YOO-HOO Washington Post / Bin Laden "in our crosshairs" 3X, but couldn't get kill order from clinton

Delta Force pilot, Free Republic ^ | 12-20-01 | Mia T

[Mia T]

12-20-01

YOO-HOO Washington Post / Barton Gellman

 

Delta Force pilot:

Bin Laden was "in our crosshairs" 3 times during Clinton years, but couldn't get kill order from higher up.

From the article...

Three times after Aug. 20, 1998, when Clinton ordered the only missile strike of his presidency against bin Laden's organization, the CIA came close enough to pinpointing bin Laden that Clinton authorized final preparations to launch. In each case, doubts about the intelligence aborted the mission...

More than once, advisers recall, Clinton sounded out Gen. Henry H. Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, about the prospect of using Special Forces to surprise bin Laden's fighters on the ground. But Clinton declined to authorize the large-scale operation that Shelton said would be required, and he chose not to order a less ambitious option to which the general would have objected.

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Amid all of the spin there are germs of truth...

I've been sitting on some info under the "loose lips" principle, but this article makes that no longer necessary. An Academy buddy of my cousin, himself a former Air Force pilot, is a Delta Force pilot. According to him, we had bin Laden "in our crosshairs" three times during the Clinton years, but couldn't get the kill order from higher up. His conclusion from the field was the reason for this failure was nothing more than a lack of the political will to get the job done.

Which leads, yet again, to the obvious question:

Would the attacks of 9/11 have happened, had President Clinton been up to the job with which he was entrusted?

7 posted on 12/18/01 10:12 PM Pacific by Sabertooth

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I can't imagine that they would have happened if Clinton had done the job. 9/11 was the culmination of a series of increasingly brazen attacks on our interests, going all the way back to the original WTC bombing. As each attack happened, we were being watched by our enemies. They listened to what we said, but they really paid attention to what we did. And they eventually drew the conclusion that we were too weak and too soft to hit them back.

It's painfully clear now that we didn't do nearly enough. Clinton didn't have the intestinal fortitude to do what Bush is doing now. Why? There are probably a lot of reasons: his 60's mentality and its accompanying disdain for the military; his addiction to polls; his preoccupation with crushing his enemies; his pursuit of personal pleasure; or his lack of interest in foreign policy. But I think the biggest reason of all is this: Bill Clinton, at his most basic level, is a weak, soft man, afraid to put his precious self at risk, more given to talk than to action. He was weak and soft at a time when he needed to be strong and resolute, and 9/11 was the result. He deserves nothing but contempt.

Gee, I guess character does matter, after all.

53 posted on 12/19/01 10:23 PM Pacific by Rainbow Rising

Q ERTY3 BUMP! 

 

Delta Force pilot: [W]e had bin Laden "in our crosshairs" three times during the Clinton years, but couldn't get the kill order from higher up.--Sabertooth

 

Bill Clinton, at his most basic level, is a weak, soft man, afraid to put his precious self at risk--Rainbow Rising

COWARD

by Mia T

clinton is the quintessential coward. He is especially cowardly about acts physical, notwithstanding (or, more accurately, underscored by) an apparent facility in committing rapes, predations and willful, premeditated, opportunistic killings (e.g., the Sudan bombing, the Ricky Ray Rector execution). . .

clinton cowardice knows no geographic bounds. We saw clinton cowardice in the Balkans...

 

We saw clinton cowardice in Africa...

 

It was caught on videotape there. Remember? Remember the fear, the abject hatred on clinton's Mr.-Hyde-transmogrified face? (His real face!) Remember the angry screams directed to the (in fact pro-clinton) black crowd as they came too close to his podium?

I suspect clinton cowardice accounted for the cancellation of his trip to Greece with its streets teeming with anti-clinton demonstrators. Greeks were trying clinton in effigy for his wag-the-dog, desperately-seeking-a-legacy mass murders in the Balkans.

The world has clinton figured out: He is small, a greasy character, a degenerate, a delusional if opportunistic narcissist, a predatory adolescent, a backwoods buffoon; but most of all, he is a coward. If he won't go to Greece, with all the protections of the presidency, where will he go when we are finally rid of him? (Will we ever be finally rid of him?)

(That the backwoods, backroom duo thought they could spin the world as they did Arkansas is a measure of their stupidity. They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiber-optic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.)

Poetic justice in the end: clinton--both clintons, in fact--will be prisoners, both Cartesian and Freudian, of their own depravity, imprisioned in the hermetic confines of an evil, narcissistic life. Their world will finally and fittingly become as small as they, themselves, are.

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The Placebo President (aided and abetted by the media myrmidons of the left) strikes again...

by Mia T

 

What is most interesting about clinton's revisionist leak to the Washington Post that the impeached ex-president has decided that incompetency is a preferable legacy to idiocy or a sui generis narcissistic sedition.

The Covert Hunt for bin Laden
Broad Effort Launched After '98 Attacks

By Barton Gellman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 19, 2001; Page A01

 

First of two articles

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TO BE CONTINUED...

compulsive clinton CYA-ing CONTINUES

(so does 4th-estate malfeasance)

Q ERTY6 REALITY CHECK!

 

 

 

hillary's head revisited:

hillary clinton's brain (such as it is) II

 by Mia T

The smartest woman in the world would relish "the raucous give and take of American democracy, " as Charles Kuralt once put it.

hillary clinton, by contrast, subsists on cozy clintonoid interviews of the Colmes kind...

