

22 posted on 12/17/2001 3:12:52 PM PST by medved
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To: Pericles
Europeans are slow but eventually they will understand the reality about Islam too.
23 posted on 12/17/2001 3:13:45 PM PST by MaxwellWolf
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To: Pericles
You can bet money there is an muslim terrorist finger print on the trigger.

They have such clever ways of saying thank you to their NATO allies for 77 days of bombing CHRISTIANS.

24 posted on 12/17/2001 3:14:41 PM PST by gitmogrunt
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To: medved
The Serbs are the closest thing to normal, decent people in the region

If they're the closest to being "normal" and "decent," then you've just proved my point--the stuff they complain about now, THEY did when they were winning. "Wipe them out. ALL of them."

25 posted on 12/17/2001 3:15:30 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: joan
Do you think it is the same church?

Great memory you have. It very well could be. I doubt too many new churches would have been under construction, seeing as how Serbs were being driven out of Kosovo.

26 posted on 12/17/2001 3:17:36 PM PST by bob808
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To: AnnaZ
:-(
27 posted on 12/17/2001 3:18:56 PM PST by Mercuria
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To: Poohbah
For the love of all that's decent, will you please put that thang back in your PANTS and stop WAVING IT AROUND??
28 posted on 12/17/2001 3:21:39 PM PST by Mercuria
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To: Poohbah
"Wipe them out. ALL of them."

So basically you are saying that you are so against (alleged) ethnic cleansing you feel we should ethnically cleanse all of them. Is that about it?

29 posted on 12/17/2001 3:25:40 PM PST by bob808
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To: Mercuria
But I'm not especially decent...

Especially on this. I completely detest all of the various groups in the Balkans, because they have this habit of whining about Action A when it's taken against them and then turning right around and doing the same thing to the other guy whenever they can.

30 posted on 12/17/2001 3:26:05 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
You are one sick person.
31 posted on 12/17/2001 3:26:33 PM PST by Leonora
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To: bob808
They apparently have a big problem with ethnic cleansing when it's done to them, but they just LOVE it when they do it to everyone else. Basically, as far as I'm concerned, they've given up their right to be called "human beings" and should be wiped out like the vermin they are, and the land given to better-behaved folks.
32 posted on 12/17/2001 3:27:38 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Pericles
Another KLA Albanian Terrorist murder.
33 posted on 12/17/2001 3:29:01 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: Leonora
No, just disgusted by the double standard shown here by most posters on FR. They love Serbia (and ignore what they were doing 1991-95) and hate Albania (for doing the exact same things the Serbs were doing earlier).
34 posted on 12/17/2001 3:29:05 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
You have no idea what you are talking about, do you? That's what happen to people who watch CNN too much.
36 posted on 12/17/2001 3:32:22 PM PST by Leonora
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To: Poohbah
...they've given up their right to be called "human beings" and should be wiped out like the vermin they are, and the land given to better-behaved folks.

Funny, though - you sound just like one of them.

37 posted on 12/17/2001 3:32:48 PM PST by bob808
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To: Poohbah
Personally, I think we should just exterminate EVERYONE in the Balkans and announce a new land rush. There are exactly ZERO good guys in the region.

The real culprits here are the Moslem Albanian terrorist swine and not he Yugo Christians.

Kosovo is just a mini microcosm of what the Moslems will do to Christendom if they are afforded the opportunity?

X42, NATO and Maddy Albright gave the Albanians such an opportunity and nothing but carnage has resulted on the part of, and by the of the poor oppressed Albanians?

38 posted on 12/17/2001 3:33:02 PM PST by zbogwan2
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To: Mercuria
For the love of all that's decent, will you please put that thang back in your PANTS and stop WAVING IT AROUND??

LOL, Best reply yet.

39 posted on 12/17/2001 3:35:17 PM PST by Great Dane
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To: Poohbah
The Serbs never did any ethic cleansing in the first place!

