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No offence, but Muslims love Jesus as much as Christians do
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 12/19/2001 | John Casey

Posted on 12/18/2001 4:10:48 PM PST by Pokey78

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1 posted on 12/18/2001 4:10:48 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Does this include ObL??? Yeah, right. . .
3 posted on 12/18/2001 4:19:51 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: plastic
I sure hope you are joking...
4 posted on 12/18/2001 4:21:51 PM PST by Eccl 10:2
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To: Pokey78
Islam is the most successful of the Christian heresies.
5 posted on 12/18/2001 4:23:24 PM PST by docmcb
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To: Pokey78
I have knelt before Shiva in his temple in Varanasi.

I have worshipped the Sacred Cobra at the temple of the wife of Shiva in Hardiwar--and in the bardo state--and in past lives. I always will.

But Jesus Christ is the only Mediator and Advocate Whom I will ever accept and the only One to Whom I will entrust my soul.

He is my Guide. It is He Who took me to Varanasi and taught me. And to Hardiwar.

I am His. He is Mine. No matter what life brings, or death, He leads me to God. I will follow Him anywhere.

He will lead you too.

6 posted on 12/18/2001 4:24:03 PM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Pokey78
No offence, but Muslims love Jesus as much as Christians do

Nonsense. They don't love the "real" Jesus. They are only in love with their stunted idea of Him.

7 posted on 12/18/2001 4:24:11 PM PST by Gritty
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To: docmcb
Islam is the most successful of the Christian heresies.

Hear, Hear!


8 posted on 12/18/2001 4:26:17 PM PST by Bosco
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To: Pokey78
not the Jesus who was the Son of God, admittedly

That kinda misses the point then don't it? I have conversed with quite a few Muslims, and they will proclaim that Jesus was a prophet, but not the Son of God. They often use lines like. "How can Jesus have been God when he asked God for help?"

9 posted on 12/18/2001 4:26:39 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Pokey78
Those who deny the Divinity of Christ are merely saying Jesus was a good man.

Read the chapter of John and see who Jesus really is!

10 posted on 12/18/2001 4:28:23 PM PST by texson66
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To: Pokey78
Jesus' cousin, John the Baptist is also some sort of Muslim prophet. I once saw a group of Muslims praying to a box that contained the head of John the Baptist in a mosgue in Damacas.
11 posted on 12/18/2001 4:28:53 PM PST by bayourod
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To: docmcb
"The greatness of Islam is that we combine Judaism and Christianity

Islam could be viewed as a Christian heresy, except: I don't think the Prophet [TUB] claimed to be Christian to begin with, so Islam is not a heresy, not on this planet, anyway.

12 posted on 12/18/2001 4:29:30 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: Pokey78
One other thing: since Muslims deny the Crucifixion

What utter nonsense; to claim that Mohammedans love Jesus as much as Christians do, and then to deny His saving death on the Cross. The crucifixion is the reason Jesus was born: it was through His death that our sins are forgiven and Heaven is opened to us. "Islam" can't save, Jesus does.

13 posted on 12/18/2001 4:30:18 PM PST by KJMorgan
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To: Pokey78
In denying the divinity of Christ, Ilsam denies the very essence of Christianity.

This fact establishes a contradiction that cannot be reconciled in theology or belief.

While it may be true that a pious and moral Muslim can live in harmony next to a pious and moral Christian and that they can maintain a secular peace (which is a very ood thing) ... particularly when the Muslim does not belong to a sect that literally believes and practices jihad and the Christian actually practices a true earthly walk in the footsteps of Christ ... it is not true that their theology or belief system with respect to Christ Jesus is close. In fact, as I have stated, from that perspective it is unreconcilable.

14 posted on 12/18/2001 4:31:19 PM PST by Jeff Head
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He was God and man - Only God could live without sin and only God could pay the ultimate sacrifice for our sins.

What can we or any man do by our own merits to enter the kingdom of heaven?

15 posted on 12/18/2001 4:32:00 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: Pokey78
I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. IMO, this is the biggest piece of propaganda I have read since 9/11.

If this was true, why are the Christians being pursued and slaughtered by the thousands by Muslims in Indonesia?

Islamic Nations Slaughter, Enslave Christians

16 posted on 12/18/2001 4:33:51 PM PST by dansangel
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To: texson66
Those who deny the Divinity of Christ are merely saying Jesus was a good man.

I would say that in light of the claims Jesus made about himself, he never left anyone with the option of thinking of him as merely a good man. He claimed to be God, so either He is a raving lunatic, or He is exactly who He said He is. People must decide which, but the "good man" thing, really is not a viable choice.

17 posted on 12/18/2001 4:34:15 PM PST by Mark17
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Oh, yeah, Jesus is certainly mentioned in the Qu'ran and so are Christians:

O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah anything but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was no more than a Messenger of Allah… Do not say "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is One God: Glory be to Him: far exalted is He above having a son. 4:171

From those too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the Message that was sent to them: so We estranged them, with enmity and hatred between one and the other, to the Day of Judgment. And soon will Allah show them what they have done. 5:14

In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. 5:17

O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them for friendship is of them. 5:51

They do blaspheme who say: "God is Christ the son of Mary." They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three in a trinity: for there is no God except one God Allah. If they do not desist from their word of blasphemy, verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. Christ the son of Mary was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. 5:72- 73, 5:75

18 posted on 12/18/2001 4:35:13 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Heartlander
What can we or any man do by our own merits to enter the kingdom of heaven?

According to Muslims? Proclaim that there is one God, and he is Allah, and that Mohammed is His prophet.

19 posted on 12/18/2001 4:35:44 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Mark17
People never tire of trotting out that false dichotomy.
20 posted on 12/18/2001 4:36:10 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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