In her new book, Political Fictions, Joan Didion indicts the fakery of access journalism practiced by vacant politicos like the clintons, whom she sees as "purveyors of fables of their own making, or worse, fables conceived by political strategists with designs on votes, not news."

(More Didion: "No one who ever passed through an American public high school could have watched William Jefferson Clinton running for office in 1992 and failed to recognize the familiar predatory sexuality of the provincial adolescent.")

 

 

Just look around this chamber. We have members from virtually every racial, ethnic, and religious background. And America is stronger for it. But as we have seen, these differences all too often spark hatred and division, even here at home. . . This is not the American way. We must draw the line. Without delay, we must pass the Hate Crimes Prevention Act and the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. And we should reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

bill clinton, State of Union Speech, January 27, 2000

"I'm sorry, but the president is one of the crudest men I have ever encountered in government service," says one female agent. "He has no respect for women."

Among the comments clinton made in presence of Secret Service agents:

. Frequent speculation on the oral sex skills of women

the president saw or met in receiving lines;

. References to the size of a woman's breasts, legs or figure;

. Sexual jokes.

After the Monica Lewinsky story broke, however, clinton toned down his rhetoric and behavior in front of his Secret Service agents, but those who guarded the president say enough of them saw and heard things which could be damaging to clinton.

"It depends on who Ken Starr calls," says one ex-agent. "The people who are on the job today are not necessarily the ones who know the most."

Turnover In clinton's Secret Service Detail 'Highest That Anyone Can Remember'

In the months that follow, reporters drop the issue. Feminists say little or nothing. Rape crisis center workers acknowledge that Broaddrick's case, including her reluctance to come forward, is typical of victims of sexual assault. But they decline to speak against clinton. Some cite the federal funding they receive as a result of the Violence Against Women Act, which was signed into law by clinton.

Why does the press continue to ignore the Juanita Broaddrick story?

 

 

The Placebo President:

How a Rapist can be a Policy Feminist

 

placebo effect n.

A beneficial effect in a patient following a particular treatment

that arises from the patient's expectations concerning

the treatment rather than from the treatment itself.

 

Every woman adores a Fascist,

The boot in the face, the brute

Brute heart of a brute like you.

----Sylvia Plath

 

The placebo effect immediately came to mind

as I listened to Shelby Steele,

a research fellow at the Hoover Institution,

debunk the following pernicious spin intended to save clinton.

To wit:

A proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president;

clinton can be a failed human being but a good president.

 

The error in these statements arises, says Steele,

from the belief that

virtuousness is separate from personal responsibility

so that one's virtuousness as an individual is determined by

one's political positions on issues rather than on

whether or not in one's personal life there is a

consistency and a responsibility.

 

Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization,

rather than being the amazing advantage

the clintons would have us believe,

in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.

 

If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous

then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic,

that is to say they just represent virtuousness.

They don't necessarily do virtuous things.

 

If clinton's semantic parsing strips meaning from our words,

clinton's iconographic policies strip meaning from our society,

systematically deconstructing our society as a democracy. . .

 

I would take Shelby Steele's thesis one step further.

I maintain that iconographic policy functions like a placebo,

producing a real, physiological and social effects.

 

The placebo effect is, after all, the brain's triumph over reality.

Expectation alone can produce powerful physiological results.

The placebo effect was, at one time, an evolutionary advantage:

act now, think later

 

bill clinton is the paradigmatic Placebo President.

Placebo is Latin for "I shall please."

And please he does

doling out sham treatments, iconographs, with abandon.

To please, to placate, to numb, to deflect.

Ultimately to showcase his imagined virtue.

Or to confute his genuine vice.

 

clinton will dispense sugar pills (or bombs)

at the drop of a high-heeled shoe...

or at the hint of high treason...

 

clinton's charlatanry mimics that of primitive medicine.

Through the 1940s, doctors had little effective medicine to offer

so they deliberately attempted to induce the placebo response.

 

The efficaciousness of today's medicines

does not diminish the power of the placebo.

A recent review of placebo-controlled studies

found that placebos and genuine treatments

are often equally effective.

If you expect to get better, you will.

 

Which brings me back to the original question:

Can clinton be a failed human being but a good president?

 

Clearly he cannot.

These two propositions are mutually exclusive.

clinton's fundamental failure is a complete lack of integrity.

He has violated his covenant with the American people.

 

Because clinton has destroyed his moral authority as a leader,

he can no longer function even as a quack;

the placebo effect is gone.

And so the Placebo President must now go, too.

 

 

Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize

 

 

Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person to be president.

---GEORGE WILL, Sleaze, the sequel

 

Had George Will written Sleaze, the sequel (the "sequel" is, of course, hillary) after 9-11-01, I suspect that he would have had to forgo the above conceit, as the doubt expressed in the setup phrase was, from that day forward, no longer operational.

Indeed, assessing the clinton presidency an abject failure is not inconsistent with commentary coming from the left, most recently the LA Times: "Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize."

When the clintons left office, I predicted that the country would eventually learn--sadly, the hard way--that this depraved, self-absorbed and inept pair had placed America (and the world) in mortal danger. But I was thinking years, not months.

It is very significant that hillary clinton didn't deny clinton culpability for the terrorism. (Meet the Press, 12-09-01), notwithstanding tired tactics (if you can't pass the buck, spread the blame) and chronic self-exclusion. ("I knew nuttin'.")

If leftist pandering keeps the disenfranchized down in perpetuity, clinton pandering,("it's the economy, stupid"), kept the middle and upper classes wilfully ignorant for eight years.