It's a big fat lie that the media, the government and people lie you tell over and over. And it's a complete lie!

The FBI went there and investigated for over a year and never found the tens of thousands of mass graves that your buddy Clinton, Albright and the other Clinton administration scum lied and said existed.

Most of the bodies found were people and policemen who the KLA had murdered or members of the KLA who were killed while attacking people or in shoot-outs with the police and Army.

And your sick animal communist Albanian KLA terrorist friends and Clinton destroyed 100's of the oldest Christian churches in the world! Many were 800 to 1000 years old! You should be ashamed to be taking the side of these murdering monsters!

40 posted on 12/17/2001 3:37:08 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: Leonora
Wow. Are you telling me that the Serbs didn't harm a single Croat or Muslim between 1991 and 1994?

Sheesh, I thought only Clinton had "kneepad brigades." I guess Slobo's got the same sort of thing going. Whodathunkit?

And, of course, once they got sufficient "oomph" up on their own, the Croats did the same thing back to the Serbs, as did the Muslims.

41 posted on 12/17/2001 3:38:49 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
...just disgusted by the double standard shown here...

Hahaha... do you sense any of the irony here? You are so disgusted by the double standard applied by the killing that you want to kill 'em all! Think it through a little bit, buddy...hehehe...

42 posted on 12/17/2001 3:40:30 PM PST by bob808
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To: Poohbah
But I'm not especially decent...

Hey...YOU said it...YOU...LOL!

I say...let God sort it out WITHOUT US BECOMING INVOLVED!

(But that would just be anathema to someone like you...I'm getting out the TestostAway Spray, son, because you're getting out of control...)

43 posted on 12/17/2001 3:40:40 PM PST by Mercuria
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To: Poohbah
But you have to be careful for often Serbs were falsely accused of things perpetrated by the Muslims. Just check out this January 16, 1997 release by the Republican Policy Committee of the U.S. Senate. You notice, that 3 major, much publicized incidents were likely NOT done by the Serbs, but the Muslims. Yet you and others just accepted the false blame and therefore Serbs are overblamed in your mind.

And even snipping, automatically and always blamed on Serbs, was, when ACTUALLY TRACED in an incident described within the report, wass found to be from areas occupied by the Bosnian Muslim army.

Also many accusations of the Serbs DID prove to be hoaxes, yet the demonization from the hoaxes has stuck.

www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm

44 posted on 12/17/2001 3:42:41 PM PST by joan
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To: Poohbah
Concerning all your posts on this thread...Soft as baby shit.
45 posted on 12/17/2001 3:43:40 PM PST by novakeo
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To: t-shirt
First off, I've already pointed I despise EVERYONE in the Balkans. I don't give an airborne improper relationship if they're Serb, Croat, Bosniak Muslim, Albanian, et cetera, and the beat goes on. So don't characterize the KLA as "my friends.

Second, are you trying to tell me that there was no Serbian "ethnic cleansing" going on in Croatia or Bosnia-Herzegovina prior to 1995? Do you even know who invented the term "ethnic cleansing?" Here's a hint: it was a Serb commander, describing what his forces were doing. And then the worm turned, and Croatian forces did it to Serbs in Krajina, and the Muslims did it to Serbs in Bosnia. Croats did beastly things to Serbs in World War II; so did Bosnian Muslims. That doesn't excuse anyone else's actions later on.

You know, it's really funny to watch a supposed "anti-communist" on Free Republic put on the Monica kneepads for a dedicated communist...

46 posted on 12/17/2001 3:45:40 PM PST by Poohbah
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Wow. Such insightful debating technique. Does your mommy know you're posting naughty words using her AOL account?
47 posted on 12/17/2001 3:48:00 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Mercuria
Naw, I just want to waste 'em all so Christiane Amanapour, the Official War Slut of CNN, can die of apoplexy on camera...
49 posted on 12/17/2001 3:49:11 PM PST by Poohbah
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