Curious About Freeper's Views Of Joyce Meyer

onedoug ^ | 12 DEC 2001 | onedoug

[onedoug]

"You got me plum-hypnotized," Elmer Gantry says to Sister Sharon Falconer in that film/novel.

Is that the case with me over Joyce Meyer?

She seems pretty good at down-home preachin'. And while not a classic beauty, she yet ministers out a fair amount sex appeal, along with the word.

(I think, ultimately, it's those Texas/Missouri eyes.)

I post this to philosophy since, as I know she has a fair amount of, at least internet detractors, it yet seems that her ability to project the Word, is as anchored in the integrity of faith as any other TV preacher I can recall.

...Except perhaps the late Bishop Fulton J Sheen.

In short though, Meyer lately fascinates me, and I'm curious what other Freepers may think. Particularly Evangelicals!

Thanks, and Merry Christmas to All!

[Prodigal Daughter]

I don't watch it myself, but Elmer Gantry was a good movie.

[Ward Smythe]

In short though, Meyer lately fascinates me, and I'm curious what other Freepers may think.

I'm not really qualified to address her doctrinal leanings -although I can't say I've disagreed with her. But her practical advice to Christians is outstanding.

One of my favorite things I've heard her say "How can you pray to have authority over demons if you don't have authority over the dirty dishes?"

[Teacup]

I like her. She's very practical and down to earth in her messages.

[KsSunflower]

I've been to numerous Joyce Meyer meetings. I think she is awesome. She is very honest and transparent about what she is and what she does, whether it is sharing about her own life or her ministry. You can take her or leave her, but you always know where she stands.

IMHO, I think her doctrine is extremely sound.

[Ward Smythe]

I think her doctrine is extremely sound.

I'm inclined to agree, but just haven't heard enough of her to comment.

[week 71]

One caveat, be careful with "word of faith" teachers. Name it claim theology can be destructive. A theology for spoiled Americans. Nevertheless she is funny and does have some accurate teaching. Personally I think she would do better as a motivational speaker.

[Lyndal]

I live about half a mile from her new $2 million offices. She says she paid cash for the building and land. It's something to see.

I do like to listen to her when I get the chance. Like others here, I think she is down to earth in her message.

[AlGone2001]

I like her a lot, although I rarely see her. My wife absolutely loves her.

I take hermore as a counselor than a "preacher." I like the way she says things pouint blank. I'm not into sugar coating the truth. A half truth is a whole lie.

[RepublicanJoe]

Joyce Meyer? She is OK but her message seems to be more based on psychology than on the Word of God.

Lately (growing up in the Word of Faith Camp - to which Meyers claims to belong) I have about had it with shallow and selfish Christianity - which Meyers espouses. That is.... the main battles she is attempting to help us overcome are: spilling coffee on ourselves and keeping out temper.... keeping calm when we awake with a bad hair day.... controlling our greed and selfishness with our mate... not chewing out a waitress when they mess our order up, and so on.

It just seems to me that those kind of things are trivial at the least. Most of them I learned to control from my Mother's instruction and my Dad's discipline. It really pales in comparison to our Christian brothers and sisters overseas who are tortured and killed for their religious freedoms. (Such as Christians in Afghanistan) I sometimes wonder how long Joyce would last in such an environment? Well maybe a few weeks if they did not deprive her of makeup or a hair dryer.....

Not trying to be hard on Joyce but just thinking out loud a bit and longing for the days when Christianity will be more about worshiping God and helping others than about not blowing up when we don't get our own way and living our life just to meet our own needs.

[a contender]

She is totally NEW AGE in her doctrine. She's biblically ignorant and those who follow her are the same. If you like these new age "motivational speakers" then more power to ya, but for bible truths, she's a blank.

[AlGone2001]

She is totally NEW AGE in her doctrine. She's biblically ignorant and those who follow her are the same. If you like these new age "motivational speakers" then more power to ya, but for bible truths, she's a blank.

Example to come?

[week 71]

and longing for the days when Christianity will be more about worshiping God and helping others than about not blowing up when we don't get our own way and living our life just to meet our own needs.

ditto to the above. We are so "soft" in this country and I fear most "Christians" will head for the door when times get rough.

[AlGone2001]

Lately (growing up in the Word of Faith Camp - to which Meyers claims to belong) I have about had it with shallow and selfish Christianity - which Meyers espouses. That is.... the main battles she is attempting to help us overcome are: spilling coffee on ourselves and keeping out temper.... keeping calm when we awake with a bad hair day.... controlling our greed and selfishness with our mate... not chewing out a waitress when they mess our order up, and so on.

It just seems to me that those kind of things are trivial at the least.

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I disagree strongly.  Christian character is an important goal to set.  I'm pretty sure that we were told to love one another?  If we learn to deal with the small things that bug us, how much better can we deal with those who are hard to love?

[onedoug]

The money's obviously better in religion.

I'd do it, but for worry that if I could get as consistenly fired-up, I'd come to worship God, or money more?

[week 71]

I'm by no means trying to divide the body, however speaking things into existence, which she advocates, comes from new age teachings about the power of the mind.

[woollyone]

Don't listen to her much, so I'm not one to comment on her doctrine.

Prefer Kay Arthur, as she does clear, inductive studies. Her words studies provide awesome insight.

[onedoug]

See? Now you're going deep on me. Though I definitely see your point. I wonder if we ever know our faith until it's tested. And then it will always be to various degrees. And for some it will come over and over again.

Meyer projects this sense of "Americana" perhaps, more effectively than most I've seen in awhile. A kinda struttin' cowgirl, as it were, that sells her well too.

[onedoug]

Your daily dose, bump.

[shield]

At least she's teaching/preaching more than the same ole' same ole'. I find that 99% of the pulpit group still teach the milk of the word. They've never moved on to the meat. Most think they are teaching the meat, but they aren't. Blind shepherds continuing to blind the sheep.

I find Joyce a breath of fresh air. She's not into the meat yet, but she is dealing with lots of truth. Instead of putting satan/devil/evil one on the throne like most christians have been taught to do. She lets folks know that most times its self that made you do it, and not the satan/devil/evil one. At least it's a start. One day she'll step out and away from the milk pulpit group. She seems to be the right type to, not a herd type.