And ironically, both results (leftist social policy and the clinton economy) are equally illusory, fraudulent. It is becoming increasingly clear that clinton assiduously avoided essential actions that would have negatively impacted the economy--the ultimate source of his continued power--actions like, say, going after the terrorists.

It is critically important that hillary clinton fail in her grasp for power; read Peggy Noonan's little book, 'The Case Against Hillary Clinton' and Barbara Olson's two books; it is critical that the West de-clintonize, but that will be automatic once it is understood that the clintons risked civilization itself in order to gain and retain power.

It shouldn't take books, however, to see that a leader is a dangerous, self-absorbed sicko. People should be able to figure that out for themselves. The electorate must be taught to think, to reason. It must be able to spot spin, especially in this age of the electronic demagogue.

I am not hopeful. As Bertrand Russell noted, "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. "

Mia T, hillary clinton blames hubby for terrorism

(SHE knew nuttin')

Meet the Press, 12-09-01

 

 

A Fish Rots from the Head

Investor's Business Daily

 

 

Ijaz, an admitted Clinton supporter who helped negotiate these opportunities to nab bin Laden, said, "The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening."

 

Ijaz says that three months before bin Laden's men blew up the USS Cole in Yemen, he "brought the White House another plausible offer to deal with bin Laden, by then known to be involved in the embassy bombings(in Tanzania and Kenya)... But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer."

 

Clinton's apparent boredom with vital information extended beyond Sudanese intelligence officers to his own intelligence officers. His first CIA director, James Woolsey, couldn't get a meeting with Clinton in the two years he served. Woolsey left the Clinton administration disgusted with

its slovenly approach to national security. ...

 

To hear Clinton now say "We must do more to reduce the pool of potential

terrorists" is thus beyond farce. He had numerous opportunities to reduce

that pool, and he blew it.

 

The pool, in fact, grew larger on Clinton's watch, as he spent his final days giving pardons to drug dealers, Puerto Rican terrorists and Marc Rich, a fugitive who topped America's most-wanted list.

 

In this light, Clinton's order to the CIA that it not use "unsavory characters" to collect information pushes irony to its outer limits.

Also:

The Left is redolent with the peculiar stench of sinking-ship-jumping 'Rats

[Mia T]

Q ERTY1 ping

[MeekOneGOP]

BUMP! This was part I. When's part II comin' out???

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

It's so hard to know where you stand regarding Clinton. =]

[Shenandoah]

THE CULPABILITY OF WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON

[Elle Bee]

CLICK on Janet Reno's MiniMe - Clinton's terrorism prosecutor:

[Mary Jo] White Put Politics Before Prosecution ~ Kelly Patricia O’ Meara - Insight Magazine

.

Click on Clinton's latest stained lady and go to: That's Rich - Will Mary Jo White find out if Clinton took cash for pardons? ~ WSJ.

Mary Jo White ~ Janet Reno's MiniMe

.

DOJ Under Janet Ashcroft - Has Anything Changed?

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[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Why do we call toilets Johns when we have a far more qualified name for them now?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Nice start. =]

[gulfcoast6]

I love it. Mia T always gets my attention.

[Delta 21]

William Jefferson Clinton - 'It depends on what the definition of "is" is.

Commander-in-Chief George Bush - In this conflict, there is no neutral ground. If any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocents, they have become outlaws and murderers, themselves. And they will take that lonely path at their own peril.

Todd Beamer - "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou [art] with me; ....Let's Roll.

Delta 21

[Mia T]

Q ERTY6 ping

[Mia T]

Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton BUMP!

"I did not have any involvement in the pardons that were granted or not granted," insisted Sen. KnowNothing, seeming to forget her presence at the New-Square/Oval-Office schmooze that secured pardons for the four Hasidic felons who set up a phony school in Brooklyn to swindle the government out of millions intended for the poor.

Mia T, Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton Effectively Pleads 5TH in Press Conference by Invoking Spousal Privilege

HEY, HEY MARY JO!

by Mia T

 

So many pardons 4 sale.

 

So many rodhams & clintons to nail.

 

Hey, hey Mary Jo!

 

Can you spell R-I-C-O?

 

Don't lose

Your head

To gain a minute

You need your head

Your brains are in it.

--an old roadside ad, Pushme-Pullyou

 

 

 

 

[jrlc]

Clinton's lies will continue. He will blame others for his failures -- "we didn't have enough public support to go after Bin Laden" (so, as President, X42 assumes he has no leadership responsibility -- just follow the polls). His wife will be worse (how many times did she say "I'm very disappointed" about her brother living in the White House attempting to sell pardons to Klintoon?). Unless 9/11 shocks the American public into booing the Klintoons for a long time, the Republicans should just bet on getting a larger war chest than Hell-ary will have when it comes time to make sure she doesn't emerge as a Presidential candidate in 2004. Her run for the Presidency in 2004 is the CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER of the Klintoons right now.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

I am glad to see this level of energy as well. Believe it or not, it's not in my nature to put people down. That will come as a shock to many. Our exposure of Clinton and the DNC took a lot out of me.

But when I see threads such as this, I feel that our efforts have achieved something very significant. Every new history book about Clinton, every new poster who rants about him, makes me feel glad to have been a part of this in the dark times.

And I'm not kidding about toilets. Why call them Johns when they should be called Clintons?

[BOBTHENAILER]

Hit him again, harder, harder.

Hit him again, harder, harder

I had the theme of NEVER FORGET, long before 911. It was instilled, ingrained and forever burned into memory for what that son of a b!tch and his minions did and tried to do to this fine country.

[BOBTHENAILER]

Nice comparison. In other words, there is no comparison. If CLINTOON had been on flight 93, he would have been cowering in the aft bathroom while true patriots did what had to be done.

[Mia T]

In my view, "clinton" analogizes less to a toilet than to its contents. ;)

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Good point. Now for usage. "I have to take a clinton." Urgh. No, I don't think people will want to say that. No one wants to say they are producing a clinton.

[RocketJsqurl]

I'd like to see Geraldo focus on bringing down this rat.He is in his rats nest in Harlem

[The Raven]

You go too easy on the Clintons for my taste.

Hang around the Free Republic some more and you'll get it.

[Mia T]

Scatologically speaking, the lexicon, like everything else this depraved family touched, is already 'clintonized.'

[InvisibleChurch]

thankx for the article . . . part of it so depressing, knowing that such a figure controlled so many lives and showed so much contempt for all of them / but i'm glad to see this article to remind me that some people are not letting him off the hook just because he is out of office / the United States needs to take a long , hot shower to rid itself of this coating of grease

[Fred Mertz]

"I have to take a clinton."

Don't forget to wipe your hillary:)

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

ROFLM-Hillary-O

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Toilet paper with Hillary's and Bubba's faces on it. I wonder if anyone made some clinton paper yet?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

If CLINTOON had been on flight 93, he would have been cowering in the aft bathroom while true patriots did what had to be done.

Worse than that, he would be offering pardons to the terrorists and ratting on the patriots in exchange for his life.

[Mia T]

Q ERTY4 bump!

"There's a rumor going around Washington that Osama bin Laden has written a letter to Clinton, asking for a pardon. I guess he doesn't know that Clinton isn't president anymore."

--Bob Dole to Jay Leno

See:

WHAT HARM CAN HE DO?

[Mia T]

low center of gravity

W I D E B O D Y

BUMP!

[OKSooner]

Thank you...

[Registered]

Great post Mia! BUMPUS!

[MinuteGal]

What does Q erty mean?

Leni

[beckett]

Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization, rather than being the amazing advantage the clintons would have us believe, in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.

If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic, that is to say they just represent virtuousness. They don't necessarily do virtuous things.

Good stuff Mia. Some of your best.

[Grampa Dave]

Money has been the controlling factor for the Clintoon even when he ran for Attorney General for the state of Arkrazy!

When it comes to OBL not being offed during the Clintoon's outhouse regime, never forget the money!

OBL and his family are Super Rich Saudis! The total family wealth is in the billions, high billions! Then the Super Rich Saudis who hate America are the Fanatics who have helped to finance OBL to get started in setting up the al_Queerdos and the Talibaners. Hell, they probably financed his election in 1992 with large gifts to the enviral organizations who insure that we are dependent on Opecker Oil. Then, these large enviral organizations acted as a key demonicRat $ laundry machine and gave large donations to help elect the Clintoon in 1992 and 1996! Look at the funding $'s that the ChiComs shoveled into the Clintoon's two campaigns!

It is probably a safe bet that Clintoon and his dragon b$tch Hilldebeast have been receiving money since he became #42 from the Super Rich Arabs, the OBL family and probably OBL to insure the safety of OBL!

So the Clintoon with Jake Reno's help made the white male Christians who owned guns and MicroSoft the number one and number terror priorities to the US from 1993 to Jan 2001!

Then Leaky Leahy, Biden, the Torch and other left wing senators deballed and made the CIA into a pink panty wearing PC/Diversity training organization. The CIA held Diversity training sessions and Diversity Quiltiing parties instead of collecting intel on the bad guys! Our spy satellites were Goron's toys/tools to try and prove the evils of Global Warming!

The Former Bureau of Investigation under Jake Reno became so ineffective that they enlisted the killer of the three poor women in the Yosemite killings to help them. They were focusing on a Biker gang instead of doing basic detective work! Good old Jake insured that the FBI from Feb 1993 to Jan 2001 became the Former Bureau of Investigation again with the pink panty people rising to the top and the middle of the Former Bureau of Investigation!

Yeah the Clintoons are and still are traitors. However, we need to start focusing on the money trail from the super rich Arabs who hate America. The same ones who financed OBL and enabled him to set up the el_Queerdos and the Talibaners IMHO have been paying protection money to the Clintoons for a long time~!

When it comes to the Clintoons and any top DemonicRat senator/politician, just follow the money! From Tyson Chicken to the Super Rich Saudis who hate America/Americans!

[river rat]

America's war against terrorism, corruption, marxism, crime and oppressive government - will not be over - until we can stand at ease and piss on the Clinton's graves.
Semper Fi

[sandydipper]

The boy is pond scum and I am sooo proud of you for making it known. He belongs in JAIL.

[StarFan]

From Tyson Chicken to the Super Rich Saudis who hate America/Americans! Guess X42 won't be getting his Christmas bonus from Tyson while their in the throes of explaining the smuggling of illegal aliens across the Mexican boarder.

Thanks for the ping Mia. Let's hope Leslie (lips attached to xlintoon's butt)Stahl gets to read this article as well as the Vanity Fair article which should be out shortly (or has it come out?).

[aculeus]

Left breathless (by your talents) bump!

[Grampa Dave]

Yep, you are probably correct! Tyson will not be sending the X42 and the Hilldebeast their Christmas Bonuses.

That money will be used to hire the best left wing demonicRat lawyers in the land to make Tyson appear to a kindly company for trucking illegals to their foul butchering plants and hiring them. La Raza and the left wingers will work 24/7 praising the kindly hiring of illegal aliens by the wonderful Tysons/Tyson pieces of foul chicken company! Foul Fowl butchered and packed by illegals who never had to take a physical to work. Germs and Viruses added at no charge in your Tyson foul chicken parts!

[StarFan]

Guess X42 won't be getting his Christmas bonus from Tyson while their in the throes of ...." Ooops, while they're in the throes of!! I always seem to find my errors after the fact.

That money will be used to hire the best left wing demonicRat lawyers in the land

Ha! But aren't they going to be busy make Jihad Johnny look like an altar boy?

[Grampa Dave]

SF posted: " Ha! But aren't they going to be busy making Jihad Johnny look like an altar boy?"

Yeah, but no problem. They will use the standard formula of making the good people look bad thanks to their buddies the left wing maggots. Then, they will make Johnny Jihad look like a misguided angel! Then, they will blame, GW, Reagan, Newt, you, me and other conservatives. OBL will painted as the second you know what! Big tobacco, Ken Starr, the NRA and the KKK will be blamed!

There are more than enough left wing demonicRat trial lawyers to handle Tyson and Johnny Jihad.

Speaking money trails, weren't the demonicRat Trial lawyers the largest $ donating group for Goron?

One final question on money and lawyers. Apparently Johnny Jihad's sugar daddy is a middle level lawyer for PG&E. His daddy is apparently a homosexual living with another left winger guy. His mother is the typical brain dead and skilless Marin County left wing woman without any skills to bring in a good pay check. So Daddy is strapped for cash as he has to maintain two homes hers and his.

So who is financing one of the West Coasts most expensive left wing demonicRat trial lawyers to defend Johnny Jihad? It ain't his dysfunctional marvelous Marin Parents!

[Mia T]

Q ERTY4 BUMP!

Regarding the terrorist $$$ sluicing into their campaign coffers, the brazen clintons don't even bother to launder.

How Hillary Clinton Has Misled New Yorkers: Timeline

 

NEW YORK, NY - The Lazio Campaign today revealed a timeline showing how Hillary Clinton has misled New Yorkers about her association with individuals who have expressed support for the terrorist organizations Hezbollah and Hamas.

May 24, 2000 Hillary Clinton receives $1,000 contribution from pro-Hamas, pro-Hezbollah, Abdurahman Alamoudi

June 13, 2000 Mrs. Clinton attends fundraiser in Boston, organized by the American Muslim Alliance, and accepts $50,000 in contributions and a plaque from the group

August 8, 2000 Hillary Clinton sends a thank you note to the American Muslim Alliance for the plaque

October 25, 2000 New York Daily News reports that Mrs. Clinton attended fundraiser sponsored by the American Muslim Alliance, that she received $50,000 in contributions at the fundraiser, that Abdurahman Alamoudi gave Mrs. Clinton $1,000. Clinton Spokesman Howard Wolfson says Mrs. Clinton will return the $1,000 contribution from Alamoudi. Story also notes that Alamoudi was invited to the White House by Hillary Clinton.

October 26, 2000 NY Newspapers report that Hillary Clinton says she will return the $50,000 in donations. Daily News says, "Clinton said she routinely accepts such plaques - then stores them away. ëIíve been given literally thousands of plaques,í she said."

October 28, 2000 Lazio Campaign releases page 10 of Mrs. Clintonís FEC June 30 report that shows Mrs. Clinton filed Alamoudiís employer as the "American Museum Council," not the "American Muslim Council." Appearing at an event with Rick Lazio, Governor Pataki says, "Mrs. Clinton should say why she filed this under the American Museum Council, not the American Muslim Council."

October 28, 2000 Alamoudi speaks at a rally in front of the White House and says "I wish they added I am a supporter of Hezbollah. Anybody supports Hezbollah here?"

October 29, 2000 NY Newspapers report that Clinton campaign uses the excuse that the "American Museum Council" was a "typo." Lazio Campaign notes that when Mayor Giuliani had a similar misfiling on his FEC report, Howard Wolfson said, "The Mayor, I believe, signs these forms and is responsible for whatís in them."

October 31, 2000 (a.m.) Daily News reports that Alamoudi has been employed by Clinton State Department as "a goodwill ambassador abroad, giving lectures on religious tolerance in the U.S."

October 31, 2000 (p.m.) Fox News Channel breaks story of October 28 rally and notes that Nehod Atwad, another person Mrs. Clinton has invited to the White House spoke at the rally. Fox shows videotape of Mr. Atwad stating, "I am a supporter of the Hamas movement now more than ever."

November 2, 2000 Despite heavy lobbying from the President and Mrs. Clinton, Democratic Assemblyman Dov Hikind refuses to endorse his Democratic party member. NY Times reports that Mrs. Clinton refuses to discuss non-endorsement.

November 3, 2000 Letter from Mrs. Clinton to the American Muslim Alliance on White House Stationery thanking group for the plaque surfaces. Only after being questioned by reporters, the Clinton campaign releases the letter.

November 4, 2000 All NYC dailies report on the letter. Clinton camp tells Daily News that after the story of the fundraiser first surfaced, they "checked the White House archives but failed at that time to find any letter."

"After receiving queries from news organizations that received the faxed letter, Wolfson said campaign aides returned and discovered the previously missed document," the Daily News reports.

Nov 4, 2000

Lazio Campaign News Release, Lazio.com

0/31/00 3:45 p.m.

National Review

 

No Easy Ride for Hillary!

Her reluctance to speak candidly is her biggest obstacle.

 

By Deroy Murdock, a columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service

 

As New Yorkers prepare to elect a new U.S. senator on November

7, Hillary Rodham Clinton remains hounded by twin suspicions about her

honesty and commitment to Israel. Her plunging support among Jewish

voters in a recent survey suggests that these nagging questions may be

causing grave damage to her Senate candidacy.

 

Mrs. Clinton fueled these lingering doubts in November 1999 when she

kissed Yasser Arafat's wife, Suha, immediately after Mrs. Arafat

delivered a speech accusing Israel of murdering Arab children &emdash; with

poison gas, no less. Mrs. Clinton said she did not understand the

simultaneous translation of Mrs. Arafat's Arabic remarks. In any case,

why the smooch? Given the PLO's legacy of violence, wouldn't a

handshake have sufficed?

 

Mrs. Clinton sparked further questions when she claimed that she asked

President Clinton to veto an anti-Israel resolution in the United

Nations Security Council on October 7. The U.S. abstained instead.

But did she really urge that veto, or simply concoct that story

afterward to limit the damage to her candidacy after the abstention drew

fire? Mrs. Clinton has been very uncomfortable discussing this

matter. When I asked her about this at an October 17 Council on Foreign

Relations meeting, she huffed: "That question does not even deserve a

response. I have said everything about that I have to say."

 

Now Hillary Clinton has puzzled Jewish voters and friends of Israel with

yet another stumble. The New York Daily News reported on October

25 that her Senate campaign has returned $50,000 collected at a Boston

fundraiser attended by Muslims and Americans of Arab descent. The First

Lady posed for photos holding a plaque given to her by the event's

organizers. It expressed the appreciation of the American Muslim

Alliance for her human-rights activism. Mrs. Clinton now says she

didn't know the award was from the Alliance, even though the group's

name was emblazoned on the trophy in large letters. "I get handed

thousands of plaques," Mrs. Clinton now says. Alas for the First Lady,

the American Muslim Alliance's national president, Agha Saeed, favors

the Palestinian struggle for independence from Israel and believes the

Palestinians "have the right to resist by armed force."

 

Mrs. Clinton has hosted events at the Executive Mansion "to which

individuals opposed to the Mideast peace process and Israel's existence

were invited," the Daily News reported. Her Senate campaign returned a

$1,000 contribution from one of those visitors, Abduraham Alamoudi of

the American Muslim Council. According to the Daily News, Alamoudi once

declared: "We are the ones who went to the White House and defended what

is called Hamas," the Palestinian terrorist group whose 1994-1996

suicide-bombing campaign killed 130 people and wounded some 600 others.

Shortly after one of its bombs exploded in Jerusalem in August 1997,

Alamoudi told Fox News about Hamas: "I think it's a freedom-fighting

organization."

 

Mrs. Clinton's June 30, 2000 Federal Election Commission filing cited

Alamoudi's May 25 donation of $1,000 to her war chest. Oddly enough,

his occupation is not listed as "American Muslim Council" but "American

Museum Council." The Clinton campaign calls this a typo. (To see

Alamoudi's contribution record, search under his surname here.)

 

A reasonable voter might give another candidate the benefit of the doubt

here. But this is the same Hillary Rodham Clinton who is associated

with the "bureaucratic snafu" that led to Filegate.

 

This is the same First Lady whose Rose Law Firm billing records vanished

for two years, then magically reappeared in the White House residence

just days after the Resolution Trust Corporation concluded a

Whitewater-related probe in which the records would have been relevant.

"I do not know how the billing records came to be found where they were

found," the First Lady shrugged back in January 1996.

 

This is the same woman who special prosecutor Robert Ray believes gave

deceptive sworn testimony in the Travelgate affair. As Ray's October 18

report concludes: Mrs. Clinton "played a role in the decision to fire

the [White House Travel Office] employees and…thus, her statement to the

contrary under oath to this office is factually false."

 

As Bill Clinton's presidency wanes, a Hillary Clinton Senate term could

be waxing around the corner. For now, her Republican opponent stands in

the way. In a Zogby poll published October 31 in the New York Post,

Rep. Rick Lazio led the Dutchess of Chappaqua 47.8 percent to 42.9

(margin of error: plus or minus 3.8 percent).

 

Mrs. Clinton's collapsing popularity among Jewish voters also spells

trouble. On October 29, Zogby found her leading among Jews by 68.8

percent to 27.3 for Lazio. (Margin of error: plus or minus 4 percent).

Two days later, in the aforementioned October 31 poll, only 46 percent

of Jews favored Mrs. Clinton while Lazio's support climbed to 45

percent.

 

But the biggest obstacle between Hillary Clinton and her Capitol Hill

dreams may be her reluctance to speak candidly about the scandals that

nip at her heels like Park Avenue poodles. New Yorkers soon may decide

that they deserve better in the Senate than a politician's wife who

parachuted into the Empire State with ambitions nearly as awesome as her

allergy to the truth.

 

 

The woman who undid the peace

San Francisco Examiner
10-27-2000

James Lafferty

James Lafferty is an independent journalist in Washington. E-mail: jameslafferty@usa.net.

By James Lafferty

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A leading U.S. newspaper recently carried a commentary titled "The Men Who Undid The Mideast Peace," which placed the blame squarely on Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak's predecessor.

A more accurate version might well have read "The Woman Who Undid The Mideast Peace." It would have placed the blame squarely on the person who persuaded her close friend Sandy Berger and her husband, Bill Clinton, to push Barak into concessions that have triggered the Palestinians' new jihad against Israel.

Make no mistake. Hillary Rodham Clinton has been a staunch supporter of the Palestine Liberation Front since her "romantic radical" undergraduate days at Wellesley. Those radicals -- most of them the indulged sons and daughters of America's upper class -- viewed Arafat, a committed terrorist who has transformed the Palestinian territory into a thugocracy, as a "freedom fighter."

Some of those radicals, of course, grew up as they entered adulthood. Clinton, unfortunately, did not. She was the first major voice in the Clinton administration to call for a Palestinian state and, according to White House sources, she was the leading behind-the-scenes force for openly backing Barak over Netanyahu -- an unprecedented interference in the internal politics of a friendly democracy.

It was Clinton who gazed admiring as Suha Arafat committed a blood libel against the people of the Israel by accusing the Israeli government of employing toxic gas against Palestinian women and children. Far from denouncing such outrageous rhetoric, Clinton embraced Arafat's wife and kissed her cheek.

White House sources also say the first lady was the first to suggest that the president dispatch political strategists James Carville and Stan Greenburg to Israel to aid Barak's election bid.

They also acknowledge that it was she who suggested the administration pressure Barak to cede 90 percent of Israel's hard-won "buffer zones" on the West Bank and to agree to making Jerusalem a divided city.

Worse, far worse, the administration acted on her advice in persuading Barak to assent to an open-door "right-of-return" policy for the sons and daughters of Palestinians living in Israel prior to 1948. That terribly naive concession has the potential to double Israel's population within a decade -- giving the Palestinians the demographic upper hand in any election.

Would they then vote for measures to guarantee Jews equitable status or would they vote to confiscate their lands and expel them?

To ask the question is to answer it. An unlimited "right-to-return" concession would mean the end of Israel as a Jewish religious state, and Clinton surely knows that.

Is it any wonder that she was booed vigorously at a recent rally of Jewish Democrats and is studiously avoiding any uncontrolled public gatherings where her presence would evoke a similar response?

That includes, of course, the World Series, where Clinton, a longstanding Yankees' fan, cannot afford to show up at either Shea Stadium or the "House that Ruth Built."

No wonder polls currently show her holding only a slim lead among the Empire State's crucial bloc of Jewish voters -- a group of yellow-dog Democrats that normally should be in her camp by a landslide margin.

In fact, if her longtime pal Bob Shrum hadn't persuaded Al Gore to leapfrog Joe Lieberman over several front-running vice-presidential candidates, she could well be tied or trailing.

Rick Lazio, the youthful congressman from Long Island, still trails Clinton in statewide polls, but he is starting to pick up steam as he campaigns in traditionally Republican upstate New York.

It would not beggar anyone's imagination to see Lazio squeak by on Election Day. If that happens, part of his boost over the top will come from upstate Republicans returning to the fold. But equally significant aid may well be coming from Jewish New Yorkers increasingly aware of the identity of the woman who undid the peace process by pushing for such an untenable peace in the first place.

 

Posted on 10/29/2000 09:34:47 PST by BobS

He said Clinton's forceful criticism of Arafat during the last few weeks has not made him regret his group's decision to support her.

"The idea is to win the election," he said. "[So] she must change her tune. But that doesn't mean anything. It's just at the spur of the moment that she must say these things, and we understand that."

Hillary handed 50 grand by Israel's sworn enemies

 

"Boston, June 13, 2000 - The American Muslim Alliance Massachusetts chapter held a successful fund-raiser for First Lady Hillary Clinton at the Park Plaza Hotel in Boston on June 13, 2000. . .

And Hillary clearly understood that her hosts were concerned the U.S. war on terrorism might be too harsh.

In her speech, "Mrs. Clinton vowed to pursue fairness and justice in the issue of secret evidence and the Anti-Terrorism Act," the AMA Web report notes.

Then there's the $1,000 contribution the first lady accepted (then returned this week) from Abdurahman Alamoudi, the American Muslim Council official who attended the Boston event. "We are the ones who went to the White House and defended what is called Hamas," the New York Daily News says Alamoudi once boasted.

Beyond trying to cover up her fund raising with Arafat sympathizers, Mrs. Clinton may have even attempted to hide Alamoudi's American Muslim Council ties. Her campaign's FEC filing actually lists Alamoudi's employer as "The American Museum Council."

ALERT NY JEWS! HILLARY CLINTON COVERS UP $$$ & SUPPORT from PRO-ARAB TERRORIST GROUPS

Hillary Caught in Pro-Arafat Fund-Raising Cover-Up

MUSLIM DONORS CITE E-MAIL: Say Hil Camp Knew 50G Fund-Raiser Was Theirs

News/Current Events News Keywords: HILLARY CLINTON, MUSLIM DONATIONS
Source: New York Daily News
Published: October 28, 2000 Author: Larry Cohler-Esses
Posted on 10/28/2000 03:40:12 PDT by Penny

 

A Muslim group whose leader approves of armed Palestinian resistance to Israel disputed Hillary Rodham Clinton's assertion that she didn't know the group sponsored a Boston fund-raiser for her.

The group provided an e-mail yesterday to show there had been contact between the organization and the Clinton campaign the day before the event.

Tahir Ali, chairman of the Massachusetts chapter of the American Muslim Alliance, spoke with Clinton campaign finance director David Rosen on the eve of the June 13 Boston fund-raiser, according to the text of an e-mail Ali sent to his members that same day.

"I just talked to David Rosen, financial director," the e-mail says. "He indicated that Mrs. Clinton will be at the Park Plaza Hotel before 3:30 p.m. tomorrow. [So] try to be there before that."

Ali provided the e-mail to the Daily News after the Clinton campaign insisted that the American Muslim Alliance did not sponsor the fund-raiser, which the organization says generated $50,000 for her Senate campaign. The campaign is returning the money.

Ali has conceded that his group was not the original sponsor of the event, but said it assumed sponsorship about a week before it took place.

A spokesman for Clinton, who accepted a plaque from the group in Boston, insisted yesterday that the campaign was not aware that the American Muslim Alliance sponsored the event.

When asked about Ali's e-mail citing his conversation with Rosen, Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said, "He [Rosen] does not remember speaking with Mr. Ali, but in any case that is irrelevant. When we found out that this organization claimed credit for hosting the event, we decided to return the money raised at it."

Clinton's contact with the anti-Israel group has jolted her campaign, which has been courting Jewish voters and in recent weeks has condemned Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat for failing to halt a wave of Mideast violence.

Ali's e-mail provided new details about the relationship the alliance was seeking to forge with the First Lady.

"We plan to ask her to include a few 'qualified' Muslims in her campaign," the e-mail informed its members. It notes also that the national chairman of the alliance, Agha Saeed, wanted to invite Clinton to be keynote speaker at the group's upcoming national convention.

Saeed has said in interviews that while he supports Palestinian efforts to gain a state through peace talks, if this fails he backs their right to use armed force in accordance with a UN resolution that he says endorses this.

The state Republican Party is trying to capitalize on the issue by hiring a phone-bank company to call voters with Jewish names.

Reading from scripts, the solicitors identify themselves as working for the GOP and accuse Clinton of taking $50,000 from a group supportive of anti-Israel terrorists.

With Joel Siegel

All information copyrighted.

The clintons' fundamental error: They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiberoptic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.

Mia T

Mindless rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy

 

 

"Hillary's people are very bright," said a well-connected Democrat yesterday. "But they think everybody else is stupid."

Stupid is as stupid does, says Off the Record. . .

OFF THE RECORD: AN OLD DOG NEEDS NEW TRICKS

 

Don't lose

Your head

To gain a minute

You need your head

Your brains are in it.

--an old roadside ad, Pushme-Pullyou

 

 

 

 

[Grampa Dave]

Great documentation of the greed of the Clintoons and the Hildebeast in particular!

One can only imagine the amount of money hidden in numbered accounts around the world given to the Clintoons as insurance from being offed, investigated and arrested!

[nutmeg]

Wow, interesting stuff (as usual), Mia! Thanks for the article and the ping.

[f.Christian]

Four, too many people in the last 35 years have devised a delusional system whereby they look upon reality and pleas to take basic responsibility as an oppressive right-wing conspiracy. They have been supported in this belief by the media instead of having it challenged.

The Clintons have surfed this psychotic cultural and generational wave into the White House.

The attempt has been made to understand Bill and Hillary Clinton, particularly Bill, in terms of classical neurosis from abusive childhoods. But much of what is seen in the Clinton generation has made that model obsolete, although many from that generation, including psychiatrists and psychologists, desperately hold on to it to relieve themselves of any personal responsibility.

The truth is, Bill and Hillary Clinton have not suffered a bit of inconvenience for nearly 40 years¾including, for Bill, the inconvenience of military service. By his freshman year in high school Bill found he could manipulate people with showy glibness and deception, and nobody would call him on it. A good memory for acting lines would carry him through easy courses in the most prestigious schools in the country without effort or necessity to learn seriously. From there, he went almost immediately to being the boy governor of a state, and on to the presidency. It was all done with a little empty talk on a level that could be found on any high school debate team.

Hillary has led a similar life of ease and is now being pushed to take a senate seat and run for the presidency in 2004 on a platform of angrily confronting a vast right-wing conspiracy¾ which essentially consists of making accusatory and sarcastic remarks at you and me through a TV screen to the delight of angry women, spoiled angry leftists, and angry minorities. It isn't a bad life for an untalented spoiled brat who, without the world of TV and alienated politics, would be lucky to hold a job as a waitress in a truck stop.

The problem with the both Clintons is that they were long ago licensed to think and act at primitive, immature, and irrational levels of functioning. Much of this was a self-conferred licensing by a generation which has continued, and which has been the root of most of the political, economic, and social problems in this country.

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Robert L. Kocher is the author of "The American Mind in Denial." He is an engineer working in the area of solid-state physics, and has done graduate study in clinical psychology. His email address is steiner@access.mountain.net.

from The Laissez Faire City Times, Vol 3, No 7, Feb. 15, 1999

[nutmeg]

Bill Clinton, at his most basic level, is a weak, soft man, afraid to put his precious self at risk, more given to talk than to action. He was weak and soft at a time when he needed to be strong and resolute...

My brother-in-law recently told me he had once shaken Bill Clinton's hand. This was years ago - he was at the White House in the early 90s for some work-related event. (Don't worry... my brother-in-law can't stand Clinton!) Anyway, he mentioned how Clinton had such a surprisingly WEAK and SOFT handshake for a man in such a powerful position. Hmmm...

[nutmeg]

ping

[hattend]

BTTT and bookmarked. Is there a link to the Africa Anger thread (If there was one)? I must have missed it.

[nutmeg]

ping

[AKA Elena]

So far this is "splendid", Mia T -- haven't got the time needed to read it in full -- but am again, so far, so-o-oo IMPRESSED -- and looking to have the time later today!

[Lazamataz]

YOO-HOO Washington Post / Bin Laden "in our crosshairs" 3X, but couldn't get kill order from clinton

Give it up. The Washington Post has no intention of reporting ANY news damaging to DemonCraps.